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Daryk

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Spector Succession Wars Downgrade
« on: 04 December 2022, 08:02:01 »
Being that the Exterminator received a Succession Wars version, I don't see why the Spector shouldn't have one too:
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Spector (SW) SPR-4S

Mass: 35 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Chassis Config: Biped
Rules Level: Experimental Tech
Era: Succession Wars
Tech Rating/Era Availability: D/X-E-D-D
Production Year: 3025
Dry Cost: 3,272,760 C-Bills
Total Cost: 3,272,760 C-Bills
Battle Value: 855

Chassis: Unknown Standard
Power Plant: Unknown 245 Fusion Engine
Walking Speed: 75.6 km/h
Maximum Speed: 118.8 km/h
Jump Jets: Unknown
    Jump Capacity: 210 meters
Armor: Unknown Standard Armor
Armament:
    2  Medium Lasers
    1  Recon Camera
Manufacturer: Unknown
    Primary Factory: Unknown
Communications System: Unknown
Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Standard                      58 points                3.50
Engine:             Fusion Engine                245                      12.00
    Walking MP: 7
    Running MP: 11
    Jumping MP: 7 Standard
    Jump Jet Locations: 1 CT, 3 LT, 3 RT                                   3.50
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             10                        0.00
    Heat Sink Locations: 1 CT
Gyro:               Standard                                               3.00
Cockpit:            Standard                                               3.00
    Actuators:      L: SH+UA+LA+H    R: SH+UA+LA+H
Armor:              Standard Armor               AV - 119                  7.50

                                                      Internal       Armor     
                                                      Structure      Factor     
                                                Head     3            9         
                                        Center Torso     11           17       
                                 Center Torso (rear)                  5         
                                           L/R Torso     8            11       
                                    L/R Torso (rear)                  5         
                                             L/R Arm     6            12       
                                             L/R Leg     8            16       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat    Critical    Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Medium Laser                                 RA        3         1         1.00
Medium Laser                                 LA        3         1         1.00
Recon Camera                                 HD        0         1         0.50
                                            Free Critical Slots: 36

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      4    Points: 9
7j         1       1       0       0      1     0   Structure:  3
Special Abilities: ENE, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA

Failure16

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Re: Spector Succession Wars Downgrade
« Reply #1 on: 04 December 2022, 09:26:58 »
Nice. Reasonable, and always nice to see a SW-era Light that isn't either too tied to a specific faction (COM, VLK, PNT/JR7 etc.) or too single-minded/focused (UM, FS9). And the ReCam is always a nice addition. That has been officially retconned into 3SW availability, right?
Thought I might get a rocket ride when I was a child.          We are the wild youth, 
But it was a lie, that I told myself                                          Chasing visions of our futures.
When I needed something good.                                            One day we'll reveal the truth,
At 17, I had a better dream; now I'm 33, and it isn't me.        That one will die before he gets there.

But I'd think of something better if I could
                           --E. Tonra
--A. Duritz

Daryk

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Re: Spector Succession Wars Downgrade
« Reply #2 on: 04 December 2022, 09:55:26 »
It's Pre-Spaceflight, but you need to use Experimental rules.

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Re: Spector Succession Wars Downgrade
« Reply #3 on: 04 December 2022, 10:08:24 »
It's Pre-Spaceflight, but you need to use Experimental rules.

Oh, I don't care about rules-levels, so to speak, only if something is allowed. For example, I'm totally down with downgraded SL (e.g. TRO3025R) types and Blazers. And Rocket Launchers, no matter what anybody says. I guess my litmus-test is: if nobody would have a reasonable argument about something's inclusion in a (say) 3014-era game, then it's available for me to use.
Thought I might get a rocket ride when I was a child.          We are the wild youth, 
But it was a lie, that I told myself                                          Chasing visions of our futures.
When I needed something good.                                            One day we'll reveal the truth,
At 17, I had a better dream; now I'm 33, and it isn't me.        That one will die before he gets there.

But I'd think of something better if I could
                           --E. Tonra
--A. Duritz

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Re: Spector Succession Wars Downgrade
« Reply #4 on: 04 December 2022, 10:12:04 »
The biggest benefit it gives is being able to spot and still shoot weapons, so I don't think it presents a game balance problem in 3025.

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Re: Spector Succession Wars Downgrade
« Reply #5 on: 04 December 2022, 10:54:16 »
The biggest benefit it gives is being able to spot and still shoot weapons, so I don't think it presents a game balance problem in 3025.

I do not worship at the altar of game balance, believing instead that certain things will gain prevalence based on their utility and other things will fall by the wayside. And some of those latter things will still see use because of a variety of factors.

You know, just like in the real world.
Thought I might get a rocket ride when I was a child.          We are the wild youth, 
But it was a lie, that I told myself                                          Chasing visions of our futures.
When I needed something good.                                            One day we'll reveal the truth,
At 17, I had a better dream; now I'm 33, and it isn't me.        That one will die before he gets there.

But I'd think of something better if I could
                           --E. Tonra
--A. Duritz

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Re: Spector Succession Wars Downgrade
« Reply #6 on: 04 December 2022, 11:34:46 »
Certainly!  It's just that game balance is the most common argument I've encountered when advocating for these kinds of things.

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Re: Spector Succession Wars Downgrade
« Reply #7 on: 04 December 2022, 12:49:00 »
Pfft. Amateurs.  ;D
Thought I might get a rocket ride when I was a child.          We are the wild youth, 
But it was a lie, that I told myself                                          Chasing visions of our futures.
When I needed something good.                                            One day we'll reveal the truth,
At 17, I had a better dream; now I'm 33, and it isn't me.        That one will die before he gets there.

But I'd think of something better if I could
                           --E. Tonra
--A. Duritz

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Re: Spector Succession Wars Downgrade
« Reply #8 on: 04 December 2022, 13:56:10 »
Heh... we're all amateurs when it comes to playing this game...  ^-^