Gen Con 2017 New Releases

[sadlerbw]

Just got back from what's up with CGL? Event. Pardon any mistakes as I'm trying to dump this out fast. I'm tired! I recorded the whole thing and am uploading to YouTube now. Will post a link if it finishes before I pass out.

HG lawsuit isn't going to affect product releases. They have already pretty much made any adjustments they feel necessary to upcoming stuff that could have been affected. Nothing is being delayed or pushed back because of it

Combat manuals: bottom line, they were a showcase of what CGL can do, but they didn't sell well enough. Can't keep going with the same format, but not dead. Trying to rework so that the business case makes sense.

ilClan: yes, still happening. Still on the front burner...of things that aren't dragonfire. (Running gag from the CGL staff...answer every question with 'dragonfire ') Brent felt it needed a more epic, cinematic feel. Felt too stale or too much like a report too him. That is me paraphrasing, not his exact words.

More fiction in the works. The room had a fairly equal number of folks who liked anthologies and folks who liked novels. Who knows if that is representative of the feeling outside that room.

Brent and Ray were super nice and stayed for almost an hour after the event to answer more BT questions. They made an honest effort to respond to everything that was asked. These guys care about the game world, and it showed.

I can't recall everything they said, but some of the interesting bits:

Those maps with the box sets on display? Total mockups. They took the art from the AS introductory station play mats and threw a hex grid on them. NOT what will be in the box. They are very much at work on maps . Can't say what form they will take yet though.

They want to try to work the HBS campaign plot into canon if they can. HBS hasn't told them what it is though, so they can't say if it will work!

Bonus question from Brent: industrial mods with ICE engines...would you use them if you could get two or three for the cost of an urbanmech? Corollary: why is the urbie so popular when other.junk mechs aren't. Honestly, this deserves its own thread.

Wolverines are NOT the ilClan.

[GRUD]

Looking at the maps, here is what I would like but will not happen.

The area on the maps in the pictures that say "water" or "woods"

Ray Arrastia told me tonight (after the "What's Up With CGL?" Seminar) that we're looking at a MINIMUM of 6 months before we see the box sets. A few months after that, we can Possibly see the Revised Classics in Metal from IWM, pending THEIR schedule.   O0

[Sartris]

when they said coming in the next year or so, I was assuming new boxes would be on at least the upper half of that scale. no surprise there

[sadlerbw]

Video up:

https://youtu.be/pw9P5ji0ous

Oh, and GRUD, I remember hearing that question, but I can't put a face to who asked it! Were you sitting sort of behind and to the right of Ray?

[Azakael]

Combat manuals: bottom line, they were a showcase of what CGL can do, but they didn't sell well enough. Can't keep going with the same format, but not dead. Trying to rework so that the business case makes sense.

Understandable, but completely depressing nevertheless.

[GRUD]

Video up:

https://youtu.be/pw9P5ji0ous

Oh, and GRUD, I remember hearing that question, but I can't put a face to who asked it! Were you sitting sort of behind and to the right of Ray?

I'm the guy that tapped you on the shoulder when your "Low Battery" warning popped up.  ;D

[StoneRhino]

I think the beginners box set is an excellent idea. Should rope in some fresh meat, er... new players.

Fresh meat was correct. Hopefully fresh meat willing to learn to play beyond the introbox. There seems to be a lot of people out there that cannot handle more then a 10page booklet of rules. :o

[ijewett]

Ah well maybe next year there will be something Battletech for me to spend money on.

[Sharpnel]

... and people still wouldn't stop complaining about the price... I'm not going to hold my breath that this will be any different, regardless of any logical arguments put forth.  :(

This is the Internet. Logic does not exist here.

[RotS fan]

I have a question it seems they didn't answer in the Q&A. After ilClan will we get frequent (insert new Era name gere) products? I understand why ilClan is taking so long, but I hope it is a one time waiting deal

[Adrian Gideon]

Understandable, but completely depressing nevertheless.

Think you're depressed?

[I am Belch II]

So upset that I missed the "What's up with Catalyst"

Wish they had the posters this year. Need some Battletech posters to fill in my new home Bunker/Game room!

[Mindwiper]

only 3 pages Gencon Thread so far. I miss the times where Blakists were reported at Gencon tearing out pages from Dawn of the Jihad screaming of blasphemy and lies...

How many years won't we have an Introbox until the new one comes out? 2-3 years?

Herbs: "What could gave been" on fb is mote interesting than this so far.

[RABIDFOX50]

 [drool]

[Pat Payne]

Ray Arrastia told me tonight (after the "What's Up With CGL?" Seminar) that we're looking at a MINIMUM of 6 months before we see the box sets.

OK, so not gonna make it for Christmas gifts, but a possibility of Valentine's gifts for a BattleTech-playing significant other, then.

[Pat Payne]

Understandable, but completely depressing nevertheless.

However, the door isn't completely closed. IINM, reading between the lines, it looks like the remaining books are on life support and CGL is doing all it can to save the patient  ;D

[ANS Kamas P81]

What're the chances we'll see the new minis duplicated in metal from IWM?

[Mindwiper]

I got both Combat Manuals and for me they were not meat or fish. They had very nice background and rules for the units, but without even victory conditions for the missions and pages after pages of list with mechs they gave me the feeling that a newbie would open them and finally put them into the shelve again, cause they looked like far away from the promise of a 'fast paced Alpha Strike' Battletech game. There was too much CBT and MW inside and not enough Tabletop content like a good (sry to say that) Space Marine Codex. AS needs to make a real and final step into a modern, easy to play tabletop game. Then, only then it will stand a chance on the market. Wall of text and lists of factors, mech versions etc. are contra productive.

Oh and I'm not sure if it wouldn't have been wiser to make the 2mini version of the new box CBT and the 8 mini version AS related with cardstock buildings and/or a cardstock dropship. Appealing to new players who live in the 21st century and not in 1994.

[pheonixstorm]

There are far more than 3 pages of GenCon stuff... it is just split between 3 different topics. This, another gencon thread, and the new releases thread.

[Colt Ward]

only 3 pages Gencon Thread so far. I miss the times where Blakists were reported at Gencon tearing out pages from Dawn of the Jihad screaming of blasphemy and lies...

How many years won't we have an Introbox until the new one comes out? 2-3 years?

So if you look at the new release topic, where most of the pictures and discussion for GenCon has taken place you would see a answer to that question and more discussion of the event.  No offense to the OP, but this was already under discussion on that thread and had been discussed in anticipation before this thread was started.

[Mindwiper]

ah, so for news and interesting discussions concerning Gencon we go to the spam, troll and general "upping up my postcount" thread, quineg? lol
been there during the last two days and wouldn't believe it'the main thread for GC2017, so i mentioned it here

[Weirdo]

ah, so for news and interesting discussions concerning Gencon we go to the spam, troll and general "upping up my postcount" thread, quineg? lol
been there during the last two days and wouldn't believe it'the main thread for GC2017, so i mentioned it here

Welcome to the Battletech forums. :)

[pheonixstorm]

ah, so for news and interesting discussions concerning Gencon we go to the spam, troll and general "upping up my postcount" thread, quineg? lol
been there during the last two days and wouldn't believe it'the main thread for GC2017, so i mentioned it here

No, people tend to be lazy and not do a very good job searching for a related thread. It happens all over the internet.

[Sartris]

people have a habit of not behaving how you want them to. complaining never helps.

if complaining worked, there would be 500 different box sets at gen con and adrian would come free with every box to mark off your record sheets for you.

[Adrian Gideon]

Ok, I laughed.

[pheonixstorm]

if complaining worked, there would be 500 different box sets at gen con and adrian would come free with every box to mark off your record sheets for you.

No no no... I demand catgirls!

[Mech42ace]

No no no... I demand catgirls!

I Second that!

[Tyler Jorgensson]

You can have Adrian and the Catgirls : I'll be having those Clan-tech Box Sets thank you very much.


Told my friend to take some of my money and throw it at the Battletech booth: I really wanna see what he comes back with.


I hate my job and lack of vacation time :(

[ANS Kamas P81]

You can have Adrian and the Catgirls : I'll be having those Clan-tech Box Sets thank you very much.

Sorry, there was a mixup in your order.  We're sending you Clanner Adrian Catboy in a box instead.

[Dark Jackal]

Space Marine Codex

Well, Games Workshop has a nasty habit of making you rebuy content every few years with a new edition (now in 60 dollar hardback instead of a cheaper softback version ... oh and isn't the main rule book) on top of over priced plastic minis. I remember a plastic boxed set of 10 Tactical Marines around the time of Dawn of War 1 came out to be 25 dollars. Those same 10 Tactical Space Muh-rines are now 40 bucks. Also, GamesWorkshop is being sued for 62.5 million dollars. Spiky Bits: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jx__jrFealI

Around 9 minutes in he gets into some information on how much certain things cost to produce. Also, they say the 5 man Terminator squad was based on 5 man Elemental squad.

Just meant to elaborate on GW practices.

(Corrected US Price.)