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Re: The Rasalhague dominion: Making our neighbors move since 3063
« Reply #240 on: 24 June 2021, 17:12:54 »
Anyone have an idea what we're doing with Courchevel and L'Outre Manufacturing? Clan Nova Cat upgraded it to clan spec military electronics, do you think we shut it down, sold it off, moved it or used it to further the true goal of the Great Father, supplying the inner sphere with Clan Spec 96K Ultra super high def TV's?

Well the nova cat is still waiting on it’s time in the sun via the Rec Guides, it’s possible we could get it and upgrade the factory. But generally if a factory just makes bits and bobs stays making bits and bobs. They probably export some electronics to other factories.

The Nova Cat would help round out our domestic forces. And give us something to roll with our kingfishers and hopefully we can keep the Warhawk, despite its flaws.

I suppose what Zeruel said is the largest problem I have, not necessarily that we don’t necessarily have a 3/5 Omni. It’s that all our MUL omnis have glaring flaws.

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« Reply #241 on: 28 July 2021, 01:53:00 »
From Jellico on the Wolves thread:

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Sorry if I am coming across as testy. I have just been researching Dominion losses in Operation Noyan.
The Bears lost 4 lines on New Oslo but regained 2 through the magic of RecGuides.

In comparison since 3130 the Wolves at least doubled their production lines by 3145 despite losing half a dozen in the OZ. They were mostly IS tech, but RecGuides is showing a significant proportion have been upgraded by 3150. The Empire has also managed to take Skye, which is about 25% of Falcon production and nearly eliminates the Wolf Aero weakness. That is before you count Terra.

So a couple of classic Wolf chassis (and Sojourner) are nice from a feel good perspective,  but they are just a cherry on top of of a very big cake.

Pardon for asking but which two lines were gained, The Dragonfly, Fire moth and the Executioner lines were always in production since we came to the IS (I'm not sure if it's a Rec Guide retcon or not), I can only think of the two Horned Owl lines, but it's early in the morning for me and those could be the ones
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Re: The Rasalhague dominion: Making our neighbors move since 3063
« Reply #242 on: 28 July 2021, 16:58:44 »
We never had a published Viper line in the Inner Sphere.
The two Firemoth lines have been rubble since the Jihad.
I would have to check my notes to see when these lines came online.

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« Reply #243 on: 30 July 2021, 12:56:04 »
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« Reply #244 on: 01 August 2021, 00:08:57 »
From Jellico on the Wolves thread:

Pardon for asking but which two lines were gained, The Dragonfly, Fire moth and the Executioner lines were always in production since we came to the IS (I'm not sure if it's a Rec Guide retcon or not), I can only think of the two Horned Owl lines, but it's early in the morning for me and those could be the ones

The two we regained are completly unrelated to Operation NOYAN. We had the NOYAN conversation a bit up thread, maybe at the end of the last iteration of this thread even.

The two Rec-Guide lines were the rebuilt Thule (and also goito which I think got lost and retcon removed, not rebuilt) and Jarrett (rebuilt from the ground up for the Horned Owl, factory was destroyed prior to the Invasion in the 50s)  that only made Fire Moths. They got blown to bits as the Jihad was winding down. We will see what other lines we can get up and running, we should have atleast two new domestic mechs. The fluff previously mentioned wanting Thule to become a industrial hub with much more than one line, so my money is that factory will expand rather than any new lines.
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Re: The Rasalhague dominion: Making our neighbors move since 3063
« Reply #245 on: 06 August 2021, 19:54:25 »
So trothkin,while waiting for ilclan to come out I visited a bear park and bottle fed our future Khan. Her name is Remy and currently leads her Sibko.
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« Reply #246 on: 06 August 2021, 20:37:10 »
May she prosper.
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« Reply #247 on: 07 August 2021, 12:12:58 »
Bottle?
BOTTLE?!
And she didn't start a Trial of Refusal?

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« Reply #248 on: 07 August 2021, 12:44:04 »
I took a video and sent it to restless of her winning multiple trials of grievance, I wanted no smoke ^_^. The place I went started as a retirement home for bears used in Hollywood. Then expanded as the bears decided to start their own Creche.
 Learned a few things I didnt know like bears can have multiple fathers from one litter and I immediately thought of sibkos..and cats.
 
 My first thoughts on the new ilclan are I'm glad the bears are being their aloof selves for once.
 
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« Reply #249 on: 07 August 2021, 16:51:13 »
Still no mentions of the Lev III super-murder-boat-delux. Was kinda hoping to see something here.

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« Reply #250 on: 07 August 2021, 16:59:53 »
Is that the version with the brothel?

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« Reply #251 on: 07 August 2021, 17:16:22 »
Is that the version with the brothel?

 It's the one that transforms into a maid. The levs' are most likely gonna stay hidden untill the plot needs them.
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« Reply #252 on: 08 August 2021, 13:17:24 »
It's the one that transforms into a maid. The levs' are most likely gonna stay hidden untill the plot needs them.

with the hints in IlClan about the Dracs, do you think that could be the plot point that needs them, anyone know what ships they have?
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« Reply #253 on: 08 August 2021, 16:14:15 »
with the hints in IlClan about the Dracs, do you think that could be the plot point that needs them, anyone know what ships they have?

They have 2 or 3 small frigates and corvettes. So probably not. It’ll probably be directly ilClan related, either to save or take over. We have moved alpha and beta close and we have a wait to get inside the wall before it falls if we want. With two Leviathans plus whatever else it’s only our restraint that is keeping the 1.5 clans alive inside.


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« Reply #254 on: 08 August 2021, 17:37:11 »
They have 2 or 3 small frigates and corvettes. So probably not. It’ll probably be directly ilClan related, either to save or take over. We have moved alpha and beta close and we have a wait to get inside the wall before it falls if we want. With two Leviathans plus whatever else it’s only our restraint that is keeping the 1.5 clans alive inside.

Only if we resort to orbital bombardment or direct naval warfare: the Ravens could oppose us surely but the Falcons and Wolves fleets are quite damaged (no I have not read IlClan yet). I’m not sure of the Horses naval capacity ATM, but the DCA will not be able to oppose us unless they mass carrier wings and their entire fleet of PWS.

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« Reply #255 on: 08 August 2021, 23:14:26 »
Only if we resort to orbital bombardment or direct naval warfare: the Ravens could oppose us surely but the Falcons and Wolves fleets are quite damaged (no I have not read IlClan yet). I’m not sure of the Horses naval capacity ATM, but the DCA will not be able to oppose us unless they mass carrier wings and their entire fleet of PWS.

The ravens are happy to pay lip service right now. We have closer ties to them so they won’t move if we move on ilClan (all things holding constant). We can move a few more Galaxies to deal with ground troops if we need to. Or we could wipe out their battered navy and leave them stranded on terra, never to leave.

HH have their own stuff to deal with securing thier Lyran border and finding a better way to harass the ilClan.

Between the two Leviathans we have as much aero as the DCMS, not including any other jumpers loaded with escorts.
But either way it doesn’t look like the Lev 3 will be used in an anti-Drac measure. Well probably use it in the worst possible way like we always do

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« Reply #256 on: 01 September 2021, 11:13:13 »
Since we get our paws on the Griffin C, what do you all think of a star of Griffins and Beowulf IIC's? 6/9/6 or 9, how many of each? would you add in another Mech? Kuma maybe? what would you use the star for? Recon, harassment? mainly just a random thought exorcise since i like the look of both mechs
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« Reply #257 on: 01 September 2021, 12:09:57 »
Since we get our paws on the Griffin C, what do you all think of a star of Griffins and Beowulf IIC's? 6/9/6 or 9, how many of each? would you add in another Mech? Kuma maybe? what would you use the star for? Recon, harassment? mainly just a random thought exorcise since i like the look of both mechs
I hate mixed tech, especially things that use IS XLs.

I’d rather pair the Beowulf with the shadow hawk iic 6 or shadow cats (iii if possible). We ran the refit plant at new Oslo for a few decades where the shadow hawk iic was refit. Shadow cats are easier to maintain and you will be able to repair the engine longer. We also should have a fair number since it’s now over 100 years old, plus we so enjoy beating up Nova Cats. Shadow cats have the masc to keep ground pace, which is more important strategically (although not super useful in large movements either way, although I assume you can feather it in universe and get a small speed boost without any chance of failure)).

If youhave to use the griffin id  pair them 3/2 I’d go 3 griffins and 2 Beowulf and use them for harassment. They can spot ambushes if you need to but the Beowulf isn’t quite fast enough to scout in the new hyper fast environment.  Our new viper K is probably the best scout mech out there. I would never use the Kuma, there is no redeeming feature about it what so ever. You might have trouble hitting it, but it’ll never hit you.

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« Reply #258 on: 01 September 2021, 16:01:33 »
Shadow Hawks, Beowulf, Horned Owls, Clint IICs (we scored a batch in the 60s), we have a lot of second line 6/9/6.

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« Reply #259 on: 01 September 2021, 18:40:38 »
I'm a big fan of the Beowulf iic. It can run a little hot but it has character and really fun to play. Just dont run the PR version,you'll get hooked.
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« Reply #260 on: 02 September 2021, 04:13:03 »
I'm a big fan of the Beowulf iic. It can run a little hot but it has character and really fun to play. Just dont run the PR version,you'll get hooked.

With the RotS dead, I wonder if we'll pick up C3i again for the 3 kungsarmy clusters
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« Reply #261 on: 02 September 2021, 19:00:49 »
With the RotS dead, I wonder if we'll pick up C3i again for the 3 kungsarmy clusters
I kinda hope so,Restless made some PR variants of other mechs the bear use that are fun. I'm not good at using c3 but I had a blast when I used it on bear mechs.
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« Reply #262 on: 02 September 2021, 19:36:20 »
I kinda hope so,Restless made some PR variants of other mechs the bear use that are fun. I'm not good at using c3 but I had a blast when I used it on bear mechs.

C3i makes it so easy to use(comparatively). I don’t like them thematically for real forces, keeping them confined to bums and the watch is ok.  Plus it will lessen some of the burden, by allowing one rule to die out by the time ilClan rolls around.

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« Reply #263 on: 02 September 2021, 19:47:02 »
Isn’t their a multiplier of BV when using C3 systems? Wouldn’t that mean a Clan equipped C3 mech be super expensive BV wise?

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« Reply #264 on: 02 September 2021, 19:52:08 »
Isn’t their a multiplier of BV when using C3 systems? Wouldn’t that mean a Clan equipped C3 mech be super expensive BV wise?

Yes, it’s expensive on top of being more expensive cause of all the clanness.

The Beowulf iic with all its inefficiencies is almost 2k BV. That’s more than all but the assault Celestials. And that’s not including the 5% or whatever they pay per linkage

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« Reply #265 on: 02 September 2021, 20:32:54 »
Isn’t their a multiplier of BV when using C3 systems? Wouldn’t that mean a Clan equipped C3 mech be super expensive BV wise?

 Very! But we're bears,we are used to expensive bv mechs ^_^.
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Re: The Rasalhague dominion: Making our neighbors move since 3063
« Reply #266 on: 02 September 2021, 21:35:44 »
Then why not use NOVA CEWS?

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Re: The Rasalhague dominion: Making our neighbors move since 3063
« Reply #267 on: 02 September 2021, 21:55:25 »
Then why not use NOVA CEWS?

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Because it's not available and even if it was we would wait decades before using it. ;) Honestly I haven't used a Nova CEW in a few years real time. Personally I'd rather push for us to use iATM's before nova cews.
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« Reply #268 on: 03 September 2021, 00:30:18 »
Then why not use NOVA CEWS?

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3 unit max is super limiting. I’d rather have one unused for a whole star with c3i than have to split a star in two.

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« Reply #269 on: 03 September 2021, 06:37:42 »
iATMs would be nice to have, We know that Warbear qnd clan wolf is not afraid to use a base 6 unit system or base 5 + 1, C3i on 3 mechs and 3 BA? That way all of the systems are used and it's a short nova with 5 of them making a super nova trinery?
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