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An insane, super-illegal exercise of MegaMekLab
« on: 19 October 2022, 18:17:41 »
I wanted to build something like an Executor-Class Super Star Destroyer.  However, BattleTech has a hard limit of 2500000 tons on warships, with the largest canon one being the Leviathan at 2400000 tons and about 1600 meters long.  Based on that, I created the Emperor-Class Battleship.  And it's all about a battle in every sense of the word, especially being able to carry multiple Galaxies of troops of all kinds, and have even more in storage to be shuttled to their deployment bays.

This is what Clan Snow Raven's Society cell has been up to  >:D  They cracked physics and made a jump-capable warship that's about 13 kilometers long and weighs nearly 19.5 megatons.  It has over six more times the armor of the Leviathan III and goes super fast!  Though to be fair the Star Wars Legends Executor ships had a maximum acceleration of over 1200 Gs, so there's that  ;D  It has a really light jump core because The Society figured out that they only have to be so big before they will just jump anything they're attached to (these are the same guys who worked with those who developed the PLOT armor and LAG shield for my BattleTech x Deadpool crossover, mind you  ^-^).

Mostly this was an exercise of how far I could push MegaMekLab.  There are literally thousands of weapons on this design.  MML calculates a cost of almost 234 billion C-Bills and a BV of 6280164.  So an OpFor better bring lots of nukes to penetrate the nearly 500 point defense guns on this ship.  Or bring Unicron. 

So MML did it, though very illegally  ;D  I tried to follow some established crew assignment rules, but took many stats from the Legends Executor ships.

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Emperor Battleship (3151)
Mass: 2,500,000 tons
Technology Base: Clan (Advanced)
Introduced: 3151
Mass: 2,500,000
Battle Value: 6,280,164
Tech Rating/Availability: F/X-X-X-F
Cost: 233,709,228,000 C-bills

Dimensions
    Length: 13000

Fuel: 80,000 tons (200,000)
Safe Thrust: 16
Maximum Thrust: 24
Sail Integrity: 9
KF Drive Integrity: 48
Heat Sinks: 200000 (400000)
Structural Integrity: 720

Armor
    Nose: 8784
    Fore Sides: 7200/7200
    Aft Sides: 6408/6408
    Aft: 4032

Cargo
    Bay 1:  Cargo (5000000.0 tons)  2 Doors   
    Bay 2:  Standard Repair Facility (Pressurized) (3,000,000)1 Door   
    Bay 3:  Small Craft (375)       5 Doors   
    Bay 4:  Fighter (1,500)         20 Doors 
    Bay 5:  Mech (750)              5 Doors   

Ammunition:
    4,836 rounds of Killer Whale ammunition (241,800 tons)

Dropship Capacity: 48
Grav Decks: 28 (250 m, 250 m, 250 m, 250 m, 250 m, 250 m, 250 m, 250 m, 250 m, 250 m, 250 m, 250 m, 250 m, 250 m, 250 m, 250 m, 250 m, 250 m, 250 m, 250 m, 250 m, 250 m, 250 m, 250 m, 250 m, 250 m, 250 m, 250 m)
Escape Pods: 9,300
Life Boats: 9,300
Crew:  1625 officers, 2675 enlisted/non-rated, 4624 gunners, 6375 bay personnel, 50000 passengers, 37500 marines, 7500 BA marines

Notes: Equipped with
    lithium-fusion battery system
    10 Mobile Hyperpulse Generators (Mobile HPG)
    1 Naval Comm-Scanner Suite (Large)
36,000 tons of lamellor ferro-carbide armor.

Weapons:                                        Capital Attack Values (Standard)
Arc (Heat)                                  Heat  SRV     MRV     LRV      ERV    Class       
Nose (22,723 Heat)
17 Capital Missile Launcher (Killer Whale)  340  68(680) 68(680) 68(680) 68(680)  Capital Missile
    Killer Whale Ammo (333 shots)
14 Capital Missile Launcher (Killer Whale)  280  56(560) 56(560) 56(560) 56(560)  Capital Missile
    Killer Whale Ammo (333 shots)
62 ER Small Pulse Laser                     186  43(434) 43(434)  0(0)     0(0)   Pulse Laser
20 Naval Laser 35                           1040 70(700) 70(700) 70(700)   0(0)   Capital Laser
11 Naval Laser 35                           1062 70(700) 70(700) 70(700) 32(315)  Capital Laser
    7 Naval Laser 45
15 Naval Laser 45                           1050 68(675) 68(675) 68(675) 68(675)  Capital Laser
15 Naval Laser 45                           1050 68(675) 68(675) 68(675) 68(675)  Capital Laser
15 Naval Laser 45                           1050 68(675) 68(675) 68(675) 68(675)  Capital Laser
15 Naval Laser 45                           1050 68(675) 68(675) 68(675) 68(675)  Capital Laser
15 Naval Laser 45                           1050 68(675) 68(675) 68(675) 68(675)  Capital Laser
15 Naval Laser 45                           1050 68(675) 68(675) 68(675) 68(675)  Capital Laser
15 Naval Laser 45                           1050 68(675) 68(675) 68(675) 68(675)  Capital Laser
15 Naval Laser 45                           1050 68(675) 68(675) 68(675) 68(675)  Capital Laser
15 Naval Laser 45                           1050 68(675) 68(675) 68(675) 68(675)  Capital Laser
15 Naval Laser 45                           1050 68(675) 68(675) 68(675) 68(675)  Capital Laser
15 Naval Laser 45                           1050 68(675) 68(675) 68(675) 68(675)  Capital Laser
15 Naval Laser 45                           1050 68(675) 68(675) 68(675) 68(675)  Capital Laser
15 Naval Laser 45                           1050 68(675) 68(675) 68(675) 68(675)  Capital Laser
15 Naval Laser 45                           1050 68(675) 68(675) 68(675) 68(675)  Capital Laser
15 Naval Laser 45                           1050 68(675) 68(675) 68(675) 68(675)  Capital Laser
15 Naval Laser 45                           1050 68(675) 68(675) 68(675) 68(675)  Capital Laser
15 Naval Laser 45                           1050 68(675) 68(675) 68(675) 68(675)  Capital Laser
12 Naval Laser 45                           840  54(540) 54(540) 54(540) 54(540)  Capital Laser
4 Naval PPC (Heavy)                         900  60(600) 60(600) 60(600) 60(600)  Capital PPC
1 Naval PPC (Heavy)                         225  15(150) 15(150) 15(150) 15(150)  Capital PPC
FRS/FLS (22,723 Heat)
17 Capital Missile Launcher (Killer Whale)  340  68(680) 68(680) 68(680) 68(680)  Capital Missile
    Killer Whale Ammo (318 shots)
14 Capital Missile Launcher (Killer Whale)  280  56(560) 56(560) 56(560) 56(560)  Capital Missile
    Killer Whale Ammo (311 shots)
62 ER Small Pulse Laser                     186  43(434) 43(434)  0(0)     0(0)   Pulse Laser
20 Naval Laser 35                           1040 70(700) 70(700) 70(700)   0(0)   Capital Laser
11 Naval Laser 35                           1062 70(700) 70(700) 70(700) 32(315)  Capital Laser
    7 Naval Laser 45
15 Naval Laser 45                           1050 68(675) 68(675) 68(675) 68(675)  Capital Laser
15 Naval Laser 45                           1050 68(675) 68(675) 68(675) 68(675)  Capital Laser
15 Naval Laser 45                           1050 68(675) 68(675) 68(675) 68(675)  Capital Laser
15 Naval Laser 45                           1050 68(675) 68(675) 68(675) 68(675)  Capital Laser
15 Naval Laser 45                           1050 68(675) 68(675) 68(675) 68(675)  Capital Laser
15 Naval Laser 45                           1050 68(675) 68(675) 68(675) 68(675)  Capital Laser
15 Naval Laser 45                           1050 68(675) 68(675) 68(675) 68(675)  Capital Laser
15 Naval Laser 45                           1050 68(675) 68(675) 68(675) 68(675)  Capital Laser
15 Naval Laser 45                           1050 68(675) 68(675) 68(675) 68(675)  Capital Laser
15 Naval Laser 45                           1050 68(675) 68(675) 68(675) 68(675)  Capital Laser
15 Naval Laser 45                           1050 68(675) 68(675) 68(675) 68(675)  Capital Laser
15 Naval Laser 45                           1050 68(675) 68(675) 68(675) 68(675)  Capital Laser
15 Naval Laser 45                           1050 68(675) 68(675) 68(675) 68(675)  Capital Laser
15 Naval Laser 45                           1050 68(675) 68(675) 68(675) 68(675)  Capital Laser
15 Naval Laser 45                           1050 68(675) 68(675) 68(675) 68(675)  Capital Laser
15 Naval Laser 45                           1050 68(675) 68(675) 68(675) 68(675)  Capital Laser
15 Naval Laser 45                           1050 68(675) 68(675) 68(675) 68(675)  Capital Laser
12 Naval Laser 45                           840  54(540) 54(540) 54(540) 54(540)  Capital Laser
4 Naval PPC (Heavy)                         900  60(600) 60(600) 60(600) 60(600)  Capital PPC
1 Naval PPC (Heavy)                         225  15(150) 15(150) 15(150) 15(150)  Capital PPC
RBS/LBS (22,863 Heat)
17 Capital Missile Launcher (Killer Whale)  340  68(680) 68(680) 68(680) 68(680)  Capital Missile
    Killer Whale Ammo (284 shots)
14 Capital Missile Launcher (Killer Whale)  280  56(560) 56(560) 56(560) 56(560)  Capital Missile
    Killer Whale Ammo (275 shots)
62 ER Small Pulse Laser                     186  43(434) 43(434)  0(0)     0(0)   Pulse Laser
20 Naval Laser 35                           1040 70(700) 70(700) 70(700)   0(0)   Capital Laser
11 Naval Laser 35                           1062 70(700) 70(700) 70(700) 32(315)  Capital Laser
    7 Naval Laser 45
15 Naval Laser 45                           1050 68(675) 68(675) 68(675) 68(675)  Capital Laser
15 Naval Laser 45                           1050 68(675) 68(675) 68(675) 68(675)  Capital Laser
15 Naval Laser 45                           1050 68(675) 68(675) 68(675) 68(675)  Capital Laser
15 Naval Laser 45                           1050 68(675) 68(675) 68(675) 68(675)  Capital Laser
15 Naval Laser 45                           1050 68(675) 68(675) 68(675) 68(675)  Capital Laser
15 Naval Laser 45                           1050 68(675) 68(675) 68(675) 68(675)  Capital Laser
15 Naval Laser 45                           1050 68(675) 68(675) 68(675) 68(675)  Capital Laser
15 Naval Laser 45                           1050 68(675) 68(675) 68(675) 68(675)  Capital Laser
15 Naval Laser 45                           1050 68(675) 68(675) 68(675) 68(675)  Capital Laser
15 Naval Laser 45                           1050 68(675) 68(675) 68(675) 68(675)  Capital Laser
15 Naval Laser 45                           1050 68(675) 68(675) 68(675) 68(675)  Capital Laser
15 Naval Laser 45                           1050 68(675) 68(675) 68(675) 68(675)  Capital Laser
15 Naval Laser 45                           1050 68(675) 68(675) 68(675) 68(675)  Capital Laser
15 Naval Laser 45                           1050 68(675) 68(675) 68(675) 68(675)  Capital Laser
15 Naval Laser 45                           1050 68(675) 68(675) 68(675) 68(675)  Capital Laser
15 Naval Laser 45                           1050 68(675) 68(675) 68(675) 68(675)  Capital Laser
15 Naval Laser 45                           1050 68(675) 68(675) 68(675) 68(675)  Capital Laser
14 Naval Laser 45                           980  63(630) 63(630) 63(630) 63(630)  Capital Laser
4 Naval PPC (Heavy)                         900  60(600) 60(600) 60(600) 60(600)  Capital PPC
1 Naval PPC (Heavy)                         225  15(150) 15(150) 15(150) 15(150)  Capital PPC
ARS/ALS (22,723 Heat)
17 Capital Missile Launcher (Killer Whale)  340  68(680) 68(680) 68(680) 68(680)  Capital Missile
    Killer Whale Ammo (301 shots)
14 Capital Missile Launcher (Killer Whale)  280  56(560) 56(560) 56(560) 56(560)  Capital Missile
    Killer Whale Ammo (295 shots)
62 ER Small Pulse Laser                     186  43(434) 43(434)  0(0)     0(0)   Pulse Laser
20 Naval Laser 35                           1040 70(700) 70(700) 70(700)   0(0)   Capital Laser
11 Naval Laser 35                           1062 70(700) 70(700) 70(700) 32(315)  Capital Laser
    7 Naval Laser 45
15 Naval Laser 45                           1050 68(675) 68(675) 68(675) 68(675)  Capital Laser
15 Naval Laser 45                           1050 68(675) 68(675) 68(675) 68(675)  Capital Laser
15 Naval Laser 45                           1050 68(675) 68(675) 68(675) 68(675)  Capital Laser
15 Naval Laser 45                           1050 68(675) 68(675) 68(675) 68(675)  Capital Laser
15 Naval Laser 45                           1050 68(675) 68(675) 68(675) 68(675)  Capital Laser
15 Naval Laser 45                           1050 68(675) 68(675) 68(675) 68(675)  Capital Laser
15 Naval Laser 45                           1050 68(675) 68(675) 68(675) 68(675)  Capital Laser
15 Naval Laser 45                           1050 68(675) 68(675) 68(675) 68(675)  Capital Laser
15 Naval Laser 45                           1050 68(675) 68(675) 68(675) 68(675)  Capital Laser
15 Naval Laser 45                           1050 68(675) 68(675) 68(675) 68(675)  Capital Laser
15 Naval Laser 45                           1050 68(675) 68(675) 68(675) 68(675)  Capital Laser
15 Naval Laser 45                           1050 68(675) 68(675) 68(675) 68(675)  Capital Laser
15 Naval Laser 45                           1050 68(675) 68(675) 68(675) 68(675)  Capital Laser
15 Naval Laser 45                           1050 68(675) 68(675) 68(675) 68(675)  Capital Laser
15 Naval Laser 45                           1050 68(675) 68(675) 68(675) 68(675)  Capital Laser
15 Naval Laser 45                           1050 68(675) 68(675) 68(675) 68(675)  Capital Laser
15 Naval Laser 45                           1050 68(675) 68(675) 68(675) 68(675)  Capital Laser
12 Naval Laser 45                           840  54(540) 54(540) 54(540) 54(540)  Capital Laser
4 Naval PPC (Heavy)                         900  60(600) 60(600) 60(600) 60(600)  Capital PPC
1 Naval PPC (Heavy)                         225  15(150) 15(150) 15(150) 15(150)  Capital PPC
Aft (22,726 Heat)
17 Capital Missile Launcher (Killer Whale)  340  68(680) 68(680) 68(680) 68(680)  Capital Missile
    Killer Whale Ammo (301 shots)
14 Capital Missile Launcher (Killer Whale)  280  56(560) 56(560) 56(560) 56(560)  Capital Missile
    Killer Whale Ammo (301 shots)
63 ER Small Pulse Laser                     189  44(441) 44(441)  0(0)     0(0)   Pulse Laser
20 Naval Laser 35                           1040 70(700) 70(700) 70(700)   0(0)   Capital Laser
11 Naval Laser 35                           1062 70(700) 70(700) 70(700) 32(315)  Capital Laser
    7 Naval Laser 45
15 Naval Laser 45                           1050 68(675) 68(675) 68(675) 68(675)  Capital Laser
15 Naval Laser 45                           1050 68(675) 68(675) 68(675) 68(675)  Capital Laser
15 Naval Laser 45                           1050 68(675) 68(675) 68(675) 68(675)  Capital Laser
15 Naval Laser 45                           1050 68(675) 68(675) 68(675) 68(675)  Capital Laser
15 Naval Laser 45                           1050 68(675) 68(675) 68(675) 68(675)  Capital Laser
15 Naval Laser 45                           1050 68(675) 68(675) 68(675) 68(675)  Capital Laser
15 Naval Laser 45                           1050 68(675) 68(675) 68(675) 68(675)  Capital Laser
15 Naval Laser 45                           1050 68(675) 68(675) 68(675) 68(675)  Capital Laser
15 Naval Laser 45                           1050 68(675) 68(675) 68(675) 68(675)  Capital Laser
15 Naval Laser 45                           1050 68(675) 68(675) 68(675) 68(675)  Capital Laser
15 Naval Laser 45                           1050 68(675) 68(675) 68(675) 68(675)  Capital Laser
15 Naval Laser 45                           1050 68(675) 68(675) 68(675) 68(675)  Capital Laser
15 Naval Laser 45                           1050 68(675) 68(675) 68(675) 68(675)  Capital Laser
15 Naval Laser 45                           1050 68(675) 68(675) 68(675) 68(675)  Capital Laser
15 Naval Laser 45                           1050 68(675) 68(675) 68(675) 68(675)  Capital Laser
15 Naval Laser 45                           1050 68(675) 68(675) 68(675) 68(675)  Capital Laser
15 Naval Laser 45                           1050 68(675) 68(675) 68(675) 68(675)  Capital Laser
12 Naval Laser 45                           840  54(540) 54(540) 54(540) 54(540)  Capital Laser
4 Naval PPC (Heavy)                         900  60(600) 60(600) 60(600) 60(600)  Capital PPC
1 Naval PPC (Heavy)                         225  15(150) 15(150) 15(150) 15(150)  Capital PPC

Quirks:  Very, very, VERY ILLEGAL, Game Table Destroyer, Nuke Magnet, Bringer of Celestial Demons
« Last Edit: 19 October 2022, 18:19:44 by BATTLEMASTER »
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Re: An insane, super-illegal exercise of MegaMekLab
« Reply #1 on: 19 October 2022, 18:19:09 »
Double-post  xp
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Re: An insane, super-illegal exercise of MegaMekLab
« Reply #2 on: 19 October 2022, 19:42:56 »
You sir are a very sick individual...I like it!

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Re: An insane, super-illegal exercise of MegaMekLab
« Reply #3 on: 22 October 2022, 09:24:04 »
How did it let you boost thrust to 16/24? ???

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Re: An insane, super-illegal exercise of MegaMekLab
« Reply #4 on: 22 October 2022, 10:00:44 »
Because megamek wants to see what 24G does to the human body. Or because she wants to allow you to paint the interior of your ship red very cheaply after all that build cost.

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Re: An insane, super-illegal exercise of MegaMekLab
« Reply #5 on: 22 October 2022, 10:29:21 »
Remember that each thrust point is 0.5G, so we're talking 12G acceleration at the most.  Still not very comfortable.

Because megamek wants to see what 24G does to the human body. Or because she wants to allow you to paint the interior of your ship red very cheaply after all that build cost.

The ship is 13 km long - can you think of an easier way to decorate the interior?   ;D

How did it let you boost thrust to 16/24? ???

MML doesn't have a hard cap on thrust like it does on allowed mass.  I have such a big power plant in order to put an otherwise impossible amount of SI and armor on the thing.  And MML went ahead and did all the math regardless!  I envision this more like a boss fight-type of unit along the lines of a mobile structure.  Space OGRE at purely capital scale if you will  :D

I really wish there was an option in MML tied with the "Unofficial" tech level that disabled all rules "safeties" and just let MML compute illegal designs as best as it can.
« Last Edit: 22 October 2022, 10:31:54 by BATTLEMASTER »
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Re: An insane, super-illegal exercise of MegaMekLab
« Reply #6 on: 22 October 2022, 10:34:11 »
A Maneuvering Drive is supposed to be 6% of the ship's mass per thrust point (StratOps: AAR, page 135), so 16 thrust should have been 96% of the ship, leaving no room for the jump core or anything else...

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Re: An insane, super-illegal exercise of MegaMekLab
« Reply #7 on: 22 October 2022, 10:49:38 »
A Maneuvering Drive is supposed to be 6% of the ship's mass per thrust point (StratOps: AAR, page 135), so 16 thrust should have been 96% of the ship, leaving no room for the jump core or anything else...

Hence the illegal quirk  ^-^
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Re: An insane, super-illegal exercise of MegaMekLab
« Reply #8 on: 22 October 2022, 11:02:48 »
All righty then!  :D