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Design Review Board - BlackJack IIC
« on: 08 March 2017, 18:47:13 »
Up for general consideration, thoughts, and design review - a Clan IIC version of the venerable BlackJack

BlackJack IIC

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Blackjack IIC
Clan Medium Battlemech (Second-Line)
55 tons 
BV: 1,455
Cost: 10,082,492 C-bills

Movement: 5/8
Engine: 275 XL
Heat Sinks: 10 [20]
Gyro: Standard Gyro

Internal: 91 (Endo-Steel)
Armor: 153/185 (Ferro-Fibrous)
                     Internal    Armor
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Center Torso               18       24
Center Torso (rear)                  6
Right Torso                13       20
Right Torso (rear)                   5
Left Torso                 13       20
Left Torso (rear)                    5
Right Arm                   9       15
Left Arm                    9       15
Right Leg                  13       17
Left Leg                   13       17

Weapon                         Loc  Heat
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Ultra AC/2                      RA     1
Ultra AC/2                      RA     1
Ultra AC/2                      LA     1
Ultra AC/2                      LA     1
ER Medium Laser                 LT     5
Small Pulse Laser               RT     2
Small Pulse Laser               RT     2

Ammo                           Loc Shots
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Ultra AC/2 Ammo                 RT    45
Ultra AC/2 Ammo                 LT    45

Equipment                      Loc
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Targeting Computer              LT
CASE                            RT
CASE                            LT
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Re: Design Review Board - BlackJack IIC
« Reply #1 on: 08 March 2017, 22:27:12 »
Nice work!  That second line mech will be a surprise to any would be raiders.

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Re: Design Review Board - BlackJack IIC
« Reply #2 on: 08 March 2017, 23:16:32 »
Seems like a poor mans version of the Gyrfalcon.  Jump jets were largely a staple on the Blackjack and in this case I think the lack of them detracts from the overall benefits gained in range from Clan Ultras.

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Re: Design Review Board - BlackJack IIC
« Reply #3 on: 09 March 2017, 03:23:58 »
Behold, the god of painfully frustrating irritation!

I like it.
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Re: Design Review Board - BlackJack IIC
« Reply #4 on: 09 March 2017, 06:37:58 »
Nice . How well has it been playtested ? Do you envision it paired with something like a Awesome 9 Q ?

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Re: Design Review Board - BlackJack IIC
« Reply #5 on: 09 March 2017, 10:31:24 »
For AA work it'd be great.  Against  another 'mech....it's more of a nuisance. Even second line warriors need/deserve something that can pack a punch.  You've got 10 double heat sinks...use them!  Drop a pair of the U-AC2's for an ERPPC and add some jump capability and maybe swap the last two AC's for U-AC5's if they'll fit.
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Re: Design Review Board - BlackJack IIC
« Reply #6 on: 09 March 2017, 13:30:31 »
Kind of like the Kraken Standard and Rifleman IIC 2, then? Because both of those boat Ultra AC/2s.

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Re: Design Review Board - BlackJack IIC
« Reply #7 on: 09 March 2017, 13:42:41 »
For AA work it'd be great.  Against  another 'mech....it's more of a nuisance. Even second line warriors need/deserve something that can pack a punch.  You've got 10 double heat sinks...use them!  Drop a pair of the U-AC2's for an ERPPC and add some jump capability and maybe swap the last two AC's for U-AC5's if they'll fit.
My 0.02$

hmm
or ER Large Lazers, less tonnage, range better matches the ACs,
and with dropping one ton of ammo leaves you 3 tons for more sinks
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Re: Design Review Board - BlackJack IIC
« Reply #8 on: 09 March 2017, 13:46:41 »
Rather expensive... Why not maximize the flak capability instead?

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Blackjack II C

Mass: 55 tons
Tech Base: Clan
Chassis Config: Biped
Rules Level: Tournament Legal
Era: Clan Invasion
Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-X-D-A
Production Year: 3070
Cost: 5 688 758 C-Bills
Battle Value: 1 506

Chassis: Unknown Endo-Steel
Power Plant: Unknown 220 Fusion Engine
Walking Speed: 43,2 km/h
Maximum Speed: 64,8 km/h
Jump Jets: Unknown
    Jump Capacity: 120 meters
Armor: Unknown Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
    3  ER Medium Lasers
    4  LB 2-X ACs
Manufacturer: Unknown
    Primary Factory: Unknown
Communications System: Unknown
Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
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Internal Structure: Endo-Steel                    91 points                3,00
    Internal Locations: 7 LT
Engine:             Fusion Engine                220                      10,00
    Walking MP: 4
    Running MP: 6
    Jumping MP: 4 Standard
    Jump Jet Locations: 2 CT, 1 LT, 1 RT                                   2,00
Heat Sinks:         Double Heat Sink             10(20)                    0,00
    Heat Sink Locations: 1 LL, 1 RL
Gyro:               Standard                                               3,00
Cockpit:            Standard                                               3,00
    Actuators:      L: SH+UA    R: SH+UA
Armor:              Ferro-Fibrous                AV - 172                  9,00
    Armor Locations: 7 RT
    CASE Locations: LT, RT                                                 0,00

                                                      Internal       Armor     
                                                      Structure      Factor     
                                                Head     3            9         
                                        Center Torso     18           27       
                                 Center Torso (rear)                  8         
                                           L/R Torso     13           20       
                                    L/R Torso (rear)                  6         
                                             L/R Arm     9            18       
                                             L/R Leg     13           20       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat    Critical    Mass 
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ER Medium Laser                              HD        5         1         1,00
2 LB 2-X ACs                                 RA        2         6        10,00
ER Medium Laser                              RA        5         1         1,00
2 LB 2-X ACs                                 LA        2         6        10,00
ER Medium Laser                              LA        5         1         1,00
@LB 2-X (Slug) (45)                          RT        -         1         1,00
@LB 2-X (Cluster) (45)                       LT        -         1         1,00
                                            Free Critical Slots: 12

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      6    Points: 15
4j         3       3       1       0      2     0   Structure:  5
Special Abilities: CASE, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA

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Re: Design Review Board - BlackJack IIC
« Reply #9 on: 09 March 2017, 17:10:34 »
hmm
or ER Large Lazers, less tonnage, range better matches the ACs,
and with dropping one ton of ammo leaves you 3 tons for more sinks

Though of that....but it felt a lot like a Rifleman then.  Not necessarily a bad thing. 
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Re: Design Review Board - BlackJack IIC
« Reply #10 on: 09 March 2017, 17:16:51 »
or mix with SKs version above LB2s plus ER Larges
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Re: Design Review Board - BlackJack IIC
« Reply #11 on: 09 March 2017, 18:33:48 »
If you're mounting ERLLs you should mount a TC, and then LB-X guns aren't a good choice...

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Re: Design Review Board - BlackJack IIC
« Reply #12 on: 14 March 2017, 20:47:22 »
I know that this idea would not match the artwork, but I think that a cool variant of your design would swap the four Ultra AC/2s for two Rotary AC/2s with CASE II and plenty of ammo.

 

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