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Cannonshop

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Just for funzies...
« on: 26 February 2023, 12:45:19 »
RFP for the Draconis Combine

Vessel may not exceed 240,000 tons

Vessel may not mount armament larger than sub-capital weapons

Vessel must be Jump Capable.

Vessel must be capable of defeating up to 3 Mule PWS in combat.

Vessel must have a cruise duration of no less than 18 months between refueling/restocking stops.

Vessel must be as inexpensively built as practical.

The envisioned role is for a long-duration, deep penetration picket and raider type vessel  with a secondary role as an escort ship for larger vessels or convoy escort for mid to large scale offensive landing operations.
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Daryk

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Re: Just for funzies...
« Reply #1 on: 26 February 2023, 14:49:38 »
Right then... White Shark Launchers, AAA and Point Defense weapons it is...  ^-^
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Re: Just for funzies...
« Reply #2 on: 26 February 2023, 16:21:04 »
Quote from: Daryk on 26 February 2023, 14:49:38
Right then... White Shark Launchers, AAA and Point Defense weapons it is...  ^-^

no because its not allowed anything heavier than sub-cap weapons

you've really thrown me a hard one here CS, have to think on it for a bit, any requested thrust profile?
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Cannonshop

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Re: Just for funzies...
« Reply #3 on: 26 February 2023, 16:31:08 »
Quote from: wolfgar on 26 February 2023, 16:21:04
no because its not allowed anything heavier than sub-cap weapons

you've really thrown me a hard one here CS, have to think on it for a bit, any requested thrust profile?

something that strikes you as reasonable for the role.
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Re: Just for funzies...
« Reply #4 on: 26 February 2023, 16:44:16 »
I'm sure you can fit some nuke or other on a sub-cap missile...  ^-^
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Re: Just for funzies...
« Reply #5 on: 26 February 2023, 17:38:06 »
My take on an Inazuma Mk. II.  Conventional weapons left in place, single AMS upgraded to triple Laser AMS, naval PPCs swapped for banks of SCLs, and NACs swapped for SCCs.  Thrust remains 5/8, fuel bunker remains 5000 tons but, with 18000 tons of cargo, it's easy enough to carry supplemental fuel and supplies for over 18 months cruising.

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Inazuma Corvettei Block II
Mass: 200,000 tons
Technology Base: Inner Sphere (Advanced)
Introduced: 3095
Mass: 200,000
Battle Value: 30,670
Tech Rating/Availability: E/X-X-F-F
Cost: 7,285,994,000 C-bills

Fuel: 5,000 tons (25,000)
Safe Thrust: 5
Maximum Thrust: 8
Sail Integrity: 3
KF Drive Integrity: 6
Heat Sinks: 891 (1782)
Structural Integrity: 46

Armor
    Nose: 30
    Fore Sides: 30/30
    Aft Sides: 30/30
    Aft: 27

Cargo
    Bay 1:  Fighter (6)             3 Doors   
    Bay 2:  Small Craft (2)         1 Door   
    Bay 3:  Cargo (18109.5 tons)    1 Door   

Ammunition:
    1,400 rounds of Light SCC ammunition (700 tons)

Dropship Capacity: 0
Grav Decks: 1 (75 m)
Escape Pods: 12
Life Boats: 12
Crew:  27 officers, 72 enlisted/non-rated, 67 gunners, 22 bay personnel

Notes: Equipped with
    lithium-fusion battery system
    1 Naval Comm-Scanner Suite (Small)
184 tons of improved ferro-aluminum armor.

Weapons:                          Capital Attack Values (Standard)
Arc (Heat)                    Heat  SRV     MRV     LRV      ERV    Class       
Nose (373 Heat)
3 Laser AMS                   21    1(9)    0(0)    0(0)     0(0)   AMS         
10 ER Large Laser             120  8(80)   8(80)   8(80)     0(0)   Laser       
4 PPC                         40   4(40)   4(40)    0(0)     0(0)   PPC         
4 Sub-Capital Laser /1        96   4(40)   4(40)   4(40)     0(0)   Sub-Capital Laser
4 Sub-Capital Laser /1        96   4(40)   4(40)   4(40)     0(0)   Sub-Capital Laser
FRS/FLS (165 Heat)
3 Laser AMS                   21    1(9)    0(0)    0(0)     0(0)   AMS         
8 ER Large Laser              96   6(64)   6(64)   6(64)     0(0)   Laser       
4 Sub-Capital Cannon (Light)  48   8(80)   8(80)   8(80)     0(0)   Sub-Capital Cannon
    Light SCC Ammo (200 shots)
RBS/LBS (300 Heat)
6 PPC                         60   6(60)   6(60)    0(0)     0(0)   PPC         
4 Sub-Capital Laser /1        96   4(40)   4(40)   4(40)     0(0)   Sub-Capital Laser
4 Sub-Capital Laser /1        96   4(40)   4(40)   4(40)     0(0)   Sub-Capital Laser
4 Sub-Capital Cannon (Light)  48   8(80)   8(80)   8(80)     0(0)   Sub-Capital Cannon
    Light SCC Ammo (200 shots)
ARS/ALS (165 Heat)
3 Laser AMS                   21    1(9)    0(0)    0(0)     0(0)   AMS         
8 ER Large Laser              96   6(64)   6(64)   6(64)     0(0)   Laser       
4 Sub-Capital Cannon (Light)  48   8(80)   8(80)   8(80)     0(0)   Sub-Capital Cannon
    Light SCC Ammo (200 shots)
Aft (205 Heat)
3 Laser AMS                   21    1(9)    0(0)    0(0)     0(0)   AMS         
4 PPC                         40   4(40)   4(40)    0(0)     0(0)   PPC         
4 Sub-Capital Laser /1        96   4(40)   4(40)   4(40)     0(0)   Sub-Capital Laser
4 Sub-Capital Cannon (Light)  48   8(80)   8(80)   8(80)     0(0)   Sub-Capital Cannon
    Light SCC Ammo (200 shots)

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Vehrec

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Re: Just for funzies...
« Reply #6 on: 28 February 2023, 22:39:27 »
I still maintain that a dropship and PWS are more effective in this sort of role.  Still, I've designed a...thing.  About half the listed maximum weight, loaded down with cheap AMS systems because look, all you need to do is make sure the enemy can never hit you with a PWS' missile armaments.

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Chidori Patrol Ship
Mass: 120,000 tons
Technology Base: Inner Sphere (Advanced)
Introduced: 3145
Mass: 120,000
Battle Value: 17,331
Tech Rating/Availability: E/X-X-X-F
Cost: 3,987,490,000 C-bills

Fuel: 11,000 tons (55,000)
Safe Thrust: 4
Maximum Thrust: 6
Sail Integrity: 3
KF Drive Integrity: 5
Heat Sinks: 485
Structural Integrity: 40

Armor
    Nose: 21
    Fore Sides: 18/18
    Aft Sides: 16/16
    Aft: 11

Cargo
    Bay 1:  Small Craft (2)         1 Door   
    Bay 2:  Fighter (10)            2 Doors   
    Bay 3:  Cargo (10073.0 tons)    1 Door   

Ammunition:
    960 rounds of Anti-Missile System [IS] ammunition (8 tons),
    240 rounds of Light SCC ammunition (3 tons),
    66 rounds of Piranha ammunition (660 tons)

Dropship Capacity: 0
Grav Decks: 1 (100 m)
Escape Pods: 0
Life Boats: 0
Crew:  28 officers, 41 enlisted/non-rated, 42 gunners, 30 bay personnel

Notes: Mounts 96 tons of standard aerospace armor.

Weapons:                                       Capital Attack Values (Standard)
Arc (Heat)                                 Heat  SRV     MRV     LRV      ERV    Class       
Nose (32 Heat)
3 Sub-Capital Missile Launcher (Piranha)   27   9(90)   9(90)   9(90)     0(0)   Sub-Capital Missile
    Piranha Ammo (33 shots)
5 Anti-Missile System                       5   2(15)    0(0)    0(0)     0(0)   AMS         
    Anti-Missile System Ammo [IS] (120 shots)
FRS/FLS (125 Heat)
2 Sub-Capital Cannon (Light)               24   4(40)   4(40)   4(40)     0(0)   Sub-Capital Cannon
    Light SCC Ammo (40 shots)
4 Sub-Capital Laser (SCL/1)                96   4(40)   4(40)   4(40)     0(0)   Sub-Capital Laser
5 Anti-Missile System                       5   2(15)    0(0)    0(0)     0(0)   AMS         
    Anti-Missile System Ammo [IS] (120 shots)
RBS/LBS (125 Heat)
2 Sub-Capital Cannon (Light)               24   4(40)   4(40)   4(40)     0(0)   Sub-Capital Cannon
    Light SCC Ammo (40 shots)
4 Sub-Capital Laser (SCL/1)                96   4(40)   4(40)   4(40)     0(0)   Sub-Capital Laser
5 Anti-Missile System                       5   2(15)    0(0)    0(0)     0(0)   AMS         
    Anti-Missile System Ammo [IS] (120 shots)
ARS/ALS (125 Heat)
2 Sub-Capital Cannon (Light)               24   4(40)   4(40)   4(40)     0(0)   Sub-Capital Cannon
    Light SCC Ammo (40 shots)
4 Sub-Capital Laser (SCL/1)                96   4(40)   4(40)   4(40)     0(0)   Sub-Capital Laser
5 Anti-Missile System                       5   2(15)    0(0)    0(0)     0(0)   AMS         
    Anti-Missile System Ammo [IS] (120 shots)
Aft (32 Heat)
3 Sub-Capital Missile Launcher (Piranha)   27   9(90)   9(90)   9(90)     0(0)   Sub-Capital Missile
    Piranha Ammo (33 shots)
5 Anti-Missile System                       5   2(15)    0(0)    0(0)     0(0)   AMS         
    Anti-Missile System Ammo [IS] (120 shots)


ETA: Oh my god it's morning and I've realized how badly under-equipped this thing is to have actual immunity to Mule PWS fire.  I don't need 4-5 AMS to neutralize Killer whale fire, I think I need 16-48 depending on if I expect to take all the waves in the same arc.  I'm still not using Laser AMS because heat and expense.

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Chidori II Patrol Ship
Mass: 120,000 tons
Technology Base: Inner Sphere (Advanced)
Introduced: 3070
Mass: 120,000
Battle Value: 21,132
Tech Rating/Availability: E/X-X-F-F
Cost: 4,005,088,000 C-bills

Fuel: 11,000 tons (55,000)
Safe Thrust: 4
Maximum Thrust: 6
Sail Integrity: 3
KF Drive Integrity: 5
Heat Sinks: 485
Structural Integrity: 40

Armor
    Nose: 21
    Fore Sides: 18/18
    Aft Sides: 16/16
    Aft: 11

Cargo
    Bay 1:  Small Craft (2)         1 Door   
    Bay 2:  Fighter (10)            1 Door   
    Bay 3:  Cargo (9216.0 tons)     1 Door   

Ammunition:
    3,072 rounds of Anti-Missile System [IS] ammunition (8 tons),
    144 rounds of Light SCC ammunition (3 tons),
    60 rounds of Piranha ammunition (310 tons)

Dropship Capacity: 0
Grav Decks: 1 (100 m)
Escape Pods: 0
Life Boats: 0
Crew:  28 officers, 41 enlisted/non-rated, 42 gunners, 30 bay personnel

Notes: Mounts 95 tons of standard aerospace armor.

Weapons:                                       Capital Attack Values (Standard)
Arc (Heat)                                 Heat  SRV     MRV     LRV      ERV    Class       
Nose (43 Heat)
3 Sub-Capital Missile Launcher (Piranha)   27   9(90)   9(90)   9(90)     0(0)   Sub-Capital Missile
    Piranha Ammo (30 shots)
16 Anti-Missile System                     16   5(48)    0(0)    0(0)     0(0)   AMS         
    Anti-Missile System Ammo [IS] (384 shots)
FRS/FLS (136 Heat)
2 Sub-Capital Cannon (Light)               24   4(40)   4(40)   4(40)     0(0)   Sub-Capital Cannon
    Light SCC Ammo (24 shots)
4 Sub-Capital Laser (SCL/1)                96   4(40)   4(40)   4(40)     0(0)   Sub-Capital Laser
16 Anti-Missile System                     16   5(48)    0(0)    0(0)     0(0)   AMS         
    Anti-Missile System Ammo [IS] (384 shots)
RBS/LBS (136 Heat)
2 Sub-Capital Cannon (Light)               24   4(40)   4(40)   4(40)     0(0)   Sub-Capital Cannon
    Light SCC Ammo (24 shots)
4 Sub-Capital Laser (SCL/1)                96   4(40)   4(40)   4(40)     0(0)   Sub-Capital Laser
16 Anti-Missile System                     16   5(48)    0(0)    0(0)     0(0)   AMS         
    Anti-Missile System Ammo [IS] (384 shots)
ARS/ALS (136 Heat)
2 Sub-Capital Cannon (Light)               24   4(40)   4(40)   4(40)     0(0)   Sub-Capital Cannon
    Light SCC Ammo (24 shots)
4 Sub-Capital Laser (SCL/1)                96   4(40)   4(40)   4(40)     0(0)   Sub-Capital Laser
16 Anti-Missile System                     16   5(48)    0(0)    0(0)     0(0)   AMS         
    Anti-Missile System Ammo [IS] (384 shots)
Aft (43 Heat)
3 Sub-Capital Missile Launcher (Piranha)   27   9(90)   9(90)   9(90)     0(0)   Sub-Capital Missile
    Piranha Ammo (30 shots)
16 Anti-Missile System                     16   5(48)    0(0)    0(0)     0(0)   AMS         
    Anti-Missile System Ammo [IS] (384 shots)


And for True All-Around Immunity...

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Chidori III Patrol Ship
Mass: 120,000 tons
Technology Base: Inner Sphere (Advanced)
Introduced: 3070
Mass: 120,000
Battle Value: 32,192
Tech Rating/Availability: E/X-X-F-F
Cost: 4,056,288,000 C-bills

Fuel: 11,000 tons (55,000)
Safe Thrust: 4
Maximum Thrust: 6
Sail Integrity: 3
KF Drive Integrity: 5
Heat Sinks: 485
Structural Integrity: 40

Armor
    Nose: 21
    Fore Sides: 18/18
    Aft Sides: 16/16
    Aft: 11

Cargo
    Bay 1:  Small Craft (2)         1 Door   
    Bay 2:  Fighter (10)            1 Door   
    Bay 3:  Cargo (7822.0 tons)     1 Door   

Ammunition:
    9,216 rounds of Anti-Missile System [IS] ammunition (768 tons),
    144 rounds of Light SCC ammunition (72 tons),
    60 rounds of Piranha ammunition (600 tons)

Dropship Capacity: 0
Grav Decks: 1 (100 m)
Escape Pods: 0
Life Boats: 0
Crew:  28 officers, 41 enlisted/non-rated, 42 gunners, 30 bay personnel

Notes: Mounts 95 tons of standard aerospace armor.

Weapons:                                        Capital Attack Values (Standard)
Arc (Heat)                                  Heat  SRV     MRV     LRV      ERV    Class       
Nose (75 Heat)
3 Sub-Capital Missile Launcher (Piranha)    27   9(90)   9(90)   9(90)     0(0)   Sub-Capital Missile
    Piranha Ammo (30 shots)
48 Anti-Missile System                      48   14(144)  0(0)    0(0)     0(0)   AMS         
    Anti-Missile System Ammo [IS] (1152 shots)
FRS/FLS (168 Heat)
2 Sub-Capital Cannon (Light)                24   4(40)   4(40)   4(40)     0(0)   Sub-Capital Cannon
    Light SCC Ammo (24 shots)
4 Sub-Capital Laser (SCL/1)                 96   4(40)   4(40)   4(40)     0(0)   Sub-Capital Laser
48 Anti-Missile System                      48   14(144)  0(0)    0(0)     0(0)   AMS         
    Anti-Missile System Ammo [IS] (1152 shots)
RBS/LBS (168 Heat)
2 Sub-Capital Cannon (Light)                24   4(40)   4(40)   4(40)     0(0)   Sub-Capital Cannon
    Light SCC Ammo (24 shots)
4 Sub-Capital Laser (SCL/1)                 96   4(40)   4(40)   4(40)     0(0)   Sub-Capital Laser
48 Anti-Missile System                      48   14(144)  0(0)    0(0)     0(0)   AMS         
    Anti-Missile System Ammo [IS] (1152 shots)
ARS/ALS (168 Heat)
2 Sub-Capital Cannon (Light)                24   4(40)   4(40)   4(40)     0(0)   Sub-Capital Cannon
    Light SCC Ammo (24 shots)
4 Sub-Capital Laser (SCL/1)                 96   4(40)   4(40)   4(40)     0(0)   Sub-Capital Laser
48 Anti-Missile System                      48   14(144)  0(0)    0(0)     0(0)   AMS         
    Anti-Missile System Ammo [IS] (1152 shots)
Aft (75 Heat)
3 Sub-Capital Missile Launcher (Piranha)    27   9(90)   9(90)   9(90)     0(0)   Sub-Capital Missile
    Piranha Ammo (30 shots)
48 Anti-Missile System                      48   14(144)  0(0)    0(0)     0(0)   AMS         
    Anti-Missile System Ammo [IS] (1152 shots)

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