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Title: Legionnaire Battle Armor Suit
Post by: boilerman on 11 April 2020, 00:47:21
TSR Gamma World introduced me to the idea of powered body armor around 1983, but it was Maschinen Kreiger models that helped me visualize them. I discovered Maschinen Kreiger at the same time as Battletech in 1986 before the clans, heck even before the Fourth Succession War was introduced. When the clans and their Elemental suits debuted, I thought the Maschinen Krieger suits made the perfect Inner Sphere battle armor prototypes. So here is my tribute to Maschinen Kreiger.
Give credit where credit is due: but due to the language barrier I cannot credit the modeler (possibly Stakezo7) that painted the Maschinen Krieger suit I claim is a fair representation of the Legionnaire light battle armor but the link below is to a site showcasing his fine model.

https://gamp.ameblo.jp/stakezo7/entry-12368497763.html (https://gamp.ameblo.jp/stakezo7/entry-12368497763.html)



        Classic BattleTech Battle Armor Technical Readout
                        * CUSTOM EQUIPMENT

Type/Model:    Legionnaire 
Tech/Era:      Inner Sphere / 3050
Chassis Type:  Humanoid
Weight Class:  Light Battle Armor (401 - 750 kg)
Rules:         Level 2, Standard design

Ground Speed:  21.6 km/h
Armor Type:    Standard

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==Background==
The Aporian Republic has been slowly expanding its industrial base for nearly a century with the goal of building all its own armaments. About 20 years ago military leadership set engineers to work developing their own battle armor suit. Engineers start with indigenous exoskeletons and reverse engineered what they could from a half dozen Inner Sphere model suits that the High Command supplied, most likely bought on the black market somewhere in the Inner Sphere. Development took far longer than expected, but the result is reasonably agile and adequately armed and armored. Whether the Republic Guard can afford to deploy the suit in the numbers envisioned remains to be seen.

==Capabilities==
The suit, dubbed the Legionnaire, weights in at 710 kg and comes equipped with versions of the Republic Guard’s standard issue medium machinegun and personal defense weapon as well as an autoloading version of its medium recoilless rifle. The suit is not equipped with a jump pack to reduce complexity and cost but does have oversized myomer bundles in the legs for sprinting. The suit is also designed to carry the operator’s infantry kit externally, so it is close at hand if needed, rather than on a truck in the rear area.

==Deployment==
The Republic Guard is still experimenting on how best to deploy its battle armor but has, at least for the moment, settled on a 20-suit Troop as its standard unit. A troop consists 2 squads each made up of 2 fire teams, each fire team has 4 suits; the final 4 suits form the troop command element.
A single troop will be attached to each Expeditionary Battlegroup, a reinforced combined arms battalion. The Expeditionary Battlegroup, built around a BattleMech company, is the Republic Guard’s primary BattleMech deployment scheme. The High Command plans to attach a troop to every infantry regiment, assuming the Republic can afford to.
The Legionnaire battle armor suit has not seen combat yet as the first troop only reached operation status 6 months ago, but the High Command has high hopes.

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Type/Model:    Legionnaire
Equipment:                                          Slots    Mass
Chassis Type:  Light Class Humanoid                   0       100
Motive System: Ground Movement (2 MP)                 0        30
Armor Type:    5 Points Standard                      0       250

Manipulators:
  Left Arm:    Basic Manipulator                      0         0
  Right Arm:   Basic Manipulator                      0         0

Weapons and Equipment                Loc     Shots  Slots    Mass
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Medium Recoilless Rifle              Body      20     2       250
  (with High-Explosive Ammo)
Mission Equipment (40kg Capy)        Body             1         0
Light Machine Gun*                   RA        50     1        75
Anti-Personnel Weapon Mount          LA               1         5
 Sub-Machine Gun                     LA        50     0         0
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TOTALS:                                               5       710
Slots & Mass Left:                                    3        40

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:     295,186 C-Bills, Including Trooper
                Training Costs of 150,000 C-bills
Battle Value:   43 (172 for 4)  Weapon Value: 19 (Ratio=.44)
Cost per BV:    3,376.42 (w/o Trooper Training costs)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 2   MRDmg = 0   LRDmg = 0
BattleForce2:   Class: IB   MP: 2   Armor/Structure: 2 / 0
                Damage PB/M/L: 1/1/-   Overheat: 0
                Point Value: 2    Specials: mec, car4

CBT:RPG Data:   Armor Value (M/B/E/X): 7/7/6/6    Coverage: Full
                IR: 0,  ECM: 0,  Camo: 0
                Melee AP: 1,  Target Size Modifier: 0
                Movement Modifiers:
                  Walking: +2,  Running: +4,  Sprinting: +6
                Attribute Modifiers:  STR: +2,  DEX: -1,  RFL: -1
                Equipment Rating:  E/E/E

                Created by HeavyMetal Battle Armor
Title: Re: Legionnaire Battle Armor Suit
Post by: Daryk on 11 April 2020, 08:13:53
40kg left?  Why not give it 3 ground MP?  ???
Title: Re: Legionnaire Battle Armor Suit
Post by: Dragon Cat on 11 April 2020, 09:35:28
40kg left?  Why not give it 3 ground MP?  ???

Agreed

Aporian Republic who are they?
Title: Re: Legionnaire Battle Armor Suit
Post by: boilerman on 11 April 2020, 09:59:55
Aporian Republic is a Periphery state in my alternate BT universe.
MP2 for the suit is about flavor to make the suit not like every other one out there.
The Legionnaire is this faction's first design it's going to be far from perfect.
Title: Re: Legionnaire Battle Armor Suit
Post by: Daryk on 11 April 2020, 10:20:05
I was just thinking 3 MP would fit the fluff better...
Title: Re: Legionnaire Battle Armor Suit
Post by: Empyrus on 11 April 2020, 10:23:46
I gotta say 3MP seems better too. The suit is already only light class with just 5 points of armor, that's already reasonable for "first try". Reducing MP is just gimping it to point of uselessness.
Title: Re: Legionnaire Battle Armor Suit
Post by: sillybrit on 11 April 2020, 13:48:29
40kg left?  Why not give it 3 ground MP?  ???

The 40kg is the capacity of the equipment bay, that's used to carry the trooper's infantry kit.

Title: Re: Legionnaire Battle Armor Suit
Post by: Daryk on 11 April 2020, 16:14:31
The fluff says that's carried externally, though...
Title: Re: Legionnaire Battle Armor Suit
Post by: worktroll on 11 April 2020, 17:07:08
Always liked the look of the stuff ...

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/806EbHuymboIcBeFfvpCaEFUvdo5eJVOWf_u7zY9lcMM4a0riYzhiSfb7nQkqCIFGG4t_YWYOMhW1Rbg7UAvKASQuei452hxlpAH5OrzfqQ3fwotZ2PoVgjFfUIgyWb22mByC7TSTmQA383XvWkjToLZ1iMUuxQpIQhZ4Bdua6Zziz1FaHyA6P2au7co4EtQq_Cr8npWOvNbe6qZwCXnLvGPLbx2CZQcNIDoGlnWu1vnv2odLJPZzOoLAgk5DIChaTVACundeEhnxt4Ku6JXLmLkaA1oJR5CSbhBCB--sAfMbam2KaJAVMO0lCF5zpB8Dv-eEjMkxmSV07PK5FxB3i-bztmWmTs7Wq3HpU3K71kXuM6JFJotFTcJpnFQzC1-By8gl97DsPo-MNqPICDWIZKmkB3R_GLE9rDvlKXtZHRoNHxpMIWsBGLksW5tY_-XxEN1xI5AdzguNDcuBeutb-qfISsxTyBT5Qj4I0DHd3j5ej5uFgeNTbQF5RFPCWU9Usp-GukVqE1LOjIs2TBDhi1TKR-gGWeiTqxE6nm9Wgxiq6TUxkwylstt4ebebABUE30GktRzP2s0bfNXiiMqIYax4Lx4bpLx3G2rj7IAHDQR_bZmc1Ct2KrItx4mVt8ePfQfLQM2gt4zTaBAfrhajGAS9A2oHI8rsH36iimyMrC0G3icANErhw77L3tIqcukzuOM7wMf4G9TeWVpfCrl77EttxSu8-_Qld6c27Z4YNSjq4lwRdKWVYs=w886-h271-no)
Title: Re: Legionnaire Battle Armor Suit
Post by: sillybrit on 11 April 2020, 17:18:32
The fluff says that's carried externally, though...

Fluff is fluff, rules is rules.

Mission Equipment bays have a maximum capacity allocated which should be listed in the Mass column, but whichever software is being used (looks like Heavy Metal) doesn't list the allocated mass properly.
Title: Re: Legionnaire Battle Armor Suit
Post by: Dragon Cat on 11 April 2020, 18:55:03
Aporian Republic is a Periphery state in my alternate BT universe.

That's cool where they based?
Title: Re: Legionnaire Battle Armor Suit
Post by: Daryk on 11 April 2020, 19:39:37
Fluff is fluff, rules is rules.

Mission Equipment bays have a maximum capacity allocated which should be listed in the Mass column, but whichever software is being used (looks like Heavy Metal) doesn't list the allocated mass properly.
So... BA can't carry external cargo?  ???
Title: Re: Legionnaire Battle Armor Suit
Post by: Empyrus on 11 April 2020, 19:48:36
So... BA can't carry external cargo?  ???
Not by rules, probably for simplicity's sake.
Title: Re: Legionnaire Battle Armor Suit
Post by: Daryk on 11 April 2020, 19:51:59
But... Cargo Lifters?  ???
Title: Re: Legionnaire Battle Armor Suit
Post by: Empyrus on 11 April 2020, 19:54:54
But... Cargo Lifters?  ???
Right, those exists... off-hand, not sure those actually allow lifting cargo rules-wise, might be fluff only.
EDIT Ah, they do allow for lifting cargo. TWpg229
Title: Re: Legionnaire Battle Armor Suit
Post by: Daryk on 11 April 2020, 19:55:56
They give a value for what they can lift, so I'd certainly hope so...
Title: Re: Legionnaire Battle Armor Suit
Post by: boilerman on 11 April 2020, 23:15:45
That's cool where they based?
Anti-spinward of the Magistracy of Canopus and rimward of the Marian Hegemony.

In my alt universe they're the Marian Hegemony's next target, after swallowing the Lothian League.
Title: Re: Legionnaire Battle Armor Suit
Post by: boilerman on 11 April 2020, 23:16:57
Always liked the look of the stuff ...

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/806EbHuymboIcBeFfvpCaEFUvdo5eJVOWf_u7zY9lcMM4a0riYzhiSfb7nQkqCIFGG4t_YWYOMhW1Rbg7UAvKASQuei452hxlpAH5OrzfqQ3fwotZ2PoVgjFfUIgyWb22mByC7TSTmQA383XvWkjToLZ1iMUuxQpIQhZ4Bdua6Zziz1FaHyA6P2au7co4EtQq_Cr8npWOvNbe6qZwCXnLvGPLbx2CZQcNIDoGlnWu1vnv2odLJPZzOoLAgk5DIChaTVACundeEhnxt4Ku6JXLmLkaA1oJR5CSbhBCB--sAfMbam2KaJAVMO0lCF5zpB8Dv-eEjMkxmSV07PK5FxB3i-bztmWmTs7Wq3HpU3K71kXuM6JFJotFTcJpnFQzC1-By8gl97DsPo-MNqPICDWIZKmkB3R_GLE9rDvlKXtZHRoNHxpMIWsBGLksW5tY_-XxEN1xI5AdzguNDcuBeutb-qfISsxTyBT5Qj4I0DHd3j5ej5uFgeNTbQF5RFPCWU9Usp-GukVqE1LOjIs2TBDhi1TKR-gGWeiTqxE6nm9Wgxiq6TUxkwylstt4ebebABUE30GktRzP2s0bfNXiiMqIYax4Lx4bpLx3G2rj7IAHDQR_bZmc1Ct2KrItx4mVt8ePfQfLQM2gt4zTaBAfrhajGAS9A2oHI8rsH36iimyMrC0G3icANErhw77L3tIqcukzuOM7wMf4G9TeWVpfCrl77EttxSu8-_Qld6c27Z4YNSjq4lwRdKWVYs=w886-h271-no)

Cool stuff. Those more of your own scuplts WT?
Title: Re: Legionnaire Battle Armor Suit
Post by: worktroll on 12 April 2020, 01:46:44
Take the backpacks off a Gnome, then push a small blob of modelling clay in place. Smooth, then add the entry-caps by indenting with the cap of a ballpoint pen. I'd love it if they made 9mm MK minis ;)
Title: Re: Legionnaire Battle Armor Suit
Post by: Dragon Cat on 13 April 2020, 03:03:27
Anti-spinward of the Magistracy of Canopus and rimward of the Marian Hegemony.

In my alt universe they're the Marian Hegemony's next target, after swallowing the Lothian League.

Unlucky them
Title: Re: Legionnaire Battle Armor Suit
Post by: boilerman on 13 April 2020, 17:26:33
It's a tough neighborhood. Long term I don't give then much of a chance against the MH unless they get really lucky. I'm thinking Jihad tactics are in order.
Title: Re: Legionnaire Battle Armor Suit
Post by: Daryk on 13 April 2020, 17:36:25
Nukes usually work, yeah...  ^-^