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Re: CGL Gencon
« Reply #30 on: 14 August 2017, 14:10:49 »
No, not true. Look at the Zombiecide boxes or Kings of War. Those boxes have tons of detailed plastic minis at a decent price. The molds might be the expensive part, but once those are done the actual cost of each box is very very small. So lets say the mold cost $5,000 and the contents plus packaging cost $3. If you only produce 1,000 units your total cost is $8,000 or $8 per box. You then sell the box to the distributor for $12 who sells it to the game stores for $24 who then sells it to you for $48. Your profit is only $4 per box at this point. For a larger profit you have to sell a higher volume to increase your profit per box. Producing 2,000 units at the same price point increases profit per box to $6.50 per box.

Remember though BattleTech isn't as popular as it used to be so the VOLUME isn't there. The actual cost to produce for the most part is tiny even though the molds are the most expensive aspect. Overall it is not the production that is expensive but the volume of production. If you are unwilling to invest in the production then yes it will end up losing money, but thats more of a marketing/management issue.

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« Reply #31 on: 14 August 2017, 14:54:43 »
With everything we get in the current 24 'Mech box for $60, I'd be willing to bet it's so expensive to produce Catalyst may actually lose money on it.

Not quite. I spoke to Randall about this at PAX Prime 2016.

The Intro Box Set (Out of Print) cost pretty much the entire amount. There is a small margin for retailers/distributors to make some money from it at $60, but it isn't a large amount.

So Catalyst did not make any money from selling the IBS (Except at Con, and any con discounts ate into that).
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« Reply #32 on: 14 August 2017, 17:02:45 »
Seems kind of like selling power tools.  The tools themselves have next to no margin on them.  You make all your money on selling the accessories for them.
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« Reply #33 on: 14 August 2017, 17:43:02 »
Same with printers. They're sold at a loss. The money is made on ink/toner.


Also notice that Total Warfare is priced lower than the other core rulebooks, and TRO 3039 is less than other TROs.
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« Reply #34 on: 21 August 2017, 09:55:17 »
They will likely need switch over to Print-on-demand if they can to save money.  If that's a doable thing,
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Re: CGL Gencon
« Reply #35 on: 21 August 2017, 12:39:43 »
Im  sure if you sold the Minis separate from the box set or the ability to get more, it might sold more.
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« Reply #36 on: 21 August 2017, 14:40:33 »
Is there any additional detail to the postponement of the ilClan sourcebook?

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« Reply #37 on: 21 August 2017, 19:08:37 »
Is there any additional detail to the postponement of the ilClan sourcebook?
Only what Brent mentioned in the video. Revamp of the format.  I guess that hybrid sourcebook/scenario book wasn't working out when he took over.  I'd think it was going to be like the Wars of Reaving book and companion.

Given that the Combat books weren't sell so well, i guess they wanted make sure it would sell. :/
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Re: CGL Gencon
« Reply #38 on: 21 August 2017, 22:05:07 »
The format has nothing to do with it. Nor do the Combat Manuals. Doesn't want the story told via sourcebook.
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« Reply #39 on: 21 August 2017, 22:10:59 »
Adrain, odd question, but has any thought been put into making a larger format Combat Manual, say INNER SPHERE COMBAT MANUAL which would have most of the details as put forth in the individual manuals instead? I.E. A chapter on Capellan Confederation, Another on Free Worlds, etc? so, instead of 5 small books, one larger book with less fluff and more crunch?
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« Reply #40 on: 21 August 2017, 22:44:48 »
the omnibus format is certainly the direction they've gone with Field Manuals since FM: Updates

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« Reply #41 on: 21 August 2017, 22:51:03 »
Not interested.
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« Reply #42 on: 21 August 2017, 23:07:51 »

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« Reply #43 on: 21 August 2017, 23:11:48 »
I am interested in whatever book format ends up with actually getting Marik covered in some fashion similar to a Combat Manual.  That's my stake in this.
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« Reply #44 on: 22 August 2017, 00:04:02 »
Not interested.

Sorry, was that answer aimed at my question?
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« Reply #45 on: 22 August 2017, 00:06:31 »
I think it was in response to this:
the omnibus format is certainly the direction they've gone with Field Manuals since FM: Updates

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« Reply #46 on: 22 August 2017, 00:12:39 »
Sorry, was that answer aimed at my question?
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« Reply #47 on: 22 August 2017, 00:23:26 »
Hey Adrian, just a quick question for you: since ilClan is getting retweaked, could we see the release of the Milestones PDFs to build up to it? (I think that had been the original plan, but I could be mistaken.) Or are they still on indefinite hold? (After ilClan, those are the products I'm most eager for. :D)

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« Reply #48 on: 22 August 2017, 00:28:55 »
They're tied to ilclan. If ilclan is pushed back then so are they.
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« Reply #49 on: 22 August 2017, 00:35:09 »
They're tied to ilclan. If ilclan is pushed back then so are they.

Okay, I understand. Thanks for answering.

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« Reply #50 on: 22 August 2017, 00:37:04 »
Was there any mention of more Touring the Stars or Spot Light series?

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« Reply #51 on: 22 August 2017, 01:03:45 »
Yup.
Not interested in taking what a CM is supposed to be trying to condense it to 20 pages a piece. Not for the sake of completeness.

Cool, and completely understandable. I know I personally want all the CMs but if I can't get them I'm not gonna get mad, sad maybe but not mad.
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« Reply #52 on: 22 August 2017, 08:46:42 »
Even some tanks/APC would be good. Or something like Hex pack with additional terrain (scenario objectives?).

Well GHQ Miniatures has a lot of 1/285th scale armor that you can use. Their M113s are perfect tracked APCs.
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« Reply #53 on: 22 August 2017, 12:10:00 »
I am interested in whatever book format ends up with actually getting Marik covered in some fashion similar to a Combat Manual.  That's my stake in this.

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« Reply #54 on: 22 August 2017, 12:14:51 »
Seconded, thirded, fourthed, fifthed, N+1ed, you get the picture.

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« Reply #55 on: 22 August 2017, 12:46:20 »
@Adrian Gideon.  I know your restricted what you can talk about.  I like to know, since IlClan and it's associated pdfs attached to it are delayed.  What is coming out book/pdf wise?
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Re: CGL Gencon
« Reply #56 on: 22 August 2017, 13:00:21 »
I am interested in whatever book format ends up with actually getting Marik covered in some fashion similar to a Combat Manual.  That's my stake in this.

Same here, just plus Davion as well.

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« Reply #57 on: 22 August 2017, 14:48:19 »
@Adrian Gideon.  I know your restricted what you can talk about.  I like to know, since IlClan and it's associated pdfs attached to it are delayed.  What is coming out book/pdf wise?

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« Reply #58 on: 22 August 2017, 19:53:57 »
Dragonfire?  :)) :)) :))

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« Reply #59 on: 22 August 2017, 20:44:36 »
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