Author Topic: Talk to me about SLDF designs that Clanners use: The Pillager etc.  (Read 13949 times)

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While I know the Exterminator was taken to the Homeworlds its very unclanlike in its design. So assuming it was not scrapped for parts what would a IIC version be like? Who would use it? Hmmmm I imagine the Society would have done nasty things with them

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While I know the Exterminator was taken to the Homeworlds its very unclanlike in its design. So assuming it was not scrapped for parts what would a IIC version be like? Who would use it? Hmmmm I imagine the Society would have done nasty things with them

The Society had Omnimechs with Nova CEWS.

The Exterminator is more of a gunslinger mech, the quality of society pilots was to say the least lacking.

However if they did make one, I'd imagine, iATM-9, 4x Improved Heavy Medium Lases, and a LAMS, with DHS.

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Well, just because a mech was on the first exodus doesn't mean it survived the Pentagon Civil War, the second Exodus, and Klondike.  Aren't we told that as headhunter mechs Exterminators were prime targets?  And even after that there were still a few decades of Clan wars where a mech like an Exterminator might have been used (I can imagine a fair few being used by Clan Mongoose in units that hadn't yet received omnis, meaning they'd have been destroyed by the Jaguars).  Honestly, the Clans just do so much fighting that they turn over mechs in a huge hurry.

The same of course holds true for any other mech.  Sure, we know there were regiments upon regiments stashed away for rainy days, and I suppose its up to any given player what's in them.  But I'd be surprised if any of the really really cool stuff didn't get fished out over the last two centuries.
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hmmm I wonder then what was the main factor for a mech to survive to the 3050ish era

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The SLDF in Exile took allot of mechs with them: Black Knights, Thugs, Ect. Doesn't mean they should all get the IIC treatment considering the the number new mech being produced.
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hmmm I wonder then what was the main factor for a mech to survive to the 3050ish era

More than likely locked in Cold Storage, because they were unclanlike, or were ineffective.

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Has anyone used the Archer C ( or Wolfs Dragoon) clan tech archer? Seems pretty solid

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Has anyone used the Archer C ( or Wolfs Dragoon) clan tech archer? Seems pretty solid

The Archer C is meh, solid basic mech, but nothing special, better than an ARC-2R DHS, ER Medium Lasers. However there is a lot of unused space. 10 Tons just from Swapping IS LRMS with Clan LRMS. Personally I would have preferred a Clan Refit of the ARC-2K.

For an indirect Fire mech the ARC-2W it is great in 3025 games, though lacking the 3 tons of armor means you will want to keep it well away from the action.
The ARC-5W is better, as it now has NARC, and XL Engine, DHS and CASE.






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I'll back the above, ARC-5W is a mean son of a bitch. Had a hell of a time killing one in a merc campaign years ago- I ran the OPFOR, and that damned Archer would take a pummeling, shrug it off, and wander home when the fight was over or it had run out of LRMs. Every. Single. Time. It finally took a full alpha-strike from a Stuka to put it down- and it bagged the fighter in the exchange.
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The Archer C is meh, solid basic mech, but nothing special, better than an ARC-2R DHS, ER Medium Lasers. However there is a lot of unused space. 10 Tons just from Swapping IS LRMS with Clan LRMS. Personally I would have preferred a Clan Refit of the ARC-2K. 
I'm pretty sure the Archer-C does NOT have DHS.
Its nothing more than a Field Grade-A refit of clan weaponry, as are "most" of the "C" models from the Twycross book.

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I'll back the above, ARC-5W is a mean son of a bitch. Had a hell of a time killing one in a merc campaign years ago- I ran the OPFOR, and that damned Archer would take a pummeling, shrug it off, and wander home when the fight was over or it had run out of LRMs. Every. Single. Time. It finally took a full alpha-strike from a Stuka to put it down- and it bagged the fighter in the exchange.

Ouch.


I've used the 5S which is similar, but I don't think I've ever seen the 5W on the board in the 25+ years since 3050 came out.  :(
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I'm pretty sure the Archer-C does NOT have DHS.
Its nothing more than a Field Grade-A refit of clan weaponry, as are "most" of the "C" models from the Twycross book.
Yup. Straight weapon swap only. 10 tons underweight, generates over three times as much heat as it can dissipate with an alpha strike... With some tweaking, the 'Mech would be monstrous powerhouse from Spheroid perspective.

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Apollo's law, lol . . . I think that empty space on all the Cs should have been retcon'd into SHS (Clans salvaged enough) and that would at least make them legit.
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Apollo's law, lol . . . I think that empty space on all the Cs should have been retcon'd into SHS (Clans salvaged enough) and that would at least make them legit. 

Agreed, I always felt if they just added some SHS to make up for the missing weight things would have been MUCH better off.
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It finally took a full alpha-strike from a Stuka to put it down- and it bagged the fighter in the exchange.

I did that with a LB-20X and 3 medium laser armed Thunder once...my 'Mech was still standing and hardly scratched afterwards...his Stuka was a burning lawn dart shredded over half the landscape...

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Alas the annilater and shogun mechs are hideous hopefully we get resculpts someday! But what about the Devastor I know only 6 prototypes left with the sldf... What mech would have taken its place?

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Alas the annilater and shogun mechs are hideous hopefully we get resculpts someday! But what about the Devastor I know only 6 prototypes left with the sldf... What mech would have taken its place?
SLDF-In-Exile would have had the Imp, the new symbol of the SLDF to be that design.  Thunderhawk would been among those assault mechs too, since it was in the same situation as the Devastator and Pillager.
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Alas the annilater and shogun mechs are hideous hopefully we get resculpts someday! But what about the Devastor I know only 6 prototypes left with the sldf... What mech would have taken its place?

Personal opinion is a rough thing to base plans on though. I'm a fan of the Annihilator's looks, myself.
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Personal opinion is a rough thing to base plans on though. I'm a fan of the Annihilator's looks, myself.
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Personal opinion is a rough thing to base plans on though. I'm a fan of the Annihilator's looks, myself.

I really did not like the look in the tech manuals I read but I really like the artwork I find of it online.  Those versions rock and make me want to play one.

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Same. What do you think would be more common in the blood spirits ranks circa 3060ish the emperor or the annihaltor?

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What if any omni design replaced the annihalator?

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So far the Kingfisher is the first Assault Omni that we know about (as far as I know) which shows up lik 30-40 years after the Annihilator, so theoretically that one, but you don't really get a "Slow" assault design until the Dire Wolf in 3010.

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So far the Kingfisher is the first Assault Omni that we know about (as far as I know) which shows up lik 30-40 years after the Annihilator, so theoretically that one, but you don't really get a "Slow" assault design until the Dire Wolf in 3010.
At least not that we know of. There is the possibility of one on TRO: Golden Century, but I haven't seen the unit list so I have no idea if there is one or not.
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Is TRO golden century in the pipeline?

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Is TRO golden century in the pipeline?
It's on the coming soon page and I haven't heard any news of it being cancelled, just that it's not as far along in production as some of the other stuff mentioned in this thread.
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Very cool. I love the IIC and the old school non Omni designs so I am all about this

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Waaay back, it was mentioned that the IICs we'd like new Classic versions aren't in mind for that book unfortunately.  Hopefully that changed, but i remember it being said.
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Interesting so are thinking it would be more early omnis or transitional non omnis like the kodiak?