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Re: Any News on the Vakyrie?
« Reply #60 on: 02 June 2017, 08:09:00 »
Bloody hell. HG must pulled something then.  If their missing from the HBS Game, Iron winds pulls most of the Macross related  miniatures. Then it's likely now.  LORD i wish someone buy Harmony Gold liquidate them.  They are worst trolls of properties.  They can't even get their stuff they own going.

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Re: Any News on the Vakyrie?
« Reply #61 on: 02 June 2017, 11:11:37 »
*wonders if jets or mechanical boosters or even K-F drives are being used to reach these conclusions*

We don't know doesn't mean the reason is bad.

We don't know doesn't mean the reason is good.

We don't know means we don't know.
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Re: Any News on the Vakyrie?
« Reply #62 on: 02 June 2017, 11:26:55 »
Well, the Warhammer, Marauder, Archer, and P-Hawk were all released a while after HBS initially announced they had made a deal and were using PGI's game models. It is eintrely possible these newer models were not part of the deal. I mean, if I was PGI, I wouldn't make a deal for all the IS mechs I've got plus any others I might make in the future for set terms. I'd make a deal for what I had, and then if they wanted new stuff later, that would be a separate deal.

As further evidence of this, the Assassin and the Javelin are both NOT unseen, and I don't believe either currently appears in the HBS mech list, even though they are correct for the time period and PGI has models for them.

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Re: Any News on the Vakyrie?
« Reply #63 on: 02 June 2017, 11:48:08 »
*wonders if jets or mechanical boosters or even K-F drives are being used to reach these conclusions*

We don't know doesn't mean the reason is bad.

We don't know doesn't mean the reason is good.

We don't know means we don't know.

I agree, its too early to jump to conclusions, but if life teached me something, its to wait (and prepare) for the worst.
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Re: Any News on the Vakyrie?
« Reply #64 on: 02 June 2017, 11:59:41 »
Well, the Warhammer, Marauder, Archer, and P-Hawk were all released a while after HBS initially announced they had made a deal and were using PGI's game models. It is eintrely possible these newer models were not part of the deal. I mean, if I was PGI, I wouldn't make a deal for all the IS mechs I've got plus any others I might make in the future for set terms. I'd make a deal for what I had, and then if they wanted new stuff later, that would be a separate deal.

As further evidence of this, the Assassin and the Javelin are both NOT unseen, and I don't believe either currently appears in the HBS mech list, even though they are correct for the time period and PGI has models for them.
The last two are too new. Indeed, there are others as well (like the Cyclops, i think). I figure these might get patched in or included in expansions if any will be made for HBS BT. While HBS does use PGI's models, they need to be rigged for melee animations, and possibly some other stuff. Takes time and money.

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Re: Any News on the Vakyrie?
« Reply #65 on: 02 June 2017, 14:19:59 »
As further evidence of this, the Assassin and the Javelin are both NOT unseen, and I don't believe either currently appears in the HBS mech list, even though they are correct for the time period and PGI has models for them.

I´m sure Paradox threw a temper tantrum like "Me wants contents for teh DLCs! Give me regular stuff I can sellz as specioul contentz maximisn teh profits!"

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Re: Any News on the Vakyrie?
« Reply #66 on: 02 June 2017, 15:15:59 »
Do we know for sure that it is Harmony Gold pulling this c**p or is this just idle speculation?
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Re: Any News on the Vakyrie?
« Reply #67 on: 02 June 2017, 15:38:12 »
Do we know for sure that it is Harmony Gold pulling this c**p or is this just idle speculation?

For now, only especulation. There is no information on the cause of all this problem.
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Re: Any News on the Vakyrie?
« Reply #68 on: 02 June 2017, 15:58:58 »
Yeah, that's why we shouldn't promote doom, only gloom >:D

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Re: Any News on the Vakyrie?
« Reply #69 on: 02 June 2017, 17:55:53 »
Yeah, that's why we shouldn't promote doom, only gloom >:D

gloom is 15-20% more marketable

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Re: Any News on the Vakyrie?
« Reply #70 on: 02 June 2017, 18:45:40 »
Do we know for sure that it is Harmony Gold pulling this c**p or is this just idle speculation?

Pure speculation. Even in my case I was careful to frame it purely as paranoia with an amusing cat picture.

I look forward to that paranoia being proven unjustified.
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Re: Any News on the Vakyrie?
« Reply #71 on: 02 June 2017, 22:17:09 »
Pure speculation. Even in my case I was careful to frame it purely as paranoia with an amusing cat picture.

I look forward to that paranoia being proven unjustified.
Me too. I want be wrong with my hunch on this. The pull of all the Classics is what steering my gut feelings about it.
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Re: Any News on the Vakyrie?
« Reply #72 on: 02 June 2017, 23:39:35 »
You can't base that paranoia solely on the fact that those TWO minis are not in distribution. CGL and to some extent PGI would both get hit with a polite letter (or nasty gram C&D) before IWM would. The fact that only the minis have been affected means something else. Paranoia is good, but don't be so narrow minded with said paranoia ^-^

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Re: Any News on the Vakyrie?
« Reply #73 on: 03 June 2017, 07:49:28 »
Have we eliminated the possibility that TPTB heard our complaints about the Wasp mini, agreed with us, and pulled the mini for re-sculpting?

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Re: Any News on the Vakyrie?
« Reply #74 on: 03 June 2017, 08:49:32 »
Have we eliminated the possibility that TPTB heard our complaints about the Wasp mini, agreed with us, and pulled the mini for re-sculpting?
Now that would just be foolish to think, especially considering the new assistant line dev's involvement with the miniatures side of the game.  :D

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Re: Any News on the Vakyrie?
« Reply #75 on: 03 June 2017, 09:41:48 »
Now that would just be foolish to think, especially considering the new assistant line dev's involvement with the miniatures side of the game.  :D

Some people just liking stepping on everyone's toes for the fun of it. It's a good plan to knock the new LD, ALD, three artists who contributed, and several other individuals involved all in one post, right?

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Re: Any News on the Vakyrie?
« Reply #76 on: 03 June 2017, 20:50:54 »
I haven't had a chance to see this artwork in question. PM me if you have details that could lead to it's arres...I mean viewing. :))

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Re: Any News on the Vakyrie?
« Reply #77 on: 03 June 2017, 21:17:36 »
Have we eliminated the possibility that TPTB heard our complaints about the Wasp mini, agreed with us, and pulled the mini for re-sculpting?

Has Iron Wind Metals ever done that in the history of ever? If they were going to do a re-sculpt, they wouldn't pull the original before the re-sculpt was ready. Heck, some minis have gotten a re-sculpt long ago, and their original sculpts are still for sale alongside the re-sculpt.
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Re: Any News on the Vakyrie?
« Reply #78 on: 04 June 2017, 13:08:08 »
[face palm] Oh my. Calm down. Everything will be 'A' okay... Speck is an excellent guy. Please, give him some respect (for all he continues to do for us).

Fully endorse this.  Look, this area is one of my favorite places on the board to come relax.  More knowledge and talent here than in any other part of the board, IMO.  O0

That being said, take a breath, there may be a reason and I'm sure it will come out in due time.  I have an idea - go see Wonder Woman pay out some smack down on bad guys and relax.  [watch]

I'm getting twitchy just reading some of this... #P


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Re: Any News on the Vakyrie?
« Reply #79 on: 04 June 2017, 23:13:46 »
Of all the nuSeens to get delayed or whatnot, why'd it have to be the one I'm actually interested in?

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Re: Any News on the Vakyrie?
« Reply #80 on: 04 June 2017, 23:35:02 »
Of all the nuSeens to get delayed or whatnot, why'd it have to be the one I'm actually interested in?

Murphy's Law... #P

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Re: Any News on the Vakyrie?
« Reply #81 on: 05 June 2017, 01:59:14 »
Murphy's Law... #P
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Re: Any News on the Vakyrie?
« Reply #82 on: 05 June 2017, 11:25:07 »
Has anyone checked to make sure it wasn't gremlins?  [##]
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Re: Any News on the Vakyrie?
« Reply #83 on: 05 June 2017, 12:04:29 »
You can't base that paranoia solely on the fact that those TWO minis are not in distribution.

You don't have much experience with paranoia, do you?  O:-)
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Re: Any News on the Vakyrie?
« Reply #84 on: 05 June 2017, 16:16:08 »
Enough to look at the bigger picture :D

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Re: Any News on the Vakyrie?
« Reply #85 on: 05 June 2017, 18:02:02 »
They are still in retail, but I am skeptical of any new production. The saga of Palladium's Robotech minis is a subject for its own thread.

Basically, HG badly overproduced Wave One, so there's a LOT of that available, and they haven't been able to even begin producing Wave Two because they overspent so much on Wave One. They can't proceed with anything else until they get Wave Two out.