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Title: Earliest Dropship mounting Capital Missiles?
Post by: Hellraiser on 13 September 2021, 11:33:36
Just like the topic says,  what is the Earliest Dropship mounting Capital Missiles?

I'm fairly certain the Overlord-A3 is the earliest post clan invasion to mount them, but, was there something earlier?

Edit, I did fine the SLDF era Mule-PWS that is earlier.

Is there anything else anyone knows about?
Title: Re: Earliest Dropship mounting Capital Missiles?
Post by: Jellico on 14 September 2021, 22:29:52
Mule. Then toss a coin for the Overlord A3 or Excalibur PWS.

The Excaliburs are listed as 3059 and served in Op Bulldog. The Overlord A3 is listed as 3058. I am not sure I buy the 3059 date as time needs to be taken to refit the Excaliburs then transport them to the Smoke Jaguar OZ.




https://www.sarna.net/wiki/Tyrannosaurus_Rex and friends.
http://www.masterunitlist.info/Unit/Details/4776/overlord-a3
http://www.masterunitlist.info/Unit/Details/4140/excalibur-pocket-warship
Title: Re: Earliest Dropship mounting Capital Missiles?
Post by: DevianID on 16 September 2021, 01:08:45
There are many undocumented capital missile refits for dropships; commonly on cargo dropships.  Thus the Mule is kind of a 'catch all' for them.  Of particular note, my favorite dropship type without a record sheet is the various 'boomer' types used by all factions in the succession wars.  These were dropships with barracuda launchers and VERY deep missile bays, used for the largest nuke payload and were what bombed every faction back 300 years tech wise.  So we know capital missile dropships were ubiquitous among the houses, not just the SLDF.
Title: Re: Earliest Dropship mounting Capital Missiles?
Post by: Kasaga on 20 September 2021, 11:00:48
I am not sure I buy the 3059 date as time needs to be taken to refit the Excaliburs then transport them to the Smoke Jaguar OZ.

I am sure its just when the first mention of them was.  I bet they were probably fielded mid 3050's following the Clan's arrival and the race to build warships.  If we work it back they probably fielded a couple as early as 3056 or so.  Who knows.  But first actions were probably during Bulldog.  Or at least that's the BS Retcon story I would come up with lol.
Title: Re: Earliest Dropship mounting Capital Missiles?
Post by: dgorsman on 25 September 2021, 14:32:43
There are many undocumented capital missile refits for dropships; commonly on cargo dropships.  Thus the Mule is kind of a 'catch all' for them.  Of particular note, my favorite dropship type without a record sheet is the various 'boomer' types used by all factions in the succession wars.  These were dropships with barracuda launchers and VERY deep missile bays, used for the largest nuke payload and were what bombed every faction back 300 years tech wise.  So we know capital missile dropships were ubiquitous among the houses, not just the SLDF.

I'm ambivalent as to whether those 'boomers' were actually equipped with dedicated launchers.  Can a DropShip actually mount enough launchers to meet the rate of fire requirements for that level of bombardment?

They may just be primed in a launch bay and dumped en masse through a cargo door en masse on 'smart palettes', like a super-sized cluster bomb, that releases them after a short delay.
Title: Re: Earliest Dropship mounting Capital Missiles?
Post by: Warship on 25 September 2021, 20:50:02
I'm ambivalent as to whether those 'boomers' were actually equipped with dedicated launchers.  Can a DropShip actually mount enough launchers to meet the rate of fire requirements for that level of bombardment?

They may just be primed in a launch bay and dumped en masse through a cargo door en masse on 'smart palettes', like a super-sized cluster bomb, that releases them after a short delay.

You realize that by using the term 'boomers' I must now search for and watch my copy of the 'Hunt for Red October'.  Strange thing, I always want to change the 'c' to a 'k' in October.  🤦‍♂️
Title: Re: Earliest Dropship mounting Capital Missiles?
Post by: VhenRa on 26 September 2021, 07:06:38
I'm ambivalent as to whether those 'boomers' were actually equipped with dedicated launchers.  Can a DropShip actually mount enough launchers to meet the rate of fire requirements for that level of bombardment?

They may just be primed in a launch bay and dumped en masse through a cargo door en masse on 'smart palettes', like a super-sized cluster bomb, that releases them after a short delay.

It was both if I recall.
Title: Re: Earliest Dropship mounting Capital Missiles?
Post by: Jellico on 26 September 2021, 07:45:47
You realize that by using the term 'boomers' I must now search for and watch my copy of the 'Hunt for Red October'.  Strange thing, I always want to change the 'c' to a 'k' in October.  🤦‍♂️

Makes me think of Rolf Harris. But you aren't allowed to do that any more.