« previous next »
Pages: [1] 2  All   Go Down

Author Topic: Stone Rhino Gauss Rifles  (Read 9547 times)

Mechwarriorfreak

  • Lieutenant
  • *
  • Posts: 1085
  • You messed with the wrong fast food CEO.....
Stone Rhino Gauss Rifles
« on: 25 August 2011, 13:55:38 »
I'm a little confused. The legendary Stone Rhino (Behemoth), is armed with 2 Large Pulse Lasers, 2 Gauss Rifles, and 1 Small Pulse Laser. Correct? However, in the pictures of this mech, there's only one large barrel above the cockpit instead of two. Can someone please explain to me why there aren't two above the cockpit to fit the description of the mech instead of one?
Logged
"Is it better to be feared, or respected? And I say, is it too much to ask for both?" -Tony Stark, Iron Man

Fat Guy

  • Major
  • *
  • Posts: 5003
  • I make beer disappear. What's your superpower?
Re: Stone Rhino Gauss Rifles
« Reply #1 on: 25 August 2011, 14:00:22 »
Because back in the day FASA was pretty bad about making a unit's loadout match it's art. The Behemoth is one of the best examples. Likewise, where are any of the weapons on the Phoenix Hawk IIC, Shadow Hawk IIC, or Griffin IIC?
Logged
I have spoken.

Mechwarriorfreak

  • Lieutenant
  • *
  • Posts: 1085
  • You messed with the wrong fast food CEO.....
Re: Stone Rhino Gauss Rifles
« Reply #2 on: 25 August 2011, 14:02:21 »
Well then they need to hire new artists!
Logged
"Is it better to be feared, or respected? And I say, is it too much to ask for both?" -Tony Stark, Iron Man

JPArbiter

  • Captain
  • *
  • Posts: 3139
  • Podcasting Monkey
    • Arbitration Studios, your last word in battletech talk
Re: Stone Rhino Gauss Rifles
« Reply #3 on: 25 August 2011, 14:05:36 »
the large gun barrel is a SMALL PULSE LASER

it is there simply to annouce that the Behemoth HAS A SMALL PULSE LASER!

the the Gauss Rifles are hidden behind the circular pads in the torso.

BTW I am trying to create a Meme on the leve of THOMAS HOGARTH!!!

Quote from: Mechwarriorfreak on 25 August 2011, 14:02:21
Well then they need to hire new artists!

they did.  http://www.sarna.net/wiki/File:3055U_Stone_Rhino.jpg  see TWO gauss rifles, and no SMALL PULSE LASERS!
« Last Edit: 25 August 2011, 14:07:29 by JPArbiter »
Logged
Host of Arbitration, your last word in Battletech Talk

Mechwarriorfreak

  • Lieutenant
  • *
  • Posts: 1085
  • You messed with the wrong fast food CEO.....
Re: Stone Rhino Gauss Rifles
« Reply #4 on: 25 August 2011, 14:09:58 »
Yeah but that was on the Stone Rhino 2. I'm talking about the original configuration.
Logged
"Is it better to be feared, or respected? And I say, is it too much to ask for both?" -Tony Stark, Iron Man

JPArbiter

  • Captain
  • *
  • Posts: 3139
  • Podcasting Monkey
    • Arbitration Studios, your last word in battletech talk
Re: Stone Rhino Gauss Rifles
« Reply #5 on: 25 August 2011, 14:25:05 »
maybe but it solves the problem of lack of two distinct gauss rifle barrels.  all you need to do is replace the Bevy of Heavy lasers with a large pulse, and then a chin mounted SMALL... well you get it
Logged
Host of Arbitration, your last word in Battletech Talk

jymset

  • Infinita Navitas & RecGuide Developer
  • Freelance Writer
  • Lieutenant
  • *
  • Posts: 1529
  • the one and only
Re: Stone Rhino Gauss Rifles
« Reply #6 on: 25 August 2011, 14:32:52 »
Quote from: Mechwarriorfreak on 25 August 2011, 14:09:58
Yeah but that was on the Stone Rhino 2. I'm talking about the original configuration.

If you reread what JPArbiter wrote, the message is actually correct, despite the fun. The miniature of the original Behemoth helps a lot - the side rear torsos feature large gauss breeches.
Logged
On CGL writing: Caught between a writer's block and a Herb place. (cray)

Nicest writing compliment ever: I know [redacted] doesn't like continuity porn, but I do, and you sir, write some great continuity porn! (MadCapellan)

3055 rocks! Did so when I was a n00b, does so now.

cold1

  • Major
  • *
  • Posts: 4881
  • Goon
Re: Stone Rhino Gauss Rifles
« Reply #7 on: 25 August 2011, 14:34:56 »
Fluff describes it as a single barrel tube with 2 barrels inside.  Theoretically, there should be a divider in the middle, but the art does not match.

I really want some art for the Stone Rhino 3
Logged


To the patient go the spoils

Sandslice

  • Lieutenant
  • *
  • Posts: 961
Re: Stone Rhino Gauss Rifles
« Reply #8 on: 25 August 2011, 14:39:47 »
Quote from: cold1 on 25 August 2011, 14:34:56
Fluff describes it as a single barrel tube with 2 barrels inside.  Theoretically, there should be a divider in the middle, but the art does not match.

I really want some art for the Stone Rhino 3

Fluff is also (generally) based on an insistence that big weapons be highly visible.  Heavily protected interior rifles, and an intimidating SMALL PULSE LASER LOLOL on the dorsal mount make more sense, given the Behemoth's intention to be resilient enough to not afraid of several anyones.
Logged

ItsTehPope

  • Catalyst Demo Team
  • Lieutenant
  • *
  • Posts: 1565
Re: Stone Rhino Gauss Rifles
« Reply #9 on: 25 August 2011, 14:41:45 »
Quote from: cold1 on 25 August 2011, 14:34:56
Fluff describes it as a single barrel tube with 2 barrels inside.  Theoretically, there should be a divider in the middle, but the art does not match.

I really want some art for the Stone Rhino 3

Where does the fluff state this?
Logged
If you actually care to listen to my thoughts outside of Battletech, find me at www.uselessblot.com

(4:37:55 PM) moonsword134: You're a bastard.
(4:38:11 PM) moonsword134: And so's the talking whiskey monkey who lives in bottles of tequila to give you ideas.

(4:52:52 PM) ShinjoJinturi: simply by having tag on the field, even in a game that appears to not have any lrms or arrows on the board, you can inspire fear

Mechwarriorfreak

  • Lieutenant
  • *
  • Posts: 1085
  • You messed with the wrong fast food CEO.....
Re: Stone Rhino Gauss Rifles
« Reply #10 on: 25 August 2011, 14:47:05 »
Quote from: Sandslice on 25 August 2011, 14:39:47
Fluff is also (generally) based on an insistence that big weapons be highly visible.  Heavily protected interior rifles, and an intimidating SMALL PULSE LASER LOLOL on the dorsal mount make more sense, given the Behemoth's intention to be resilient enough to not afraid of several anyones.
Well it COULD be what the fluff said. About how the gauss rifles were put into one barrel. A good thing about that is increased accuracy of it. However, I'm not sure that's the case here.
Logged
"Is it better to be feared, or respected? And I say, is it too much to ask for both?" -Tony Stark, Iron Man

Sandslice

  • Lieutenant
  • *
  • Posts: 961
Re: Stone Rhino Gauss Rifles
« Reply #11 on: 25 August 2011, 14:49:44 »
Quote from: Mechwarriorfreak on 25 August 2011, 14:47:05
Well it COULD be what the fluff said. About how the gauss rifles were put into one barrel. A good thing about that is increased accuracy of it. However, I'm not sure that's the case here.
Fluff I haven't read outside of sarna.net; it's not in either printing of TRO 3055.
Logged

Mechwarriorfreak

  • Lieutenant
  • *
  • Posts: 1085
  • You messed with the wrong fast food CEO.....
Re: Stone Rhino Gauss Rifles
« Reply #12 on: 25 August 2011, 14:53:22 »
Quote from: Sandslice on 25 August 2011, 14:49:44
Fluff I haven't read outside of sarna.net; it's not in either printing of TRO 3055.
Thats what I don't like about TROs sometimes. They don't give enough information. And yeah, sarna and solaris7 are my main and only sources of my information.
Logged
"Is it better to be feared, or respected? And I say, is it too much to ask for both?" -Tony Stark, Iron Man

gooseman

  • CDT Miniatures XO
  • Global Moderator
  • Major
  • *
  • Posts: 3482
Re: Stone Rhino Gauss Rifles
« Reply #13 on: 25 August 2011, 14:59:43 »
Quote from: ItsTehPope on 25 August 2011, 14:41:45
Where does the fluff state this?

There is no spoon....
Logged
Daoshen Liao: Wrong! Xavier! What is best in life?
Xavier McCarron: To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women.

ItsTehPope

  • Catalyst Demo Team
  • Lieutenant
  • *
  • Posts: 1565
Re: Stone Rhino Gauss Rifles
« Reply #14 on: 25 August 2011, 15:02:00 »
Quote from: Sandslice on 25 August 2011, 14:49:44
Fluff I haven't read outside of sarna.net; it's not in either printing of TRO 3055.

If its not in the TRO or some other print material it isn't canon....Sarnas entry on it is likely wrong.
Logged
If you actually care to listen to my thoughts outside of Battletech, find me at www.uselessblot.com

(4:37:55 PM) moonsword134: You're a bastard.
(4:38:11 PM) moonsword134: And so's the talking whiskey monkey who lives in bottles of tequila to give you ideas.

(4:52:52 PM) ShinjoJinturi: simply by having tag on the field, even in a game that appears to not have any lrms or arrows on the board, you can inspire fear

JPArbiter

  • Captain
  • *
  • Posts: 3139
  • Podcasting Monkey
    • Arbitration Studios, your last word in battletech talk
Re: Stone Rhino Gauss Rifles
« Reply #15 on: 25 August 2011, 15:02:48 »
Quote from: ItsTehPope on 25 August 2011, 15:02:00
If its not in the TRO or some other print material it isn't canon....Sarnas entry on it is entirely wrong.

Fixed it for you
Logged
Host of Arbitration, your last word in Battletech Talk

Mechwarriorfreak

  • Lieutenant
  • *
  • Posts: 1085
  • You messed with the wrong fast food CEO.....
Re: Stone Rhino Gauss Rifles
« Reply #16 on: 25 August 2011, 15:03:03 »
Logged
"Is it better to be feared, or respected? And I say, is it too much to ask for both?" -Tony Stark, Iron Man

Mechwarriorfreak

  • Lieutenant
  • *
  • Posts: 1085
  • You messed with the wrong fast food CEO.....
Re: Stone Rhino Gauss Rifles
« Reply #17 on: 25 August 2011, 15:03:53 »
Quote from: ItsTehPope on 25 August 2011, 15:02:00
If its not in the TRO or some other print material it isn't canon....Sarnas entry on it is likely wrong.
Well you see, the TROs are where saran gets their information from. They are very strict on whats canon and whats not.
Logged
"Is it better to be feared, or respected? And I say, is it too much to ask for both?" -Tony Stark, Iron Man

jymset

  • Infinita Navitas & RecGuide Developer
  • Freelance Writer
  • Lieutenant
  • *
  • Posts: 1529
  • the one and only
Re: Stone Rhino Gauss Rifles
« Reply #18 on: 25 August 2011, 15:05:35 »
So are some of us O:-)
Logged
On CGL writing: Caught between a writer's block and a Herb place. (cray)

Nicest writing compliment ever: I know [redacted] doesn't like continuity porn, but I do, and you sir, write some great continuity porn! (MadCapellan)

3055 rocks! Did so when I was a n00b, does so now.

Peter Smith

  • LBI Shareholder
  • Captain
  • *
  • Posts: 2389
Re: Stone Rhino Gauss Rifles
« Reply #19 on: 25 August 2011, 15:07:28 »
Quote from: Mechwarriorfreak on 25 August 2011, 15:03:53
Well you see, the TROs are where saran gets their information from. They are very strict on whats canon and whats not.

And yet there are mistakes over there. It's a wiki, you can't rely on it being vetted properly.
Logged
Power corrupts. Absolute power is kinda neat.

"Now I've got the image of a Haywire pod that's broadcasting "stop hitting yourself" over and over." MoneyLovinOgre4Hire

ItsTehPope

  • Catalyst Demo Team
  • Lieutenant
  • *
  • Posts: 1565
Re: Stone Rhino Gauss Rifles
« Reply #20 on: 25 August 2011, 15:08:19 »
Quote from: Mechwarriorfreak on 25 August 2011, 15:03:53
Well you see, the TROs are where saran gets their information from. They are very strict on whats canon and whats not.

Sarna is a wiki.  Like any other wiki it can be filled with erroneous information.  Like this nonsense about the gauss barrels.
Logged
If you actually care to listen to my thoughts outside of Battletech, find me at www.uselessblot.com

(4:37:55 PM) moonsword134: You're a bastard.
(4:38:11 PM) moonsword134: And so's the talking whiskey monkey who lives in bottles of tequila to give you ideas.

(4:52:52 PM) ShinjoJinturi: simply by having tag on the field, even in a game that appears to not have any lrms or arrows on the board, you can inspire fear

Mechwarriorfreak

  • Lieutenant
  • *
  • Posts: 1085
  • You messed with the wrong fast food CEO.....
Re: Stone Rhino Gauss Rifles
« Reply #21 on: 25 August 2011, 15:09:48 »
Quote from: ItsTehPope on 25 August 2011, 15:08:19
Sarna is a wiki.  Like any other wiki it can be filled with erroneous information.  Like this nonsense about the gauss barrels.
Thats why I also have solaris7.
Logged
"Is it better to be feared, or respected? And I say, is it too much to ask for both?" -Tony Stark, Iron Man

JPArbiter

  • Captain
  • *
  • Posts: 3139
  • Podcasting Monkey
    • Arbitration Studios, your last word in battletech talk
Re: Stone Rhino Gauss Rifles
« Reply #22 on: 25 August 2011, 15:11:28 »
Quote from: Mechwarriorfreak on 25 August 2011, 15:09:48
Thats why I also have solaris7.

which is also end user, and thus subject to false information.  if you want canon info, buy the books
Logged
Host of Arbitration, your last word in Battletech Talk

Mechwarriorfreak

  • Lieutenant
  • *
  • Posts: 1085
  • You messed with the wrong fast food CEO.....
Re: Stone Rhino Gauss Rifles
« Reply #23 on: 25 August 2011, 15:13:27 »
Quote from: JPArbiter on 25 August 2011, 15:11:28
which is also end user, and thus subject to false information.  if you want canon info, buy the books
I don't have the money. But I LOVE battletech regardless. Here's what we all can agree on. The Stone Rhino has two gauss rifles, two large pulse lasers, and a small pulse lasers. And it also has a 300 rated standard fusion engine.
Logged
"Is it better to be feared, or respected? And I say, is it too much to ask for both?" -Tony Stark, Iron Man

gooseman

  • CDT Miniatures XO
  • Global Moderator
  • Major
  • *
  • Posts: 3482
Re: Stone Rhino Gauss Rifles
« Reply #24 on: 25 August 2011, 15:13:34 »
Quote from: Mechwarriorfreak on 25 August 2011, 14:53:22
Thats what I don't like about TROs sometimes. They don't give enough information. And yeah, sarna and solaris7 are my main and only sources of my information.

Which can be problematic; neither source is canon. As I have explained to some of my players in the past, they (Solaris & Sarna) are great resources, but take the info as a point to start from, using them to show you the canon sources (e.g. TRO, Source Book, etc.)
Logged
Daoshen Liao: Wrong! Xavier! What is best in life?
Xavier McCarron: To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women.

Mechwarriorfreak

  • Lieutenant
  • *
  • Posts: 1085
  • You messed with the wrong fast food CEO.....
Re: Stone Rhino Gauss Rifles
« Reply #25 on: 25 August 2011, 15:14:33 »
Quote from: gooseman on 25 August 2011, 15:13:34

Which can be problematic; neither source is canon. As I have explained to some of my players in the past, they (Solaris & Sarna) are great resources, but take the info as a point to start from, using them to show you the canon sources (e.g. TRO, Source Book, etc.)
Players? You have players?
Logged
"Is it better to be feared, or respected? And I say, is it too much to ask for both?" -Tony Stark, Iron Man

gooseman

  • CDT Miniatures XO
  • Global Moderator
  • Major
  • *
  • Posts: 3482
Re: Stone Rhino Gauss Rifles
« Reply #26 on: 25 August 2011, 15:15:10 »
Quote from: Mechwarriorfreak on 25 August 2011, 15:13:27
I don't have the money. But I LOVE battletech regardless. Here's what we all can agree on. The Stone Rhino has two gauss rifles, two large pulse lasers, and a small pulse lasers. And it also has a 300 rated standard fusion engine.

I never thought these items were ever in doubt.
Logged
Daoshen Liao: Wrong! Xavier! What is best in life?
Xavier McCarron: To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women.

gooseman

  • CDT Miniatures XO
  • Global Moderator
  • Major
  • *
  • Posts: 3482
Re: Stone Rhino Gauss Rifles
« Reply #27 on: 25 August 2011, 15:15:43 »
Logged
Daoshen Liao: Wrong! Xavier! What is best in life?
Xavier McCarron: To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women.

Mechwarriorfreak

  • Lieutenant
  • *
  • Posts: 1085
  • You messed with the wrong fast food CEO.....
Re: Stone Rhino Gauss Rifles
« Reply #28 on: 25 August 2011, 15:16:57 »
Quote from: gooseman on 25 August 2011, 15:15:43
Sure do.
How? I'm new to this stuff. So fill me in please.
Logged
"Is it better to be feared, or respected? And I say, is it too much to ask for both?" -Tony Stark, Iron Man

gooseman

  • CDT Miniatures XO
  • Global Moderator
  • Major
  • *
  • Posts: 3482
Re: Stone Rhino Gauss Rifles
« Reply #29 on: 25 August 2011, 15:31:59 »
Quote from: Mechwarriorfreak on 25 August 2011, 15:16:57
How? I'm new to this stuff. So fill me in please.

I am a Demo Agent for CGL (Catalyst Game Labs). As such, I run games at the local game store and conventions. There is a regular group of players who come to my games.

Take a peek around here: http://www.catalystdemos.com/
Logged
Daoshen Liao: Wrong! Xavier! What is best in life?
Xavier McCarron: To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women.
Pages: [1] 2  All   Go Up
« previous next »
 

Register