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Re: Save the Jags
« Reply #780 on: 05 June 2022, 23:51:17 »
Do we even know the size of this Crusader Shark Relief Force? I really doubt it was that big in the first place (cluster possible maybe 2?) and it is easy to imagine how word got to Vlad. Yeah I am looking at you Merchant Factor Angus Labov!

Lets say that Hawker wins the fight he has scheduled with Vlad this time and thus the Crusader Wolves are won to this Crusader Relief effort banner. Other Crusader Clans may than start to be won over on the basis of this victory with the goal of driving out the InnerSphere taint and securing the Homeworlds for all time.

This far larger relief force annihilates the forces of the false Star League and a new hero is born, long live ilKhan Ian Hawker! As a Diamond Shark and the Great Protector of the Clans there could well be motions for Absorptions and perhaps even a new Clan or two is born. I think he would announce the Clan intention to abide by the Truce of Tukayyid giving the Sharks and their Clan allies time to build up and reorder things. Perhaps other Clans are added to the Invasion but what is certain is permeant contact with the InnerSphere, no pulling back.

I would approach the Nova Cat Abjuration a bit differently than canon as well maybe giving those loyalist Crusaders (must have been a few) a chance at redemption. Personally I hate waste as do the Clans and because of his efforts to save the Clan Homeworlds and some of the Clans from themselves this could stand. Another opportunity for Absorption certainly and perhaps the dawn of some new Clans as I said before.

Here is an interesting idea - the Diamond Sharks split off their Wardens to form Clan Sea Fox so they may go their own way. They are very friendly with the Nova Cats and an Absorption followed by a split would certainly be very possible. I like that a bunch! 

I'd have Victor taken as a bondsman by the Cloud Cobras who takes a Phelan route within this Clan but the loss of so many key regiments and figures would do great damage to the Star League. Oh and Lincoln Osis would be dead here either killed in combat or stripped by Hawker for keeping secrecy and sucking but perhaps Brandon Howell would finally get a chance to lead the Jags or what is left now indebted to the Sharks.

How's that for starters?

This was really great and I hope we get some Ian Hawker POV stories in a future sharpnel

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Re: Save the Jags
« Reply #781 on: 09 July 2022, 16:48:31 »
If in my scenario say the blood spirits wiped out serpent and reclaimed the jags genetic repository with the Jag remains what if any of the following could they claim as the victors:

1) Any salvage
2) Several " production runs" of prized sibkos
           By my understanding and correct me if I am wrong the Clans have the ability to mass produce warriors but they are limited by the trainers, time and equipment of the clan itself right?
            So could the Spirits demand " Give me 2 sibkos of Osis with a side of Moon elementals"
                  Not claiming the blood right but the actual sibkos new babies or young tykes
3) The actual blood rights
         If the jags lost a refusal trial could the Spirits claim the exclusive blood lines or did that still need GC approval?

Can any one add insight on question 2?

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Re: “Save” the Jags
« Reply #782 on: 09 July 2022, 17:18:00 »
Given that 80-90% of a sibko fails to make it to warrior status, there's typically not going to be much interest by Clan in claiming a sibko from another Clan as a prize.  Demanding a certain number of warriors like they do in harvest trials would be more likely.
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Re: “Save” the Jags
« Reply #783 on: 09 July 2022, 18:03:51 »
Given that 80-90% of a sibko fails to make it to warrior status, there's typically not going to be much interest by Clan in claiming a sibko from another Clan as a prize.  Demanding a certain number of warriors like they do in harvest trials would be more likely.
didn't the Falcons (or whats left of them in their OZ) just Trial for some Bear sibkos to shore up their numbers or something?
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Re: “Save” the Jags
« Reply #784 on: 09 July 2022, 18:27:04 »
Under extremely unusual circumstances.  The Remnant Falcons are at a point where they're desperate for warriors.  And they targeted sibkos that had reached the point where they were almost ready for their first trials of position.  They weren't trialing for babies or toddlers.
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Re: “Save” the Jags
« Reply #785 on: 09 July 2022, 18:32:15 »
didn't the Falcons (or whats left of them in their OZ) just Trial for some Bear sibkos to shore up their numbers or something?

This is the A plot of the upcoming novel A Question of Survival

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Re: “Save” the Jags
« Reply #786 on: 10 July 2022, 02:39:41 »
Is there a new (if any) symbol for Prohaska Moon's Jaguar's 2.0 ?
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Re: Save the Jags
« Reply #787 on: 27 August 2022, 17:43:09 »
Story line wise that's how I would write it. Osis defeated and ousted and the much cooler brandon Howell leading a new " reasonable" jags as part of another clan

I am loving the flamboyant and fab jiyi Christu leading the Neo “
Reasonable” falcons post Ilclan trial. Alas if only we could have had that with brandon Howell

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Re: “Save” the Jags
« Reply #788 on: 13 September 2022, 17:47:02 »
Under extremely unusual circumstances.  The Remnant Falcons are at a point where they're desperate for warriors.  And they targeted sibkos that had reached the point where they were almost ready for their first trials of position.  They weren't trialing for babies or toddlers.

This is something the jags I feel could have potential pulled off once or twice in the HW but how could they have rapidly replaced their terrible equipment losses?

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Re: “Save” the Jags
« Reply #789 on: 13 September 2022, 18:46:36 »
Simply put, they couldn't replace either. They'd reached the point where their lack of infrastructure and production was fatal.  The only thing that could have saved them was a couple of years of being ignored while they focused on rebuilding, and that was never going to happen.
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