Brooklyn class Destroyer Escort

[Andras]

design revised see below

[marcussmythe]

Dropships vs Internal Storage comes down to yard space vs budget.

If youve a lavish budget and limited building yards (say IS playing catch-up with clans after clan invasion) then you want to maximize effect per ship.  That means collars.

If you have sufficient yard space to absorb all the money the govt will throw you, with room left over, you build as many ships as you can, and you make them less expensive.

[KaiserDunk]

If you're going to use two different types of launchers, at least replace the White Shark launchers with AR/10s and get the flexibility of being able to load a mix of White Shark and additional Barracuda missiles?   Also, why not a mix of Gauss Rifles and ER PPCs so the ship will always have some kind of anti-fighter capability?

Also, if the US Navy could get away with classifying nuclear-powered cruisers as DEs in the 1970s (they were re-designated as CGNs in the 1980s), then I don't see a reason why this WarShip can't be similarly so designated.

[Andras]

If you're going to use two different types of launchers, at least replace the White Shark launchers with AR/10s and get the flexibility of being able to load a mix of White Shark and additional Barracuda missiles?   Also, why not a mix of Gauss Rifles and ER PPCs so the ship will always have some kind of anti-fighter capability?

I tend to wobble between Gauss Rifles and Heavy PPCs. I like the Gauss rifles because they hit like a brick and go to long range. PPC-Hs also hit hard, but give up the extra range band for the lack of ammo.  I may investigate ERPPCs with capacitors.

I think I will take off enough cargo space to add a drop collar, it's just too useful to not have one. I can also reduce the sm-craft bays down to 2.

[Andras]

I've decided to revise this one as if I'm going to call it a Brooklyn, it better have a lot of guns, in this case 10x 70pt NAC bays (three guns each) and the HS to use them all (100% heatsink coverage.)

There's 2 NAC bays in each corner, and one in each Broadside, for a total of 5x 70pt bays that can bear on each side.

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Class/Model/Name: Brooklyn
Tech: Inner Sphere
Ship Cost: $8,913,478,964.00
Magazine Cost: $38,304,000.00
BV2: 94,801

Mass: 530,000
K-F Drive System: Compact
Power Plant: Maneuvering Drive
Safe Thrust: 3
Maximum Thrust: 5
Armor Type: Lamellor Ferro-Carbide
Armament:
20 Naval AC 20
10 Naval AC 30
24 Capital Launcher Barracuda
48 PPC ER+Cap (IS)
48 AMS (IS)

Equipment: Mass
Drive: 95,400.00
Thrust
Safe: 3
Maximum: 5
Controls: 1,325.00
K-F Hyperdrive: Compact (12 Integrity) 239,825.00
Jump Sail: (4 Integrity) 57.00
Structural Integrity: 100 53,000.00
Total Heat Sinks: 1724(3448) Double 1,243.00
Fuel & Fuel Pumps: 17000 points 6,936.00
Fire Control Computers: 0.00
Armor: 1120 pts Lamellor Ferro-Carbide 1,060.00
Fore: 170
Fore-Left/Right: 180/180
Aft-Left/Right: 180/180
Aft: 170

Dropship Capacity: 3 3,000.00
Grav Decks:
Small: 0 0.00
Medium: 2 200.00
Large: 0.00
Escape Pods: 18 126.00
Life Boats: 18 126.00

Crew And Passengers:
37 Officers in 1st Class Quarters 370.00
114 Crew in 2nd Class Quarters 798.00
62 Gunners and Others in 2nd Class Quarters 434.00
152 Bay Personnel 0.00
152 Steerage Passengers 760.00
(Bay Pers in Steerage)

# Weapons Loc Heat Damage Range Mass
4 Naval AC 20 FR 240 800 (80-C) Long-C 10,000.00
2 Naval AC 30 FR 200 600 (60-C) Long-C 7,000.00
4 Naval AC 20 FL 240 800 (80-C) Long-C 10,000.00
2 Naval AC 30 FL 200 600 (60-C) Long-C 7,000.00
2 Naval AC 20 RBS 120 400 (40-C) Long-C 5,000.00
1 Naval AC 30 RBS 100 300 (30-C) Long-C 3,500.00
2 Naval AC 20 LBS 120 400 (40-C) Long-C 5,000.00
1 Naval AC 30 LBS 100 300 (30-C) Long-C 3,500.00
4 Naval AC 20 AR 240 800 (80-C) Long-C 10,000.00
2 Naval AC 30 AR 200 600 (60-C) Long-C 7,000.00
4 Naval AC 20 AL 240 800 (80-C) Long-C 10,000.00
2 Naval AC 30 AL 200 600 (60-C) Long-C 7,000.00
6 Capital Launcher Barracuda FR 60 120 (12-C) Extreme-C 540.00
6 Capital Launcher Barracuda FL 60 120 (12-C) Extreme-C 540.00
6 Capital Launcher Barracuda AR 60 120 (12-C) Extreme-C 540.00
6 Capital Launcher Barracuda AL 60 120 (12-C) Extreme-C 540.00
8 PPC ER+Cap (IS) Nose 160 120 (12-C) Long 64.00
8 PPC ER+Cap (IS) FR 160 120 (12-C) Long 64.00
8 PPC ER+Cap (IS) FL 160 120 (12-C) Long 64.00
8 PPC ER+Cap (IS) AR 160 120 (12-C) Long 64.00
8 PPC ER+Cap (IS) AL 160 120 (12-C) Long 64.00
8 PPC ER+Cap (IS) Aft 160 120 (12-C) Long 64.00
12 AMS (IS) Nose 12 36 (3.6-C) PDS 6.00
12 AMS (IS) RBS 12 36 (3.6-C) PDS 6.00
12 AMS (IS) LBS 12 36 (3.6-C) PDS 6.00
12 AMS (IS) Aft 12 36 (3.6-C) PDS 6.00

Ammo Rounds Mass
Naval AC 20 Ammo 600 240.00
Naval AC 30 Ammo 300 240.00
Capital Launcher Barracuda Ammo 288 8,640.00
AMS (IS) Ammo 2844 237.00

Other
24 Fighters
4 Small Craft
3 platoons infantry
24kt cargo


[KaiserDunk]

Interesting mix for the anti-WarShip loadout, though as to anti-fighter defense I prefer a mix of energy and ballistic weapons for the trade-off between heat generated vs ammunition dependency.   With the relatively slow overall speed, is this DE supposed to act as a defender for the big boys or defend convoys?

[Andras]

With the relatively slow overall speed, is this DE supposed to act as a defender for the big boys or defend convoys?

I deleted that part from the OP when I edited it, it's a transport dropship escort by intent.

I could make it a 4/6 but I'd have to kick the tonnage to at least 650k, making it a Frigate or Light Cruiser.

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Class/Model/Name: Brooklyn
Tech: Inner Sphere
Ship Cost: $9,547,908,004.00
Magazine Cost: $38,304,000.00
BV2: 104,494

Mass: 650,000
K-F Drive System: Compact
Power Plant: Maneuvering Drive
Safe Thrust: 4
Maximum Thrust: 6
Armor Type: Lamellor Ferro-Carbide
Armament:
20 Naval AC 20
10 Naval AC 30
24 Capital Launcher Barracuda
48 PPC ER+Cap (IS)
48 AMS (IS)

Ammo Rounds Mass
Naval AC 20 Ammo 600 240.00
Naval AC 30 Ammo 300 240.00
Capital Launcher Barracuda Ammo 288 8,640.00
AMS (IS) Ammo 2400 200.00

Equipment: Mass
Drive: 156,000.00
Thrust
Safe: 4
Maximum: 6
Controls: 1,625.00
K-F Hyperdrive: Compact (14 Integrity) 294,125.00
Jump Sail: (5 Integrity) 63.00
Structural Integrity: 90 58,500.00
Total Heat Sinks: 1724(3448) Double 1,121.00
Fuel & Fuel Pumps: 17000 points 6,936.00
Fire Control Computers: 0.00
Armor: 1224 pts Lamellor Ferro-Carbide 1,170.00
Fore: 204
Fore-Left/Right: 204/204
Aft-Left/Right: 204/204
Aft: 204

Dropship Capacity: 3 3,000.00
Grav Decks:
Small: 0 0.00
Medium: 2 200.00
Large: 0.00
Escape Pods: 18 126.00
Life Boats: 18 126.00

Crew And Passengers:
41 Officers in 1st Class Quarters 410.00
134 Crew in Steerage Quarters 670.00
62 Gunners and Others in Steerage Quarters 310.00
142 Bay Personnel 0.00
0 1st Class Passengers 0.00
2nd Class Passengers 0.00
142 Steerage Passengers 710.00

24 Fighters
2 Small Craft
3 Infantry Platoons.