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PuppyLikesLaserPointers

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Request: Aerospace Fighter with XXL engine?
« on: 06 April 2022, 12:53:03 »
Well, I just need some examples to help me to get the feeling on this. So can you give me some?

The rule is simple - make an aerospace fighter with XXL engine, and does not care for the cost, you may pick every era and also use either IS, Clans or even mixed tech. Use whatever prototypes if you wishes, although I doubt that there are any useful prototype components for an ASF. Just make the best one what you think, depend on the roles - (fast)dogfighter/interceptor, attacker, bomber, or fire support.

I don't think that Small Cockpit is something useful, but if you think that the ASF was developed by either Clans or WoB and intended to be used by the pilots with (D)NI, just go ahead.

But you need to remember that XXL engine generates 2 heats by default, 4 heats on safe thrust, and 6 heats on maximum thrust. So I recommend that the design should keep it cool while you don't speed it up to the maximum thrust and initiate alpha strike on at least one range bracket and front side. Volley fire is not recommended unless the fighter has either Coolant Pod or Radical Heat Sink to shoot everything it got when they had the chance to do while keep it cool.

Anyway, please make the best one what you think, and actually the only hard rule is use an Extra-Extralight Fusion Engine.

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Re: Request: Aerospace Fighter with XXL engine?
« Reply #1 on: 17 April 2022, 20:13:20 »
XXL engines typically see use as speed boosts. The Picaroon is a sledgehammer wrapped in a fairly tough shell, but it could use more ability to turn and burn. Fortunately it has cooling to spare:
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Picaroon (XXL)

Mass: 35 tons
Frame: Unknown
Power Plant: 280 XXL
Cruising Speed: 108 kph
Maximum Speed: 162 kph
Armor: Heavy Ferro-Aluminum
Armament:
     1 Heavy PPC
Manufacturer: Unknown
     Primary Factory: Unknown
Communication System: Unknown
Targeting & Tracking System: Unknown
Introduction Year: 3145
Technology Base: Inner Sphere (Experimental)
Tech Rating/Availability: F/X-X-X-E
Cost: 17,049,857 C-bills
Battle Value: 1,437

Equipment                                Mass
Engine                        280 XXL     5.5
Safe Thrust: 10
Max Thrust: 15
Structural Integrity:         0             
Heat Sinks:                   10 [20]     0
Fuel:                         400         5.0
Cockpit                                   3
Armor Factor (Heavy Ferro)    228        11.5

                           Armor
                           Value
     Nose                    75
     Wings                 54/54
     Aft                     45

Weapons
and Ammo              Location   Tonnage  Heat   SRV  MRV
Heavy PPC               NOS       10.0     15    15   15
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Re: Request: Aerospace Fighter with XXL engine?
« Reply #2 on: 18 April 2022, 22:01:41 »
did a Vulcan for you

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Vulcan VLC-5XXL

Mass: 80 tons
Frame: Unknown
Power Plant: 240 XXL
Cruising Speed: 54 kph
Maximum Speed: 86.4 kph
Armor: Heavy Ferro-Aluminum
Armament:
     2 Ultra AC/10
     1 Large Pulse Laser
     1 SRM 6
     2 Medium Pulse Laser
Manufacturer: Unknown
     Primary Factory: Unknown
Communication System: Unknown
Targeting & Tracking System: Unknown
Introduction Year: 3145
Tech Rating/Availability: F/X-X-X-E
Cost: 39,205,320 C-bills

Type: Vulcan
Technology Base: Inner Sphere (Experimental)
Tonnage: 80
Battle Value: 1,909

Equipment                                          Mass
Engine                        240 XXL                 4
Safe Thrust: 5
Max Thrust: 8
Structural Integrity:         8                       
Heat Sinks:                   19 [38]                 9
Fuel:                         400                   5.0
Cockpit                                               3
Armor Factor (Heavy Ferro)    297                    15

                           Armor   
                           Value   
     Nose                    80   
     Wings                 75/75   
     Aft                     67   


Weapons
and Ammo                Location   Tonnage  Heat   SRV  MRV  LRV  ERV
Ultra AC/10               RWG       13.0     4     15   15    0    0 
Large Pulse Laser         NOS       7.0      10     9    9    0    0 
Medium Pulse Laser        NOS       2.0      4      6    0    0    0 
SRM 6                     NOS       3.0      4      8    0    0    0 
Ultra AC/10 Ammo (30)     FSLG      3.0      -      -    -    -    - 
SRM 6 Ammo (15)           FSLG      1.0      -      -    -    -    - 
Ultra AC/10               LWG       13.0     4     15   15    0    0 
Medium Pulse Laser        AFT       2.0      4      6    0    0    0 


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Re: Request: Aerospace Fighter with XXL engine?
« Reply #3 on: 21 April 2022, 10:13:15 »
Picaroon is very durable for its light weight. Perhaps it is even durable than many heavy fighters! With its good speed, I think that it would be the tough opponent to face.

The Vulcan seems the modernized 5N, is it? You did very well to upgrade those weapons while keep its look.

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Re: Request: Aerospace Fighter with XXL engine?
« Reply #4 on: 23 April 2022, 22:01:39 »
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                    AeroTech 2 Vessel Technical Readout
                                  VALIDATED

Class/Model/Name:  TR-5G Harpy
Tech:              Inner Sphere / 3067
Vessel Type:       Aerospace Fighter
Rules:             Level 3, Standard design
Rules Set:         AeroTech2

Mass:              35 tons
Length:            14 meters
Power Plant:       *XXL Fusion*
Safe Thrust:       11
Maximum Thrust:    17
Armor Type:        *Refective*
Armament:         
    2 Large Pulse Laser
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
==Capabilities:==
Easy to Pilot 2

Difficult Ejection -1


------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Class/Model/Name:  TR-5G Harpy
Mass:              35 tons
Construction Options:  Fractional Accounting

Equipment:                                                              Mass
Power Plant:  *XXL Fusion*                                               7.16
Thrust:  Safe Thrust: 11  (10 at max bomb load)
      Maximum Thrust: 17  (15 at max bomb load)
Structural Integrity: 11                                                  .00
Total Heat Sinks:    13 Double                                           3.00
Fuel:                                                                    3.00
Cockpit & Attitude Thrusters:                                            3.00
Armor Type:  *Refective*  (77 total armor pts)                           4.81
                           Standard Scale Armor Pts
   Location:                            L / R
   Nose:                                 21
   Left/Right Wings:                  21/21
   Aft:                                  14

Weapons and Equipment      Loc        SRV    MRV    LRV    ERV  Heat    Mass
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2 Large Pulse Laser        Nose         9      9     --     --   20     14.00
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                                                    Heat: 20     34.97
Tons Left:                                                                .03

External Stores Load:
   5 Fuels                          (5 tons)
   Total Stores Load               5 tons total
   Note: Safe Thrust is reduced from 11 to 10 at max bomb load.

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:        19,002,694 C-Bills
Battle Value:      918
Cost per BV:       20,700.1
Weapon Value:      1,004 (Ratio = 1.09)
Damage Factors:    SRV = 18;  MRV = 17;  LRV = 0;  ERV = 0
BattleForce2:      MP: 11,  Armor/Structure: 2 / 0
                   Damage PB/M/L: 2/2/-,  Overheat: 0
                   Class: FL;  Point Value: 9
« Last Edit: 23 April 2022, 22:05:11 by Goose »
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Re: Request: Aerospace Fighter with XXL engine?
« Reply #5 on: 24 April 2022, 15:18:35 »
Picaroon is very durable for its light weight. Perhaps it is even durable than many heavy fighters! With its good speed, I think that it would be the tough opponent to face.

The Vulcan seems the modernized 5N, is it? You did very well to upgrade those weapons while keep its look.

thanks this is a second step from the strange aero challenge to use an XL engine without changing the armor potection or weapons
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Re: Request: Aerospace Fighter with XXL engine?
« Reply #6 on: 26 April 2022, 07:31:13 »
Wow. Two LPLs? Perhaps Harpy may fine with such low armor, for it seems that it is dedicated air to air fighter so even if it hits and lose some altitude it is unlikely to be crash. Reflective armor ensures that it may sustain at least one hit...

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