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Re: Might Before Metal: Home of Clan Hell's Horses III
« Reply #480 on: 05 April 2022, 16:14:27 »
Hey everyone, been away for a while. From what I am reading here skimming the thread things are looking bad for our favorite four-legged friends. I don't have Tamar Rising yet and I came out of the ilClan novel a bit concerned for the Horses. Can someone give me a too long, didn't read update on what is going on with the Horses?

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Re: Might Before Metal: Home of Clan Hell's Horses III
« Reply #481 on: 05 April 2022, 19:23:02 »
Besides becoming TPTB's official whipping clan?

Nothing.

We became part of a Council with little say, Bears are still the rival, Wolves and Falcons are snapping at everything around them while the Ravens are having a hay day with their new neighbors, the Scorpion Empire, which by the by, are so out there it's pathetic. They've contained their Empire so far, but it's just a waiting game really. Do they fail or survive enough to stay a Clan?

But for us, we've been busy expanding our little realm nicely. Everyone is watching everyone, but so far no new threats, just old ones that won't die.

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Re: Might Before Metal: Home of Clan Hell's Horses III
« Reply #482 on: 05 April 2022, 20:26:40 »
Besides becoming TPTB's official whipping clan?

Nothing.

We became part of a Council with little say, Bears are still the rival, Wolves and Falcons are snapping at everything around them while the Ravens are having a hay day with their new neighbors, the Scorpion Empire, which by the by, are so out there it's pathetic. They've contained their Empire so far, but it's just a waiting game really. Do they fail or survive enough to stay a Clan?

But for us, we've been busy expanding our little realm nicely. Everyone is watching everyone, but so far no new threats, just old ones that won't die.

TT

cough *Red Duke*. But I would read the Tamar Rising because it shows that the Hell
Horses are at a crossroads with challenges on every front.  Especially cleaning up the messes created by the Falcons and Pirates.

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Re: Might Before Metal: Home of Clan Hell's Horses III
« Reply #483 on: 06 April 2022, 03:13:48 »
I just picked up Tamar Rising. Can't wait to read it.

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Re: Might Before Metal: Home of Clan Hell's Horses III
« Reply #484 on: 06 April 2022, 04:44:00 »
I do have to say, my Scorpion side is happy with the way that is the developing. If the Horses can get a relatively stable area I would be happy.

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Re: Might Before Metal: Home of Clan Hell's Horses III
« Reply #485 on: 06 April 2022, 18:05:04 »
Personally, I think things are actually looking up for the Horses. Sure, they lost at Sudeten, but they picked up Erewhon, they have a nice buffet of a buffer between them and the Lyrans/ilWolves, and they lost their dumbass Khan and replaced him with one who seems to suck less (I mean, he's no James Cobb but who could be?).


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Re: Might Before Metal: Home of Clan Hell's Horses III
« Reply #486 on: 06 April 2022, 19:19:04 »
What the Horses took in the Wolf OZ is where the growth potential is right now as production is coming back online.

There was an effort after the Jihad to make sure all the IS Clans were reasonably self sufficient. The Horses now have the "sufficiency" of two and a half Clans. If they aren't pruned in the short term they will pose the same problem as the Dominion. A tertiary faction that can quickly grow to an unmanageable size when nobody is paying attention.

The Horses have real potential at the moment. We are yet to see how it will be used.

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Re: Might Before Metal: Home of Clan Hell's Horses III
« Reply #487 on: 07 April 2022, 00:11:07 »
I do hope we get to see them really flourish and not just get utterly smacked down by the ilWolves or Bears. I know I'm super biased, but the Horses are a great Clan, dammit! They bring a flavor to the Clans that I think is valuable in both the in-universe and game-meta sense, and it would be a shame to see them essentially shunted offscreen for the remainder of the 3150s.


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Re: Might Before Metal: Home of Clan Hell's Horses III
« Reply #488 on: 28 June 2022, 11:17:15 »
I do hope we get to see them really flourish and not just get utterly smacked down by the ilWolves or Bears. I know I'm super biased, but the Horses are a great Clan, dammit! They bring a flavor to the Clans that I think is valuable in both the in-universe and game-meta sense, and it would be a shame to see them essentially shunted offscreen for the remainder of the 3150s.

For Watsonian reasons, I’m confident Horses don’t get wiped by the usurperer and his Wolves. It’s been mentioned that the new states created are supposed to stick around a while and I don’t see how Wolves project force at the Horses without going through Tamar Pact and basically destroying it. I’m not sold that the Bears are interested in listening to Alaric unless Alaric asks them to do what they already wanted, so I don’t think Bears are wanting a full on war.

But horses just increased their territory by 50%, picked up a few key worlds like Erehwon, and while they do face threats from most directions the AML and Vesper are in no real position to attack the Horses. It’s basically Fallen Falcons, Bears, and whatever is up in Oberon.

My only worry is that the new Khan does something extremely stupid. Some pointless aggression that causes a backlash
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Re: Might Before Metal: Home of Clan Hell's Horses III
« Reply #489 on: 28 June 2022, 12:02:42 »
My only worry is that the new Khan does something extremely stupid. Some pointless aggression that causes a backlash

Given his antics in Tamar Rising, that seems all too possible.

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Re: Might Before Metal: Home of Clan Hell's Horses III
« Reply #490 on: 28 June 2022, 13:40:08 »
If the Horses simply decide to keep what they have it should be fine. I doubt the Falcon worlds can do much. Both have one big factory world but that is it. Of course if they merge that would be another story. And I think the Bears will most likely be more concerned with the Combine then with the rather neutral Horses (except perhaps for minor trials)

Then again maybe someone decides to invade Terra and Alaric conveniently forgets to deactivate the Wall.

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Re: Might Before Metal: Home of Clan Hell's Horses III
« Reply #491 on: 28 June 2022, 13:54:52 »
I wanna see people's Doom Courser Stars and Novas.

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Re: Might Before Metal: Home of Clan Hell's Horses III
« Reply #492 on: 03 July 2022, 12:20:09 »
I for one also root for seeing new mechs from the RecGuides in lore. And absolutely a Doom Courser

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Re: Might Before Metal: Home of Clan Hell's Horses III
« Reply #493 on: Today at 01:41:57 »
So, I have a few questions for you Horsefolk, as my knowledge of your Clan is not as deep as I would want it to be.

I know that front line forces mix Omnis and battle armor in trinaries / novas with a liberal glee, but what about second line clusters? I know Omnis will show up a bit in all but the most destitute of garrison units, but are pure binaries and trinaries more the norm (aside from vee / infantry supernovas, of course)?

Also, when books mention "generic clusters," are those units ones that follow standard Clan practices, rather than Horse-specific, er, horse-ery?

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Re: Might Before Metal: Home of Clan Hell's Horses III
« Reply #494 on: Today at 23:21:09 »
So, I have a few questions for you Horsefolk, as my knowledge of your Clan is not as deep as I would want it to be.

I know that front line forces mix Omnis and battle armor in trinaries / novas with a liberal glee, but what about second line clusters? I know Omnis will show up a bit in all but the most destitute of garrison units, but are pure binaries and trinaries more the norm (aside from vee / infantry supernovas, of course)?

Also, when books mention "generic clusters," are those units ones that follow standard Clan practices, rather than Horse-specific, er, horse-ery?

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