Author Topic: Raven Alliance: Enemy Of Your Enemy (And Still Your Enemy!) (Read 178669 times)

Vition2 · « **Reply #1410 on:** 08 May 2016, 08:56:15 »

So am I, but I think the Deimos works pretty well as our assault, a good heavy on the other hand could complement it quite well, maybe something akin to the Nova Cat or Flamberge. But then I'd want a medium and light omni as well... and then people start saying I'm wishing too much. :D

Nightgaun7 · « **Reply #1411 on:** 08 May 2016, 09:12:27 »

Quote from: Elcor05 on 08 May 2016, 08:21:24

Sorry Omni. To replace old Kingfishers, Warhawks, Daishis, etc. I'm just greedy.

I feel like I'm missing something - the Deimos is an Omni assault...

Quote from: Vition2 on 08 May 2016, 08:56:15

So am I, but I think the Deimos works pretty well as our assault

Plus the Omen is dead sexy.

Elcor05 · « **Reply #1412 on:** 08 May 2016, 14:40:44 »

I feel like it's more of a big long range 'mech than a bruiser. And maybe thats just the Prime and my bias.

Definitely agreed on new omni's though. Won't happen. Id love an upgrade of the Bashkir and Sabutai, and i think thats realistic.

Maingunnery · « **Reply #1413 on:** 08 May 2016, 15:02:37 »

I would have liked an 4/6 assault Omni with FerroLam (Warhawk MkII). Yes, I know I am a bit greedy.

Foxx Ital · « **Reply #1414 on:** 12 May 2016, 21:36:42 »

The Deimos is tasty and i'll trade you karhus for them gladly O0 the NTNU Deimos is especially brutal.

Fatebringer · « **Reply #1415 on:** 19 August 2016, 14:30:25 »

You're avatar is very disturbing. Been a while since I was on last. New Job and all. Still love the game and am very much rooting for Raven Alliance :)

marauder648 · « **Reply #1416 on:** 20 August 2016, 16:30:10 »

Quote from: Foxx Ital on 12 May 2016, 21:36:42

The Deimos is tasty and i'll trade you karhus for them gladly O0 the NTNU Deimos is especially brutal.

That's the Deimos E isn't it?

St.George · « **Reply #1417 on:** 22 August 2016, 05:30:12 »

I believe so,,,

marauder648 · « **Reply #1418 on:** 22 August 2016, 06:02:11 »

Quote from: St.George on 22 August 2016, 05:30:12

I believe so,,,

It looks like a horror.

2 x LPLs, 2 x ER Meds, 1 x ER PPC 1 x ER PPC + 4 x SSRM-4's all with a tarcom, a radical heat sink system, Masc AND supercharger, I mean WAT!? Sure its BC is obscene but dear lord, that things a Mech deletion service. Oh and its got an AMS.

Foxx Ital · « **Reply #1419 on:** 22 August 2016, 14:21:42 »

Yeah, shes a blast to pilot

St.George · « **Reply #1420 on:** 22 August 2016, 14:54:45 »

I'd agree,,,ain't to shabby.

Rainbow 6 · « **Reply #1421 on:** 14 September 2016, 06:40:58 »

Hi, quick question, what infantry transport vehicles do we have access to post jihad?

Jaim Magnus · « **Reply #1422 on:** 14 September 2016, 08:10:48 »

Depends on the exact timeframe, some of these are earlier, some later. Clan Maxim, standard APCs from TRO3039 (thanks to the OA), heavy hover and heavy wheeled APC (3060), Anhur, Karnov, Indra, and I suppose you could retrofit the Bishop VTOL in 3145. Maybe a scattering of Svantovit.

But I'm no infantry expert, so anyone else, feel free to chime in.

Tai Dai Cultist · « **Reply #1423 on:** 14 September 2016, 08:59:49 »

Quote from: Rainbow 6 on 14 September 2016, 06:40:58

Hi, quick question, what infantry transport vehicles do we have access to post jihad?

The MUL can answer this and many other mysteries of the universe!

Rainbow 6 · « **Reply #1424 on:** 14 September 2016, 09:48:11 »

Quote from: Tai Dai Cultist on 14 September 2016, 08:59:49

The MUL can answer this and many other mysteries of the universe!

Yes, weirdly the MUL is blocked in work but the forums aren't :-[

Tai Dai Cultist · « **Reply #1425 on:** 14 September 2016, 09:55:21 »

Quote from: Rainbow 6 on 14 September 2016, 09:48:11

Yes, weirdly the MUL is blocked in work but the forums aren't :-[

A teaser for when you get home then:

There is the junk that comes with the OA militia (heavy APCs and such)
The Clan Maxim is actually not on the list (not sure why... MUL team just decided there wasn't enough of them in the RA to qualify as "available" post Jihad, I guess)
OTOH the R-10 is on the list, beginning in the late republic period. 12 tons of internal transport capability, plus it's an an omni vehicle so another point of elementals outside!

Demongirl · « **Reply #1426 on:** 13 October 2016, 22:50:31 »

*pokes the thread*

Anyone still around?

Jaim Magnus · « **Reply #1427 on:** 14 October 2016, 07:17:48 »

Yep. Been very little of a Raven-y persuasion to discuss lately.

marauder648 · « **Reply #1428 on:** 14 October 2016, 07:52:34 »

The Raven's 'S Teams' what are they? Are they just Mech's outfitted for space work or is it some kind of elite group thing?

Jaim Magnus · « **Reply #1429 on:** 14 October 2016, 08:12:23 »

We don't have that much information. Like the R-teams, they seem to be a Star in size, combining battle suits and mechs. All optimized for space operations.

It would require specialized training, so my take would be that they're an elite unit, only rolled out when there's a need for them.

Vition2 · « **Reply #1430 on:** 14 October 2016, 08:50:08 »

I also get the impression that they are part of the Raven touman in the same way the Raven Watch and garrison forces are, they are technically part of the touman, but don't show up on TO&Es for the touman proper. But that's just an impression, and may very well be wrong.

Demongirl · « **Reply #1431 on:** 14 October 2016, 14:36:44 »

On a somewhat Raveny note, I've been playin a KDK-3 in MWO lately and wreaking havoc in it...

1038 damage
1109 damage
1360 damage
1514 damage

Maingunnery · « **Reply #1432 on:** 14 October 2016, 14:51:21 »

I wish that MWO would sell packs for specific Clans, an CSR Cluster Pack would be great.

Demongirl · « **Reply #1433 on:** 14 October 2016, 17:45:51 »

OMGESS, I would *LOVE* to see CSR stuff in-game!

marauder648 · « **Reply #1434 on:** 15 October 2016, 07:35:28 »

Quote from: Jaim Magnus on 14 October 2016, 08:12:23

We don't have that much information. Like the R-teams, they seem to be a Star in size, combining battle suits and mechs. All optimized for space operations.

It would require specialized training, so my take would be that they're an elite unit, only rolled out when there's a need for them.

Ahh so more like a special forces detachment kind of thing, not just Mechwarriors who are trained for space combat but who are dedicated towards that goal and role.

Jaim Magnus · « **Reply #1435 on:** 18 October 2016, 10:58:22 »

So, trothkin. Space 'Mechs... useful niche unit, or boondoggle?

Discuss.

Vition2 · « **Reply #1436 on:** 18 October 2016, 13:03:10 »

I consider Space 'Mechs to fill a very very small niche, one so small that spending resources on filling it verges on a boondoggle.

The role I feel they fill better than other units is salvage operations. Where a more powerful unit is needed to maneuver scraps too large for battle armor to easily move and in spaces too small for small craft to operate. (and even then, it's possible to create small and powerful small craft that could function similarly)

They don't fit a suitable defensive or offensive role, Aerospace fighters fit that role dramatically better. Their use in the defense and assault of space stations can be used to target or defend weapons ports without counter fire, but their larger silhouettes compared to battle armor make them easier targets by ASF to shoot off the hull. And they can only function inside in areas that were specifically built to handle 'mech sized units or larger, and again, battle armor will have an edge when it comes to taking or defending areas of space stations. If they are actually spaceborne, then they are sitting ducks for ASF which can dictate both range and terms.

Overall, I kind of wish they were never made, their role is too niche and the resources being spent on turning battlemechs into spacemechs would have been better used to make equivalent industrialmechs or purpose-built small craft.

snewsom2997 · « **Reply #1437 on:** 18 October 2016, 14:27:54 »

Since we only have a sense of scale for all but the largest space stations and orbital facilities, Camalot Command, Gabriel, Lum, Boeing Megaplex.

They may not be so much of a niche unit. You aren't going to fly ASF's into Cammalot Command or Gabriel. Your going to send Battle Armor and Space Troops, I suspect the spaces are big enough for mechs but not big enough to fly down, except for the Yard slips proper.

Might make sense to have some mechs to support your BA and Space Troopers. I think Orbital Facilities are more common than fluff says. Maybe not many CMO26 sized facilities, but easily 1,2 and even 3 km Facilities. Spreading over dozens of levels, for many, many Square miles of Facility to secure, with mech sized spaces and 0g.

Maingunnery · « **Reply #1438 on:** 18 October 2016, 14:32:02 »

Quote from: Jaim Magnus on 18 October 2016, 10:58:22

So, trothkin. Space 'Mechs... useful niche unit, or boondoggle?

Discuss.

Soo niche, they should have been Omnimech loadouts.

jimdigris · « **Reply #1439 on:** 18 October 2016, 15:31:45 »

Niche. Aerospace fighters can do the same job more effectively.