Poll

If this were a canon design, which version is more likey to be fielded by a Star League Army?

The 25 ton trailer with the self contained ammo and machine guns for defense
2 (33.3%)
The 20 ton trailer that relies on a seperate source of ammo and has no defense.
4 (66.7%)

Total Members Voted: 6

Voting closed: 01 November 2011, 16:21:37

Author Topic: J-27 Thumper Trailer - Poll Added  (Read 8338 times)

Wraithcannon

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J-27 Thumper Trailer - Poll Added
« on: 10 October 2011, 00:16:41 »
This is to represent the trailer Thumper artillery that comes with the J-27 ammo carrier miniature.

It has just enough armor to take one shot from a battlemech before it's forced to surrender, has some anti infantry weapons to guard it, and carries enough ammo for a single engagement before being re-attached to the J-27 for reload and redeployment.

Type/Model:    J-27 Towed Thumper Trailer
Mass:          25 tons

Equipment:                                         Items    Mass
Int. Struct.:  15 pts Standard                   0        2.50
Engine:        None                                  0         .00
    Cruise MP: None. BV based on 0 MP
Heat Sinks:      0 Single                          0         .00
Crew: 2 Members                                   0         .00
Turret Equipment:                                   0       2.00
Armor Factor:   48 pts Standard               0        3.00

                                    Internal    Armor
                                   Structure   Value
   Front:                              3         10
   Left / Right Sides:             3      10/10
   Rear:                               3         10
   Turret:                             3          8

Weapons and Equipment    Loc  Heat  Ammo   Items    Mass
--------------------------------------------------------
1 Thumper Artillery         Turret   0      20         2        16.00
2 Machine Guns              Turret   0     100         3        1.50
1 Trailer Hitch                 Front                         1        .00
--------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                                    0                   6       25.00
Items & Tons Left:                                           4         .00

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:        300,938 C-Bills
Battle Value:      62
Cost per BV:       4,853.83
Weapon Value:      27 / 27 (Ratio = .44 / .44)
Damage Factors:    SRDmg = 6;  MRDmg = 5;  LRDmg = 5
BattleForce2:      MP: 0J,  Armor/Structure: 0 / 2
                   Damage PB/M/L: 1/-/1,  Overheat: 0
                   Class: GL;  Point Value: 1
                   Specials: artT, mof
« Last Edit: 18 October 2011, 16:22:41 by Wraithcannon »
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Khymerion

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Re: J-27 Thumper Trailer
« Reply #1 on: 10 October 2011, 08:31:00 »
Fun little trailer.

If you have a nice tractor for it, it could be the end of a chain, much like the old Long Tom.  Perhaps leave an ammo trailer hitched up to it so it can fire longer.
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Re: J-27 Thumper Trailer
« Reply #2 on: 10 October 2011, 09:44:41 »
My thoughts exactly.

The J-27 could leave the ammo trailer with it for an additional 8 tons of firepower, or if it was in a particularly dicey area that might be overrun, the tractor itself could stay with it and provide it's cargo bay of 3 tons to feed the breach on the cannon, as well as provide alternative ammo loads, such as smoke, fletchette, or cluster, and getting the hell out of dodge when things get messy.

http://www.camospecs.com/images/schemes/3_Dak-TaurianJ-27.jpg

http://www.camospecs.com/images/schemes/28_Camo_J27.JPG

I made another version, that was scaled down to 20 tons, with no machine guns, no ammo(which would require the ammo trailer or the J-27 to remain with it), and only a whisper of armor, but this version seemed more logical for as minimal a mix of offense and defense as seemed prudent.

Nevertheless, here it is as well for your appraisal;

Type/Model:    J-27 Towed Thumper Trailer
Mass:          20 tons

Equipment:                                            Items    Mass
Int. Struct.:  10 pts Standard                     0         2.00
Engine:        None                                    0          .00
    Cruise MP: None. BV based on 0 MP
Heat Sinks:      0 Single                            0          .00
Crew: 2 Members                                     0         .00
Turret Equipment:                                     0        1.50
Armor Factor:   24 pts Standard                 0        1.50

                                  Internal    Armor
                                 Structure   Value
   Front:                           2           5
   Left / Right Sides:          2         5/5
   Rear:                            2           5
   Turret:                          2           4
 
Weapons and Equipment    Loc  Heat  Ammo   Items    Mass
--------------------------------------------------------
1 Thumper Artillery         Turret   0                   1     15.00
1 Trailer Hitch                  Front                        1       .00
--------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                                    0                   2     20.00
Items & Tons Left:                                           7       .00

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:        253,000 C-Bills
Battle Value:      38
Cost per BV:       6,657.89
Weapon Value:      13 / 13 (Ratio = .34 / .34)
Damage Factors:    SRDmg = 5;  MRDmg = 5;  LRDmg = 5
BattleForce2:      MP: 0J,  Armor/Structure: 0 / 1
                   Damage PB/M/L: -/-/-,  Overheat: 0
                   Class: GL;  Point Value: 0
                   Specials: artT, mof
« Last Edit: 17 October 2011, 18:35:58 by Wraithcannon »
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Re: J-27 Thumper Trailer
« Reply #3 on: 16 October 2011, 10:41:30 »
This definitely is one I would be more than willing to make use of from one day to the next in support of lighter formations.
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Re: J-27 Thumper Trailer - Poll Added
« Reply #4 on: 18 October 2011, 16:28:44 »
That is a good point, so what do people think?

If this were an actual canon design that was to be pulled around by a J-27 Ammo Carrier, which version best fits what the Star League would have purchased in universe?

Would the Star League field the heavier, armored design that can take care of itself using it's back up guns?

Or would they be more likely to commision the lighter trailer that requires a seperate ammo trailer and has nothing to protect it other than additonal forces left to bodyguard it?

Which best fits the Star League's military mentality and the J-27's capablities?
« Last Edit: 18 October 2011, 21:41:37 by Wraithcannon »
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Re: J-27 Thumper Trailer - Poll Added
« Reply #5 on: 19 October 2011, 20:10:18 »
I figure the 20 ton trailer, the J-27 already has a three ton cargo capacity, enough for a decent supply of 'ready ammo'.  And artillery that gets into trouble is usually best served by depressing the gun and setting the fuse for 'as close to the end of the barrel as we dare'.  :o

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Re: J-27 Thumper Trailer - Poll Added
« Reply #6 on: 19 May 2017, 23:28:17 »
I just want to make sure I'm correct in my assumption that two vehicles attached by trailer hitches can share ammo.

Like the Mobile Long Tom and it's ammo carriage, but in this case, the J-27, it's ammo trailer, and this towed Thumper.
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