Tinkering with Infatry Platoons

[Goose]

 

… OK: It's one platoon, to see if it readable on the forum.

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Notable Unit:
Tech Base (Rating): Inner Sphere (D/X-X-D)
Transport Weight: 26 tons
Equipment:
Primary Weapon: 24 Federated-Barrett M61A Laser Rifles
Secondary Weapon: 3 Support Machine Guns
Disposable Weapon: LAW Rocket Launchers
Armor: AFFS/AFFC (3030+) Armor Kit
Battle Value: 392
Notes: 2 s with 1 ton of ammunition each. Each weapon requires 9 soldiers to operate. Not trained or equipped for Anti-’Mech or Swarming Attacks. 1 Paramedic assigned. Paramedic equipment. 
Platoon Type (Specialty): Motorized, (Field Guns)
Ground MP:  3
Terrain Restrictions: Water(Any)
Platoon Size (Squad/Platoon): 28 (7/4)
Damage Divisor: 2
To-Hit Modifier (Range in Hexes):
 -1 (0 Hexes), 0 (1-2 Hexes), 2 (3-4 Hexes), 4 (5-6 Hexes)
Maximum Weapon Damage (# of Troopers):
21 (28), 20 (27-26), 19 (25), 18 (24), 17 (23-22), 16 (21), 15 (20), 14 (19-18), 13 (17), 12 (16), 11 (15-14), 10 (13), 9 (12), 8 (11-10), 7 (9), 6 (8), 5 (7-6), 4 (5), 3 (4), 2 (3-2), 1 (1)
Cost (C-bills): 7224521

Disposable Weapons (If Equipped)
To-Hit Modifier (Range in Hexes):
 -2 (0 Hexes), 0 (1-2 Hexes), 2 (3-4 Hexes), 4 (5-6 Hexes)
Maximum Weapon Damage (# of Troopers):
14 (28-27), 13 (26-25), 12 (24-23), 11 (22-21), 10 (20-19), 9 (18-17), 8 (16-15), 7 (14-13), 6 (12-11), 5 (10-9), 4 (8-7), 3 (6-5), 2 (4-3), 1 (2-1)

Adjusted Platoon Stats
Gunnery TN: 3
Anti-'Mech TN: -
Experience Rating: Veteran
Adjusted BV: 512
  There's a spot which should list the Ultra/5s …

(Was "Ever so munchie set of Field Guns")

[Daryk]

The "Notes" block says "2 s with 1 ton of ammunition each."

[Goose]

… Instead of what I have here, on-screen.

I can't remember the last time I had a working file-hosting service, to show a screen-cap with.

[Daryk]

The code block should simply display whatever text you paste in there without alteration... 

[Goose]

Only when it works right.

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Notable Unit:
Tech Base (Rating): Inner Sphere (E/X-X-E)
Transport Weight: 2.5 tons
Equipment:
Primary Weapon: 21 Federated-Barrett M42B Assault Rifles
Secondary Weapon: 5 Heavy Support Pulse Lasers
Disposable Weapon: LAW Rocket Launchers
Armor: AFFS/AFFC (3030+) Armor Kit
Battle Value: 179
Notes:  Not trained or equipped for Anti-’Mech or Swarming Attacks. 1 Paramedic assigned. Paramedic equipment. 
Platoon Type (Specialty): Foot, (None)
Ground MP:  Shoot or Move 1MP
Terrain Restrictions: Water(Any)
Platoon Size (Squad/Platoon): 27 (9/3)
Damage Divisor: 2
To-Hit Modifier (Range in Hexes):
 -1 (0 Hexes), 0 (1-4 Hexes), 1 (5-6 Hexes), 2 (7-8 Hexes), 3 (9-10 Hexes), 4 (11-12 Hexes)
Maximum Weapon Damage (# of Troopers):
26 (27), 25 (26), 24 (25), 23 (24), 22 (23), 21 (22), 20 (21), 19 (20), 18 (19), 17 (18), 16 (17), 15 (16), 14 (15), 13 (14), 12 (13-12), 11 (11), 10 (10), 9 (9), 8 (8), 7 (7), 6 (6), 5 (5), 4 (4), 3 (3), 2 (2), 1 (1)
Cost (C-bills): 6253483

Disposable Weapons (If Equipped)
To-Hit Modifier (Range in Hexes):
 -2 (0 Hexes), 0 (1-2 Hexes), 2 (3-4 Hexes), 4 (5-6 Hexes)
Maximum Weapon Damage (# of Troopers):
14 (27-26), 13 (25), 12 (24-23), 11 (22-21), 10 (20-19), 9 (18-17), 8 (16-15), 7 (14-13), 6 (12-11), 5 (10-9), 4 (8-7), 3 (6-5), 2 (4-3), 1 (2-1)

Adjusted Platoon Stats
Gunnery TN: 1
Anti-'Mech TN: -
Experience Rating: Elite
Adjusted BV: 342
Not actual field guns, strictly speaking …

[Daryk]

How do you get 5 Support Weapons into that platoon?  There should be an even number with 2 per squad...

[Goose]

The medic subtracts one.

[Daryk]

Shouldn't there be one in every squad? 

[Goose]

Go a pp.?

[Daryk]

I thought all the squads in a platoon had to be the same...

[boilerman]

I thought all the squads in a platoon had to be the same...

Combat medics are an exception to that rule. A medic replaces 1 support weapon in the platoon, not 1 support weapon per squad.

[Goose]

I thought there was something in that sheet which gave medium pulses the anti-infanty 1d6?

[Daryk]

Combat medics are an exception to that rule. A medic replaces 1 support weapon in the platoon, not 1 support weapon per squad.

So... what range does the platoon use?  The primary weapons', or the secondarys'? By squad, three would have the range of the secondary weapons, while the one with the Medic would use the primary range.

[Goose]

If there's only one support weapon per squad, you use the "rifle" number…

[Daryk]

Yes, but in a platoon that has three squads that have TWO support weapons, and one that only has one, what does the platoon overall use? 

[Goose]

The numbers is not "one," ergo …

[Daryk]

But it is in one squad...

[Goose]

Very Simple Test:

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Notable Unit:
Tech Base (Rating): Inner Sphere (C/X-X-D)
Transport Weight: 2.5 tons
Equipment:
Primary Weapon: 24 Battle Rifles
Secondary Weapon: 4 Heavy Grenade Launchers
Disposable Weapon: LAW Rocket Launchers
Armor: Standard Armor Kit
Battle Value: 99
Notes:  Not trained or equipped for Anti-’Mech or Swarming Attacks.   
Platoon Type (Specialty): Foot, (None)
Ground MP:  1
Terrain Restrictions: Water(Any)
Platoon Size (Squad/Platoon): 28 (7/4)
Damage Divisor: 1
To-Hit Modifier (Range in Hexes):
 -1 (0 Hexes), 0 (1-2 Hexes), 2 (3-4 Hexes), 4 (5-6 Hexes)
Maximum Weapon Damage (# of Troopers):
16 (28), 15 (27-26), 14 (25-24), 13 (23-22), 12 (21), 11 (20-19), 10 (18-17), 9 (16-15), 8 (14), 7 (13-12), 6 (11-10), 5 (9-8), 4 (7), 3 (6-5), 2 (4-3), 1 (2-1)
Cost (C-bills): 1527783

Disposable Weapons (If Equipped)
To-Hit Modifier (Range in Hexes):
 -2 (0 Hexes), 0 (1-2 Hexes), 2 (3-4 Hexes), 4 (5-6 Hexes)
Maximum Weapon Damage (# of Troopers):
15 (28-27), 14 (26-25), 13 (24), 12 (23-22), 11 (21-20), 10 (19-18), 9 (17-16), 8 (15-14), 7 (13), 6 (12-11), 5 (10-9), 4 (8-7), 3 (6-5), 2 (4-3), 1 (2-1)

Adjusted Platoon Stats
Gunnery TN: 4
Anti-'Mech TN: -
Experience Rating: Regular
Adjusted BV: 99
Did I miss something?

[Daryk]

With all the variance between the various software packages and the rules, I have no idea.

[boilerman]

Yes, but in a platoon that has three squads that have TWO support weapons, and one that only has one, what does the platoon overall use? 

As I recall it's if you have less than 2 support weapons per squad but looking at the platoon as a whole.

5 support weapons between 3 squads is less than 2 support weapons per squad in the platoon.

[boilerman]

Very Simple Test:

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Notable Unit:
Tech Base (Rating): Inner Sphere (C/X-X-D)
Transport Weight: 2.5 tons
Equipment:
Primary Weapon: 24 Battle Rifles
Secondary Weapon: 4 Heavy Grenade Launchers
Disposable Weapon: LAW Rocket Launchers
Armor: Standard Armor Kit
Battle Value: 99
Notes:  Not trained or equipped for Anti-’Mech or Swarming Attacks.   
Platoon Type (Specialty): Foot, (None)
Ground MP:  1
Terrain Restrictions: Water(Any)
Platoon Size (Squad/Platoon): 28 (7/4)
Damage Divisor: 1
To-Hit Modifier (Range in Hexes):
 -1 (0 Hexes), 0 (1-2 Hexes), 2 (3-4 Hexes), 4 (5-6 Hexes)
Maximum Weapon Damage (# of Troopers):
16 (28), 15 (27-26), 14 (25-24), 13 (23-22), 12 (21), 11 (20-19), 10 (18-17), 9 (16-15), 8 (14), 7 (13-12), 6 (11-10), 5 (9-8), 4 (7), 3 (6-5), 2 (4-3), 1 (2-1)
Cost (C-bills): 1527783

Disposable Weapons (If Equipped)
To-Hit Modifier (Range in Hexes):
 -2 (0 Hexes), 0 (1-2 Hexes), 2 (3-4 Hexes), 4 (5-6 Hexes)
Maximum Weapon Damage (# of Troopers):
15 (28-27), 14 (26-25), 13 (24), 12 (23-22), 11 (21-20), 10 (19-18), 9 (17-16), 8 (15-14), 7 (13), 6 (12-11), 5 (10-9), 4 (8-7), 3 (6-5), 2 (4-3), 1 (2-1)

Adjusted Platoon Stats
Gunnery TN: 4
Anti-'Mech TN: -
Experience Rating: Regular
Adjusted BV: 99
Did I miss something?

What were you testing?

[Goose]

It was an open invitation for someone with a better balanced coffee:nutrition ratio to check things. 

[Goose]

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Notable Unit:
Tech Base (Rating): Inner Sphere (E/X-X-E)
Transport Weight: 2.5 tons
Equipment:
Primary Weapon: 20 Dual Assault Rifle & Grenade Launcher Weapons
Secondary Weapon: 8 Kind David Light Gauss Rifles
Disposable Weapon: LAW Rocket Launchers
Armor: FWLM Armor Kit
Battle Value: 122
Notes:  Not trained or equipped for Anti-’Mech or Swarming Attacks.   
Platoon Type (Specialty): Foot, (None)
Ground MP:  Shoot or Move 1MP
Terrain Restrictions: Water(Any)
Platoon Size (Squad/Platoon): 28 (7/4)
Damage Divisor: 1
To-Hit Modifier (Range in Hexes):
 -1 (0 Hexes), 0 (1-3 Hexes), 2 (4-6 Hexes), 4 (7-9 Hexes)
Maximum Weapon Damage (# of Troopers):
21 (28), 20 (27-26), 19 (25), 18 (24), 17 (23-22), 16 (21), 15 (20), 14 (19-18), 13 (17), 12 (16), 11 (15-14), 10 (13), 9 (12), 8 (11-10), 7 (9), 6 (8), 5 (7-6), 4 (5), 3 (4), 2 (3-2), 1 (1)
Cost (C-bills): 3070080

Disposable Weapons (If Equipped)
To-Hit Modifier (Range in Hexes):
 -2 (0 Hexes), 0 (1-2 Hexes), 2 (3-4 Hexes), 4 (5-6 Hexes)
Maximum Weapon Damage (# of Troopers):
15 (28-27), 14 (26-25), 13 (24), 12 (23-22), 11 (21-20), 10 (19-18), 9 (17-16), 8 (15-14), 7 (13), 6 (12-11), 5 (10-9), 4 (8-7), 3 (6-5), 2 (4-3), 1 (2-1)

Adjusted Platoon Stats
Gunnery TN: 4
Anti-'Mech TN: -
Experience Rating: Regular
Adjusted BV: 122
I thought King Davids got the extra 1d6 anti-infantry headcount?

[Daryk]

I takes a Burst value of at least 15 (and AP x BD 20 or more) to qualify for the Heavy Burst special.  The King David only has a Burst of 5.

[Goose]

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Notable Unit:
Tech Base (Rating): Inner Sphere (C/B-C-C)
Transport Weight: 2.5 tons
Equipment:
Primary Weapon: 24 Assault Rifles
Secondary Weapon: 4 Combat Shotguns
Disposable Weapon: Micro Grenades
Armor: Non-Armored Clothing, Fatigues/Civilian
Battle Value: 72
Notes:  Not trained or equipped for Anti-’Mech or Swarming Attacks.   
Platoon Type (Specialty): Foot, (None)
Ground MP:  1
Terrain Restrictions: Water(Any)
Platoon Size (Squad/Platoon): 28 (7/4)
Damage Divisor: 1
To-Hit Modifier (Range in Hexes):
-2 (0 Hexes), 0 (1 Hex), 2 (2 Hexes), 4 (Hexes)
Maximum Weapon Damage (# of Troopers):
14 (28-27), 13 (26-25), 12 (24-23), 11 (22-21), 10 (20-19), 9 (18-17), 8 (16-15), 7 (14-13), 6 (12-11), 5 (10-9), 4 (8-7), 3 (6-5), 2 (4-3), 1 (2-1)
Cost (C-bills): 605047

Disposable Weapons (If Equipped)
To-Hit Modifier (Range in Hexes):
0 (0 Hexes)
Maximum Weapon Damage (# of Troopers):
4 (28-25), 3 (24-18), 2 (17-11), 1 (10-4), 0 (3-1)

Adjusted Platoon Stats
Gunnery TN: 5
Anti-'Mech TN: -
Experience Rating: Green
Adjusted BV: 65Comrade Cheap is Cheap

[Daryk]

Uh... Combat shotguns are more expensive than Auto-Rifles, AND do less damage (at less range, no less)...  The Micro-Grenades work, though...

[Goose]

Ever watch Enemy at the Gates?

[Daryk]

Not yet, but it's on my list to watch...

[truetanker]

Robocop shouldn't have done that to Sasha...

TT

[Goose]

 

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Notable Unit:
Tech Base (Rating): Inner Sphere (E/X-F-E)
Transport Weight: 2.5 tons
Equipment:
Primary Weapon: 21 Dual Assault Rifle & Grenade Launcher Weapons
Secondary Weapon: 5 Heavy Support Pulse Lasers
Disposable Weapon: LAW Rocket Launchers
Armor: AFFS/AFFC (3030+) Armor Kit
Battle Value: 166
Notes:  Not trained or equipped for Anti-’Mech or Swarming Attacks. 1 Paramedic assigned. Paramedic equipment. 
Platoon Type (Specialty): Foot, (None)
Ground MP:  Shoot or Move 1MP
Terrain Restrictions: Water(Any)
Platoon Size (Squad/Platoon): 27 (9/3)
Damage Divisor: 2
To-Hit Modifier (Range in Hexes):
 -1 (0 Hexes), 0 (1-4 Hexes), 1 (5-6 Hexes), 2 (7-8 Hexes), 3 (9-10 Hexes), 4 (11-12 Hexes)
Maximum Weapon Damage (# of Troopers):
21 (27), 20 (26-25), 19 (24), 18 (23), 17 (22), 16 (21-20), 15 (19), 14 (18), 13 (17), 12 (16-15), 11 (14), 10 (13), 9 (12-11), 8 (10), 7 (9), 6 (8), 5 (7-6), 4 (5), 3 (4), 2 (3-2), 1 (1)
Cost (C-bills): 5708772

Disposable Weapons (If Equipped)
To-Hit Modifier (Range in Hexes):
 -2 (0 Hexes), 0 (1-2 Hexes), 2 (3-4 Hexes), 4 (5-6 Hexes)
Maximum Weapon Damage (# of Troopers):
14 (27-26), 13 (25), 12 (24-23), 11 (22-21), 10 (20-19), 9 (18-17), 8 (16-15), 7 (14-13), 6 (12-11), 5 (10-9), 4 (8-7), 3 (6-5), 2 (4-3), 1 (2-1)

Adjusted Platoon Stats
Gunnery TN: 1
Anti-'Mech TN: -
Experience Rating: Elite
Adjusted BV: 316What faction would actually reorganize itself around infantry medium pulses?