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General War AU: Pre-Dreadnoughts
« on: 29 June 2022, 02:11:15 »
Strictly Speaking a misnomer, as most if not all of these ships were actually constructed after TAS Dreadnought, pre-dreadnought combat jumpships were well on their way to extinction well before the Malagrotta war, with at best a few dozen examples known to still be in operable condition by 2575. In their entirety, these few survivors were generally kept as far away from front line duty as possible, serving as training vessels, depot or tender ships, or in rare cases as patrol craft in low threat areas (or, in the case of the Free Worlds League, serving with provincial navies). It was only after the Malagrotta War that the Great Houses began to take a second look at these ancient ships as a way to bulk up their numbers, if not necessarily their overall capabilities.

Type 51 class Gunboat: The most common pre-dreadnoughts still in service, the Type 51 was in its heyday common all across the Inner Sphere, as it was a relatively tough, powerful ship for its size. As many as a dozen are known to be in service with the Taurian Navy, assigned as support ship for SASF units spread throughout the Hyades, though every other power could, in a pinch, scrape up a handful in semi-operable condition. Though considered obsolete, the same factors that made it popular in the past remain more or less true. The Type 51 even today is both tough and fairly powerful for its small size, as well as simple and reliable to operate even in regions with limited spaceborn infrastructure. This has already spurred the Capellan Confederation to begin preparations to build new Type 51s, a move quickly followed in the Magistracy of Canopus, with the Taurian Concordat and Free Worlds League contemplating the feasibility of doing the same.

Dahlgren class System Defense Ship: One of the very last of the pre-dreadnought designs, the Dahlgren is notable for the heavy punch of its four main guns and little else. Lacking maneuverability or reach to really fight an opponent unless that opponent consents to engage at brawling range, the four remaining ships have survived in Capellan service mostly through anonymity, though their posting to worlds close to the Taurian frontier puts their continued survival in doubt.

Hanako class Patrol Ship: An early Combine design, present examples are confined to the periphery, with a pair operated by the Magistracy of Canopus as training ships, and another three presently located in the Rim Worlds Republic in a non-operable state. Though possessing superior jump range to the smaller gunboats, the Hanako's limited firepower and fairly average protection made it a fairly unimpressive design even in its heyday.

Crucis class Escort Cruiser: smaller than a modern day corvette, the Federated Suns retains three of these ships as training vessels. With the Federated Sun in the midst of a massive naval expansion, these ships are in almost constant operation in their training duties, despite their advanced age. Engineering cadets in particular consider the ships their toughest professors, given the tremendous workload they face keeping the ships in operation.

Picket Series Destroyer: Alongside the Type 51, the Picket was heavily exported by the Terran Hegemony to the Great Houses during the 24th and 25th century. Unlike the Type 51, however, the class is virtually extinct in the present day, with only five confirmed to still be in service as of 2575, two as part of the Magistracy of Canopus's reserve fleet, and three others assigned to the Hyades fleet of the Taurian Concordat. A sixth ship, bearing unknown markings, has been reported in the Outworlds Alliance, where it has been allegedly targeting shipping supporting Combine Peacekeepers stationed there. The Combine alleges that the Federated Suns is backing the ship, along with other insurgent groups active in the Alliance, though the Federated Suns denies the claim.

Saint Barbara class Heavy Cruiser: Allegedly named for the Patron Saint of Naval Artillery, the Saint Barbara primarily served as a territorial defense ship in the Lyran Commonwealth's Isle of Skye. The sole survivor of the class maintains that duty, having been permanently stationed over Skye itself. Though normally seen as a museum ship, and possibly stranded in the system due to micro-cracking in its ancient jump drive, the ship is still listed as a combat vessel, and remains as operational as its crew can manage.

Xing Ying class Cruiser: Once the flagship combat vessel of the St Ives Mercantile Association and a major component of the early Capellan Navy, a single Xing Ying remains as a museum ship over St Ives. As of late, the Confederation has allocated considerable funds to restoring the ship to peak functionality, officially as a tribute to St Ives' role in the confederation, but possibly also to ensure that the ship is available as a naval auxiliary if necessary.

Excalibur class Cruiser: Once the main line ship of the Federated Peace Keeping Force, the sole remaining Excalibur class ship survives today as a calculated insult to the Federated Suns. This ship, the Percival, was captured by the Taurian Concordat in the late 24th century, and has remained in service with the TDF as a depot and tender ship ever since. During the buildup to the Malagrotta war, the Percival was even moved close to the front lines to act as a support ship, and after the signing of the Malagrotta treaty, the ship was moved to Malagrotta to serve as a guard ship and supply depot, where she remains to this day.

Typhoon class Battleship: The last pre-dreadnoughts built by the Free Worlds League, as well as some of the largest ever built, the Typhoon entered service too late to have a particularly successful career and were being shifted to reserve only a couple decades after being laid down. Due to the ship's shear size and the scrap value of its core, no examples survive in League service, however four ships were sold to the Taurian Concordat and Rim Worlds Republic at the dawn of the century. Of these, the two Taurian vessels are reportedly still in service as the centerpiece of the Hyades fleet, while the two Rim Worlds hulls had to be removed from service after only a few decades. Though on the rolls as a depot ship and a receiving ship respectively, both ships are believed to be virtually abandoned derelicts.

(Record sheets for these ships are attached)
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Re: General War AU: Pre-Dreadnoughts
« Reply #1 on: 29 June 2022, 05:00:56 »
These sound cool
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Re: General War AU: Pre-Dreadnoughts
« Reply #2 on: 29 June 2022, 18:24:48 »
Excellent fluff as usual Liam!  :thumbsup:

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Re: General War AU: Pre-Dreadnoughts
« Reply #3 on: 02 July 2022, 21:23:00 »
This really cool

Is this variation of your book, the Big Book of Primitive JumpShips?
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Re: General War AU: Pre-Dreadnoughts
« Reply #4 on: 07 July 2022, 00:55:30 »
All of the ships except the Dahlgren (which is new) came from that book, yes.

Eventually I intend to have everything for this setting compiled into a single source, too.
Good news is the lab boys say the symptoms of asbestos poisoning show an immediate latency of 44.6 years. So if you're thirty or over you're laughing. Worst case scenario you miss out on a few rounds of canasta, plus you've forwarded the cause of science by three centuries. I punch those numbers into my calculator, it makes a happy face.

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Re: General War AU: Pre-Dreadnoughts
« Reply #5 on: 07 July 2022, 04:23:59 »
Fantastic!  I look forward to it!  :thumbsup:

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Re: General War AU: Pre-Dreadnoughts
« Reply #6 on: 10 July 2022, 20:16:07 »
Same
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Re: General War AU: Pre-Dreadnoughts
« Reply #7 on: 12 July 2022, 07:07:18 »
That's great!
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