Author Topic: Re: DROP POD SEQUENCE INITIATED…THREE, TWO, ONE! (The announcements, finally)  (Read 12187 times)

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Oh my so much I have to read more in depth on.

I'll assume it is okay to start giving feedback when something more than <TBD> is in the IO Beta thread.

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I think the talk of who will be the ilClan would be best in its own thread. But that said...

That is interesting... I was aware of the historical meaning behind the name Alaric...  I didn't think that it would that much significance in-Universe.

Oh come on. He's the rightful heir to two different thrones, was the product of secret incest, was not born of woman, was raised by Wolves, his father was the greatest hero of his generation and his mother one of the foulest villains, became Khan by his own hand, and carved out an Empire. All he has left to do is beat Grendel to death with his own arm and destroy the Death Star.
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My debit card is already sweating from the workout it's getting.

Also is the final print version of IO going to have the same cover as the few print beta's you guys are selling at Gen Con ??

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I think the talk of who will be the ilClan would be best in its own thread. But that said...

Oh come on. He's the rightful heir to two different thrones, was the product of secret incest, was not born of woman, was raised by Wolves, his father was the greatest hero of his generation and his mother one of the foulest villains, became Khan by his own hand, and carved out an Empire. All he has left to do is beat Grendel to death with his own arm and destroy the Death Star.

I'm laughing like a crazy person right now, I can see Alaric streaking down the Death Star Trench in his T-65 X-Wing, with Victor Steiner-Davion whispering "Use the Force" to him.

I'm off to buy the IO Beta, be back in a but!
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My money is on the Wolverines as the IlClan......sweet poetic justice.

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Have to say it would be interesting to have an emperor in Battletech for a change.
The previous one was Stefan Amaris... we know how that ended.
While practically all nations in BTU are de facto absolute monarchies/dictatorships, we haven't really had any that styles itself as an empire, before the Wolf Empire.
I'd be very much okay with Wolf Empire being the IlClan.

Because... well, you see, empires have tendency to come down burning... The aftermath is always such a good possibility for a setting.

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So is the Unseen art and the new art getting the 2750/3057 SLDF WarShip treatment, where both existed at some point?
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No.  This is a retcon.  The Phoenix designs will still exist, but the classics are back.
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It should be noted that you can still use whatever you want in your games, but this allows the 3025-era variants to be used in official events (Demo Team events, GenCon, tournaments, etc.) and pictured in art. It also allows CGL and IWM to produce and sell miniatures of those variants again.
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No.  This is a retcon.  The Phoenix designs will still exist, but the classics are back.

I wasn't referring to the Phoenix artwork/designs, but the actual Unseen artwork.  In other words, is an Unseen BattleMaster, or Warhammer, or Shadow Hawk no longer a BattleMaster, Warhammer or Shadow Hawk?

It should be noted that you can still use whatever you want in your games, but this allows the 3025-era variants to be used in official events (Demo Team events, GenCon, tournaments, etc.) and pictured in art. It also allows CGL and IWM to produce and sell miniatures of those variants again.

Yeah, got that part, and agree it's a good thing.  I'm just trying to clarify if the old Unseen artwork is still considered valid for some versions/production runs of the 'Mechs, just like we somehow have two different sets of artwork for, say, the Cameron class battlecruiser, both of which are considered canon/valid.
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I wasn't referring to the Phoenix artwork/designs, but the actual Unseen artwork.  In other words, is an Unseen BattleMaster, or Warhammer, or Shadow Hawk no longer a BattleMaster, Warhammer or Shadow Hawk?

Yeah, got that part, and agree it's a good thing.  I'm just trying to clarify if the old Unseen artwork is still considered valid for some versions/production runs of the 'Mechs, just like we somehow have two different sets of artwork for, say, the Cameron class battlecruiser, both of which are considered canon/valid.

This is a full retcon.  The Warhammer -6R now looks like the Warhammer in the announcement.  It is the look that all previously unseen Warhammers share in large part.  There are no more unseen Warhammers.
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This is a full retcon.  The Warhammer -6R now looks like the Warhammer in the announcement.  It is the look that all previously unseen Warhammers share in large part.  There are no more unseen Warhammers.

Which is making giddy beyond belief.  If finances permit I may actually see about hitting up my nearest demo agent for a fight during their next official game post IWM produced BLR-1G Battlemaster.

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I believe this is a "this is how they have always been for our publications" kind of thing.  Not a "well, the Star League Marauder looks like a Glaug Officer's Pod but a Marauder produced after 2940 looks like this."  I think the idea is to erase the old images and not have to fit a square peg in the circular hole.  This will allow them to not be backed into a corner in any era.

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I just had a chance to look at the announcement and all I have to say is -- take my money. All of it. That Whammie... can I marry it?  [drool]

More seriously, thank you, Catalyst. THIS is the solution I'd been hoping for. I'd resigned myself to the Phoenix designs (in fact learned to love a couple of them) while despairing of ever having artwork for the 3025-era notables due to the Phoenix designs not being canon in that time period. Seeing the Black Widow Company in action again in official art makes me cry Manly Tears of joy.

Now being able to safely ignore the fugly PhoenixHammer and PhoenixRauder is icing on the cake  ;D

From the bottom of my heart, thank you.
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Yeah, got that part, and agree it's a good thing.  I'm just trying to clarify if the old Unseen artwork is still considered valid for some versions/production runs of the 'Mechs, just like we somehow have two different sets of artwork for, say, the Cameron class battlecruiser, both of which are considered canon/valid.

The 2750 and 3057 WarShip art was all produced in-house for FASA and is part and parcel of the BattleTech IP. The Unseen images are owned by other, sometimes hostile, companies. It's apples and oranges.
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They'd better do one Hell of a job re-drawing the Thud.   I love me the Primitive, but every other one. . . ugh.  Looking forward to that almost as much as I am the new Wolverine!


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The 2750 and 3057 WarShip art was all produced in-house for FASA and is part and parcel of the BattleTech IP. The Unseen images are owned by other, sometimes hostile, companies. It's apples and oranges.

I'm also aware of that.  And I'm happy that this will give Catalyst and IWM the opportunity for new sales.

Still doesn't keep me from being bummed out.

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sneak peek of the thud on pg 341 of IO

it's from behind... and missing its head... but that's what we've got right now

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sneak peek of the thud on pg 341 of IO

it's from behind... and missing its head... but that's what we've got right now

I believe they will all look alike Shimmy's version
Just look at them, they are very similar
http://shimmering-sword.deviantart.com/art/Battletech-Unseen-Moon-396176559

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What? Like maybe some of the Succession Wars XTROs?





 >:D

Alpha Strike Box Set.

 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0

Yes please. Yes please. Yes-please-yes-please-yes-please-yespleaseyespleaseyesplease.... and it kinda goes on from there...

By the way, thanks for killing my productivity at work today  :D
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Kinda having mixed feelings about this release, on one hand very happy to finally see IO (pdf downloaded and busy scanning through it) but on the other hand very unhappy to see the force creation rules which were beta tested back in 2012 have been moved to yet another book - I'm assuming for space reasons. I've been waiting for these rules since IO was announced so long ago I've forgotten when :)

So back to waiting for yet another book to be released.  >:(

 

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What force creation rules?  I ask simply because there are a lot of rules/systems for such a thing in various products already . . . could also be removed from the Beta release.
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What force creation rules?  I ask simply because there are a lot of rules/systems for such a thing in various products already . . . could also be removed from the Beta release.

They'll be in the campaign companion, i expect - which is already on the Coming Releases page

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On recommendation from one of the Beemers in purple, I've stickied this thread.
By the odd chance I wasn't supposed to do that, I'm sorry.

However it may be a moot point.
You giggling gaggle of giddy gamers just keep popping this thread up to the top anyways.  ;)

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Before today I thought that the coming releases page was unusually full of stuff I wanted. I didn't think I could be more impressed, but today here we are.

Kinda having mixed feelings about this release, on one hand very happy to finally see IO (pdf downloaded and busy scanning through it) but on the other hand very unhappy to see the force creation rules which were beta tested back in 2012 have been moved to yet another book - I'm assuming for space reasons. I've been waiting for these rules since IO was announced so long ago I've forgotten when :)

So back to waiting for yet another book to be released.  >:(

However I'll say that I think it's for the better that we finally got a full book that details force creation and campaign rules. I feel like that's what Strategic Operation should have been.

Now, it's still not exactly a one-stop shop for campaigns since a bunch of campaign-related content made it into Strategic Operations and you'll need Tech Manual and Tactical Operations for all of the price/availability/etc. data, but hey I'm glad that it's finally going to be here.

Maybe when the rules get a refresh and a new set of books in anoher decade or two we can have a one-stop campaign book :V

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What force creation rules?  I ask simply because there are a lot of rules/systems for such a thing in various products already . . . could also be removed from the Beta release.

The ones discussed in this thread http://bg.battletech.com/forums/catalyst-asks-you!/interstellar-operations-open-beta-test-creating-a-force-discussion/

I was hoping they'd make the book after such a prominent beta testing, but as Sartris said they should be covered by the campaign companion, at least I'm hoping they are :)

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The ones discussed in this thread http://bg.battletech.com/forums/catalyst-asks-you!/interstellar-operations-open-beta-test-creating-a-force-discussion/

I was hoping they'd make the book after such a prominent beta testing, but as Sartris said they should be covered by the campaign companion, at least I'm hoping they are :)

They will be. It's noted as such in the Coming Releases page.
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About the RoTS/FedSuns joining thing, I think that the RoTS is going to fall apart, but the FedSuns will absorb most of it because ideologically their the closest match.

As for the Combat Manuals, the TRO inside of them will likely be about bringing new units to AS, so no new stuff for TW/BT proper

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As for the Combat Manuals, the TRO inside of them will likely be about bringing new units to AS, so no new stuff for TW/BT proper
Why? Units still need to be designed in BT before AS stats can be made.
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