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Sabelkatten

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Help?
« on: 02 February 2011, 10:42:19 »
Could somekind soul enter these designs into HMBA? :)

Sabretooth
IS medium quad BA, 5 run MP, 7 standard armor, Searchlight, 2 Magshots

Sabretooth Export
IS medium quad BA, 5 run MP, 7 standard armor, Searchlight, MRR, SRM1 w/ 4 rounds

Sabretooth Omni
IS medium quad BA, 5 run MP, 7 standard armor, Configurable turret with 5 open slots
Config 1: Magshot, LMG, Searchlight
Config 2: SRM2 w/ 4 rounds, Firedrake, Searchlight
Config 3: LRM2 w/ 8 rounds
Config 4: Improved Sensors, ECM, TAG, LMG

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Re: Help?
« Reply #1 on: 02 February 2011, 20:32:01 »
The searchlight, mag shots and etc turreted?

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Re: Help?
« Reply #2 on: 03 February 2011, 07:02:36 »
The searchlight, mag shots and etc turreted?

Yes, that's the idea. As I understand it configurable turrets can hold any type of equipment, I hope I haven't gotten that wrong!

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Re: Help?
« Reply #3 on: 03 February 2011, 14:31:01 »
I know that modular weapon mounts will hold BA C3, so it sounds reasonable a search light would fit as well.

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Re: Help?
« Reply #4 on: 03 February 2011, 15:36:40 »
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        Classic BattleTech Battle Armor Technical Readout
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Type/Model:    Sabretooth
Tech/Era:      Inner Sphere / 3067 / CBT Rules
Chassis Type:  Quad
Weight Class:  Medium Battle Armor (751 - 1,000 kg)
Rules:         Level 2, Standard design

Ground Speed:  54.0 km/h
Armor Type:    Standard

------------------------------------------------------------------
Type/Model:    Sabretooth
Equipment:                                          Slots    Mass
Chassis Type:  Medium Class Quad                      0       175
Motive System: Ground Movement (5 MP)                 0       120
Armor Type:    7 Points Standard                      0       350

Manipulators:
  Left Arm:    None                                   0         0
  Right Arm:   None                                   0         0

Weapons and Equipment                Loc     Shots  Slots    Mass
------------------------------------------------------------------
Magshot Gauss Rifle                  Body      20     3       175
Magshot Gauss Rifle                  Body      20     3       175
Searchlight                          Body             1         5
------------------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                                               7     1,000
Slots & Mass Left:                                    0         0

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:     412,520 C-Bills, Including Trooper
                Training Costs of 150,000 C-bills
Battle Value:   49 (196 for 4)  Weapon Value: 31 (Ratio=.63)
Cost per BV:    5,357.55 (w/o Trooper Training costs)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 3   MRDmg = 0   LRDmg = 0
Mechanized:     Cannot travel on any 'Mechs or Vehicles
Attacks:        Can not perform Swarm or Leg attacks
BattleForce2:   Class: IB   MP: 5   Armor/Structure: 2 / 0
                Damage PB/M/L: 1/1/-   Overheat: 0
                Point Value: 2    Specials: car4

CBT:RPG Data:   Armor Value (M/B/E/X): 8/7/6/6    Coverage: Full
                IR: 0,  ECM: 0,  Camo: 0
                Melee AP: 1,  Target Size Modifier: 0
                Movement Speed:   60 m/turn
                Attribute Modifiers:  STR: +2,  DEX: -4,  RFL: 0
                Equipment Rating:  E/E/E

                Created by HeavyMetal Battle Armor

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        Classic BattleTech Battle Armor Technical Readout
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Type/Model:    Sabretooth Export
Tech/Era:      Inner Sphere / 3067 / CBT Rules
Chassis Type:  Quad
Weight Class:  Medium Battle Armor (751 - 1,000 kg)
Rules:         Level 2, Standard design

Ground Speed:  54.0 km/h
Armor Type:    Standard

------------------------------------------------------------------
Type/Model:    Sabretooth Export
Equipment:                                          Slots    Mass
Chassis Type:  Medium Class Quad                      0       175
Motive System: Ground Movement (5 MP)                 0       120
Armor Type:    7 Points Standard                      0       350

Manipulators:
  Left Arm:    None                                   0         0
  Right Arm:   None                                   0         0

Weapons and Equipment                Loc     Shots  Slots    Mass
------------------------------------------------------------------
Medium Recoilless Rifle              Body      20     2       250
  (with High-Explosive Ammo)
SRM 1                                Body       4     2       100
Searchlight                          Body             1         5
------------------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                                               5     1,000
Slots & Mass Left:                                    2         0

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:     405,180 C-Bills, Including Trooper
                Training Costs of 150,000 C-bills
Battle Value:   53 (212 for 4)  Weapon Value: 35 (Ratio=.66)
Cost per BV:    4,814.72 (w/o Trooper Training costs)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 3   MRDmg = 0   LRDmg = 0
Mechanized:     Cannot travel on any 'Mechs or Vehicles
Attacks:        Can not perform Swarm or Leg attacks
BattleForce2:   Class: IB   MP: 5   Armor/Structure: 2 / 0
                Damage PB/M/L: 1/1/-   Overheat: 0
                Point Value: 2    Specials: car4

CBT:RPG Data:   Armor Value (M/B/E/X): 8/7/6/6    Coverage: Full
                IR: 0,  ECM: 0,  Camo: 0
                Melee AP: 1,  Target Size Modifier: 0
                Movement Speed:   60 m/turn
                Attribute Modifiers:  STR: +2,  DEX: -4,  RFL: 0
                Equipment Rating:  E/E/E

                Created by HeavyMetal Battle Armor

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                        * CUSTOM EQUIPMENT

Type/Model:    Sabertooth Omni Config 1
Tech/Era:      Inner Sphere / 3067 / CBT Rules
Chassis Type:  Quad
Weight Class:  Medium Battle Armor (751 - 1,000 kg)
Rules:         Level 2, Standard design

Ground Speed:  54.0 km/h
Armor Type:    Standard

------------------------------------------------------------------
Type/Model:    Sabertooth Omni Config 1
Equipment:                                          Slots    Mass
Chassis Type:  Medium Class Quad                      0       175
Motive System: Ground Movement (5 MP)                 0       120
Armor Type:    7 Points Standard                      0       350

Manipulators:
  Left Arm:    None                                   0         0
  Right Arm:   None                                   0         0

Weapons and Equipment                Loc     Shots  Slots    Mass
------------------------------------------------------------------
Configurable Turret Mount (5 slots)                   7       100
 Magshot Gauss Rifle                 Body      20    (3)      175
 Light Machine Gun*                  Body      50    (1)       75
 Searchlight                         Body            (1)        5
------------------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                                               7     1,000
Slots & Mass Left:                                    0         0

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:     424,510 C-Bills, Including Trooper
                Training Costs of 150,000 C-bills
Battle Value:   39 (156 for 4)  Weapon Value: 20 (Ratio=.51)
Cost per BV:    7,038.72 (w/o Trooper Training costs)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 2   MRDmg = 0   LRDmg = 0
Mechanized:     Cannot travel on any 'Mechs or Vehicles
Attacks:        Can not perform Swarm or Leg attacks
BattleForce2:   Class: IB   MP: 5   Armor/Structure: 2 / 0
                Damage PB/M/L: 1/1/-   Overheat: 0
                Point Value: 2    Specials: car4

CBT:RPG Data:   Armor Value (M/B/E/X): 8/7/6/6    Coverage: Full
                IR: 0,  ECM: 0,  Camo: 0
                Melee AP: 1,  Target Size Modifier: 0
                Movement Speed:   60 m/turn
                Attribute Modifiers:  STR: +2,  DEX: -4,  RFL: 0
                Equipment Rating:  E/E/E

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        Classic BattleTech Battle Armor Technical Readout
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Type/Model:    Sabertooth Omni Config 2
Tech/Era:      Inner Sphere / 3067 / CBT Rules
Chassis Type:  Quad
Weight Class:  Medium Battle Armor (751 - 1,000 kg)
Rules:         Level 2, Standard design

Ground Speed:  54.0 km/h
Armor Type:    Standard

------------------------------------------------------------------
Type/Model:    Sabertooth Omni Config 2
Equipment:                                          Slots    Mass
Chassis Type:  Medium Class Quad                      0       175
Motive System: Ground Movement (5 MP)                 0       120
Armor Type:    7 Points Standard                      0       350

Manipulators:
  Left Arm:    None                                   0         0
  Right Arm:   None                                   0         0

Weapons and Equipment                Loc     Shots  Slots    Mass
------------------------------------------------------------------
Configurable Turret Mount (5 slots)                   7       100
 SRM 2                               Body       4    (3)      200
 Firedrake Support Needler           Body      30    (1)       50
 Searchlight                         Body            (1)        5
------------------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                                               7     1,000
Slots & Mass Left:                                    0         0

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:     424,260 C-Bills, Including Trooper
                Training Costs of 150,000 C-bills
Battle Value:   42 (168 for 4)  Weapon Value: 23 (Ratio=.55)
Cost per BV:    6,530.0 (w/o Trooper Training costs)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 2   MRDmg = 0   LRDmg = 0
Mechanized:     Cannot travel on any 'Mechs or Vehicles
Attacks:        Can not perform Swarm or Leg attacks
BattleForce2:   Class: IB   MP: 5   Armor/Structure: 2 / 0
                Damage PB/M/L: 1/1/-   Overheat: 0
                Point Value: 2    Specials: car4

CBT:RPG Data:   Armor Value (M/B/E/X): 8/7/6/6    Coverage: Full
                IR: 0,  ECM: 0,  Camo: 0
                Melee AP: 1,  Target Size Modifier: 0
                Movement Speed:   60 m/turn
                Attribute Modifiers:  STR: +2,  DEX: -4,  RFL: 0
                Equipment Rating:  E/E/E

                Created by HeavyMetal Battle Armor

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        Classic BattleTech Battle Armor Technical Readout
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Type/Model:    Sabertooth Omni Config 3
Tech/Era:      Inner Sphere / 3067 / CBT Rules
Chassis Type:  Quad
Weight Class:  Medium Battle Armor (751 - 1,000 kg)
Rules:         Level 2, Standard design

Ground Speed:  54.0 km/h
Armor Type:    Standard

------------------------------------------------------------------
Type/Model:    Sabertooth Omni Config 3
Equipment:                                          Slots    Mass
Chassis Type:  Medium Class Quad                      0       175
Motive System: Ground Movement (5 MP)                 0       120
Armor Type:    7 Points Standard                      0       350

Manipulators:
  Left Arm:    None                                   0         0
  Right Arm:   None                                   0         0

Weapons and Equipment                Loc     Shots  Slots    Mass
------------------------------------------------------------------
Configurable Turret Mount (5 slots)                   7       100
 LRM 2                               Body       8    (4)      253
------------------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                                               7       998
Slots & Mass Left:                                    0         2

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:     423,333 C-Bills, Including Trooper
                Training Costs of 150,000 C-bills
Battle Value:   38 (152 for 4)  Weapon Value: 19 (Ratio=.50)
Cost per BV:    7,192.97 (w/o Trooper Training costs)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 1   MRDmg = 1   LRDmg = 1
Mechanized:     Cannot travel on any 'Mechs or Vehicles
Attacks:        Can not perform Swarm or Leg attacks
BattleForce2:   Class: IB   MP: 5   Armor/Structure: 2 / 0
                Damage PB/M/L: -/-/-   Overheat: 0
                Point Value: 2    Specials: car4

CBT:RPG Data:   Armor Value (M/B/E/X): 8/7/6/6    Coverage: Full
                IR: 0,  ECM: 0,  Camo: 0
                Melee AP: 1,  Target Size Modifier: 0
                Movement Speed:   60 m/turn
                Attribute Modifiers:  STR: +2,  DEX: -4,  RFL: 0
                Equipment Rating:  E/E/E

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Con Fig 4 didn't work and I had to build them individually because for some reason it didn't allow searchlights to be fitted in the turret in omni-mode

Sabelkatten

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Re: Help?
« Reply #5 on: 03 February 2011, 16:15:07 »
What was it that didn't work with the 4th config?

I got 250 kg (Sensors 65 + ECM 75 + TAG 35 + LMG 75), did I use the wrong weight for something?

If it mounts a Firedrake instead of the LMG, would that work?

Anyway, thanks! Now I'll just finish up the fluff as well. :)

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Re: Help?
« Reply #6 on: 03 February 2011, 17:16:02 »
The Sensors and ECM can't be turret mounted it seems.

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Re: Help?
« Reply #7 on: 03 February 2011, 21:57:03 »
I just posed the question about equipment in BA modular mounts in the rules questions section (http://www.classicbattletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=1120.0)

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Re: Help?
« Reply #8 on: 04 February 2011, 09:13:08 »
Not turret mounted? Grrr... >:(

Could you enter it with the ECM and sensors body-mounted body-mounted? I figure the weights will end up wrong, but that's easy to edit by hand. And I figure the official answer will change at some point anyway when some writer makes a mistake... ::)

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Re: Help?
« Reply #9 on: 15 February 2011, 16:29:06 »
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Re: Help?
« Reply #10 on: 15 February 2011, 17:03:47 »
It looks like config 4 is TW legal O0 --> http://www.classicbattletech.com/forums/index.php/topic,1120.msg36183.html#msg36183

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Great! :) Just wish it had been clear on just what goes for infantery weapons... From the way the answer reads I can throw a manpack SRM into a turret - but there's AFAIK no slot size for infantery weapons!