Chuikov Heavy tank...it's a Zhukov retread

[tomaddamz]

Here is what I think would solve the Zhukov most major faults 1). the lack of depth in the ammo bin, and 2).  The hull mounted SRM-6.  I present the Chuikov heavy tank.

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Chuikov (Intro) Tank
IS Introductory Box Set
75 tons 
BV: 1,024
Cost: 2,008,563 C-bills

Movement: 3/5 (Tracked)
Engine: 225 ICE

Internal: 40
Armor: 176
                     Internal    Armor
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Front                       8       44
Right                       8       32
Left                        8       32
Rear                        8       24
Turret                      8       44

Weapon                         Loc  Heat
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AC/10                           TU     3
LRM 20                          TU     6
SRM 6                           TU     4

Ammo                           Loc Shots
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AC/10 Ammo                      BD    10
AC/10 Ammo                      BD    10
LRM 20 Ammo                     BD     6
LRM 20 Ammo                     BD     6
SRM 6 Ammo                      BD    15
This is as straight outta 3025 upgrade other than the minor cost to upgrade and feed (as LRM ammo is costly), it also requires a minor overhaul to the mini. 

The modernizirovana version

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Chuikov (modernizirovana) Tank
IS advanced
75 tons 
BV: 1,086
Cost: 2,068,938 C-bills

Movement: 3/5 (Tracked)
Engine: 225 ICE

Internal: 40
Armor: 176
                     Internal    Armor
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Front                       8       44
Right                       8       32
Left                        8       32
Rear                        8       24
Turret                      8       44

Weapon                         Loc  Heat
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Ultra AC/10                     TU     4
Enhanced LRM 15                 TU     5
SRM 4                           TU     3

Ammo                           Loc Shots
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Ultra AC/10 Ammo                BD    10
Ultra AC/10 Ammo                BD    10
Enhanced LRM 15 Ammo            BD     8
Enhanced LRM 15 Ammo            BD     8
SRM 4 Ammo                      BD    25
SRM 4 Inferno Ammo              BD    25
Improvements to both ranged firepower, range minimums, and anti-infantry firepower upgrades.  While the throw weight of the NLRM-15 is 75% of the old LRM-20, the ammo endurance is improved as well as the shorter minimum range allows this system to be more profitably used when engaged up close.  The SRM-4 replaces the SRM-6 to maintain it's location in the turret, and with the 2nd ton of ammunition gives the tank some much needed anti-infantry firepower, however in some instances this bin has been reconfigured to give more capability to the NLRM system for specialized munitions.  Some may criticize the choice of the Ultra-10 system, the Rapid-Fire capability is only meant to be used in emergency situations where unless drastic and immediate action does not take place, may result in the loss of the vehicle.

(that and the LBX-10 is just way too easy here, plus it's slightly cheaper)

[Cryhavok101]

What about a modernized version that replaces both missile launchers with a bunch of MMLs? You could keep the number of LRM missiles, while bringing the volume of SRMs up to match it.

[tomaddamz]

Gapping at 4-5 hexes with the LRM minimum and medium range for the SRM, that and I haven't really worked with the NLRM that much.  Actually for a modernization of the intro Chuikov, a pair of MML-9 would work nicely and give me a ton for Anti-Infantry firepower. ( either Flechette AC ammo or Inferno SRMs, could do my T-72 Loadout*).  If I were to do the heavier MML load, I'd personally want some Life Ending Firepower® along the lines of a Gauss Rifle.


*T-72 Loadout----T-72 loadout is an AC-10 loadout consisting of 10 normal AC-10 rounds, 10 Flechette rounds and 5 Precision rounds (kinda like the standard loadout of the T-72M1 Split between OF-26 HE, and BK-18M HEAT and BM-32 APFSDS, with a potential smattering of 9M119M Svir ATGM. 

[worktroll]

Could I convince you to go ER or Heavy Flamer instead of the SRM-4? Otherwise I like.

And I'm glad you kept the 3/5 movement curve :)

[tomaddamz]

Could I convince you to go ER or Heavy Flamer instead of the SRM-4? Otherwise I like.

And I'm glad you kept the 3/5 movement curve :)

For the ER Flamer it would require replacing the engine, That and pulling the SRM-4 gives me a lot of mass to play with, Hmmmm...

As for the Heavy Flamer, while the damage against infantry is much higher, don't need a new engine, PBIs do get closer, but they do get Thoroughly Dead®.  Plus you may actually soft kill a 'Mech' by shutting it down if it goes to contact...You Sir, have given me something to think about.

[worktroll]

SRM-2, and standard flamer?

(Or just cover the bow in A-pods ;) )

[CrazyGrasshopper]

Non-twin-cannon heresy? :)

Why not swap ICE for a Fuel Cell on the original Zhukov for the upgrade? Or keeping costs as low as possible was the intent?

[tomaddamz]

Could I convince you to go ER or Heavy Flamer instead of the SRM-4? Otherwise I like.

And I'm glad you kept the 3/5 movement curve :)

Ok, here's the Heavy Flamer Model, fairly straightforward, thinks a little differently...Yet I find myself liking it.  It has better Alpha Damage when it's hits Infantry/Battlearmor which is a plus, Not tempted to hang around to bust off ammo, so I'lll hopefully retreat before I get Knocked out..I really appreciate the Suggestion for the Heavy Flamer.

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Chuikov M2B2 (modernizirovana) Tank
IS advanced
75 tons 
BV: 1,069
Cost: 1,935,938 C-bills

Movement: 3/5 (Tracked)
Engine: 225 ICE

Internal: 40
Armor: 176
                     Internal    Armor
--------------------------------------
Front                       8       44
Right                       8       32
Left                        8       32
Rear                        8       24
Turret                      8       44

Weapon                         Loc  Heat
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Ultra AC/10                     TU     4
Enhanced LRM 15                 TU     5
Heavy Flamer                    TU     5
Heavy Flamer                    TU     5

Ammo                           Loc Shots
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Ultra AC/10 Ammo                BD    10
Ultra AC/10 Ammo                BD    10
Enhanced LRM 15 Ammo            BD     8
Enhanced LRM 15 Ammo            BD     8
Heavy Flamer Ammo               BD    10

I'm still trying to get my head around the ER Flamer mod, not in love with it yet, still beating on the options

[tomaddamz]

Non-twin-cannon heresy? :)

Why not swap ICE for a Fuel Cell on the original Zhukov for the upgrade? Or keeping costs as low as possible was the intent?

You outta see what i can do with a Schreck, and no, not the fusion one...