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Cannonshop

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FAST challenge.
« on: 03 December 2020, 10:58:18 »
Your bosses want to build a record-setting combat vehicle platform with the following characteristics;

1. it needs to be a viable combat unit.  This means mounting a useful payload of weapons.

2. It needs to be competitive with, or even exceed, the fastest vehicle of a similar type.  It must be ridiculously fast, ludicrously fast, absurdly fast, it needs to be fast enough to be a record setter.

Criteria:

1.  No existing canon tech is excluded in the quest to 'go fasta'.
2. WiGE and Hover are excluded.  Tracked, wheeled, boat, Hydrofoil or VTOL entries only.
3. This must be Viable as a combat platform, that is, it must fill an actual role in the battlefield space, and do so competently.

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Re: FAST challenge.
« Reply #1 on: 03 December 2020, 11:21:33 »
A 20-ton, 16/24 VTOL with a slightly oversized infantry compartment. Twin ER medium lasers and a TAG.

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Hayabusa HYB-S4

Mass: 20 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Motive Type: VTOL
Rules Level: Tournament Legal
Era: Clan Invasion
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-E-D
Production Year: 0
Dry Cost: 2,733,333 C-Bills
Total Cost: 2,733,333 C-Bills
Battle Value: 646

Power Plant:  225 Fusion XL Engine
Cruise Speed: 172.8 km/h
Flanking Speed: 259.2 km/h
Armor:  Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
    2  ER Medium Lasers
    1  TAG
    1  Infantry Compartment (1.5 tons)
Manufacturer:
    Primary Factory:
Communications System:
Targeting and Tracking System:

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
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Internal Structure: Standard                      10 points                2.00
Engine:             XL Fusion Engine             225                       7.50
    Cruise MP:  16
    Flank MP:   24
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             10                        0.00
Control Equipment:                                                         1.00
Lift Equipment:                                                            2.00
Armor:              Ferro-Fibrous                AV -  53                  3.00

                                                      Armor     
                                                      Factor     
                                               Front     17       
                                          Left/Right   12/12       
                                                Rear     10       
                                               Rotor     2         

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2 ER Medium Lasers                           FR        10        2         2.00
TAG                                          FR        0         1         1.00
Infantry Compartment (1.5 tons)              BD        0         1         1.50

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      2    Points: 6
16v        1       1       0       0      1     0   Structure:  1
Special Abilities: TAG, ENE

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RevenVrake

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Re: FAST challenge.
« Reply #2 on: 04 December 2020, 12:49:21 »
Uh...define FAST please.

Cause I got a tank that does totally exceed the normal speeds capable of units of a similar weight.

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Soarece Super Heavy MBT - Fast and Fury Edition

Mass: 175 tons
Movement Type: Tracked
Power Plant: 350 XL
Cruising Speed: 21.6 kph
Maximum Speed: 43.2 kph
Armor: Hardened
Armament:
     1 Silver Bullet Gauss Rifle
     1 Plasma Rifle
     1 Long Tom Cannon
     1 Anti-Missile System
Manufacturer: Unknown
     Primary Factory: Unknown
Communication System: Unknown
Targeting & Tracking System: Unknown
Introduction Year: 3132
Tech Rating/Availability: E/X-X-X-E
Cost: 62,762,792 C-bills

Type: Soarece
Technology Base: Inner Sphere (Experimental)
Movement Type: Tracked
Tonnage: 175
Battle Value: 3,087

Equipment                                          Mass
Internal Structure                                   35
Engine                        350 XL               22.5
Cruising MP: 2
Flank MP: 3(4)
Heat Sinks:                   10                      0
Control Equipment:                                  9.0
Power Amplifier:                                    0.0
Turret:                                             4.5
Armor Factor (Hardened)       320                    40

                          Internal   Armor   
                          Structure  Value   
     Front                   18        55   
     Front R/L Side        18/18     45/45   
     Rear R/L Side         18/18     40/40   
     Rear                    18        40   
     Turret                  18        55   


Weapons
and Ammo                              Location    Tonnage   
Plasma Rifle                           Turret       6.0     
Long Tom Cannon                        Turret       20.0   
Silver Bullet Gauss Rifle              Turret       15.0   
Anti-Missile System                    Turret       0.5     
ECM Suite                              Turret       1.5     
Anti-Missile System Ammo (12)           Body        1.0     
Long Tom Cannon Ammo (20)               Body        4.0     
Supercharger                            Body        2.5     
CASE                                    Body        0.5     
Silver Bullet Gauss Rifle Ammo (24)     Body        3.0     
Plasma Rifle Ammo (30)                  Body        3.0     
Combat Vehicle Chassis Mod              Body        7.0     

Tah-Da! A Super Heavy Main Battle Tank, armed with a Long Tom Cannon, a Plasma Rifle and a Silver Bullet Gauss Rifle all wrapped in FORTY tons of Hardened Armor that is fully able to do over 40kph! You see anything landbound that is A Hundred and Seventy Five tons move THAT fast before?

Behold, the FAST Super-Heavy Main Battle Tank!

kindalas

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Re: FAST challenge.
« Reply #3 on: 04 December 2020, 13:20:12 »

The Aries was named after an ancient military hydrofoil from old Earth.

The Ares was built for export to worlds with long coastal areas.

It is armed with a single Long Tom Artillery piece with a generous 10 ten of ammunition.

The craft is protected by advanced vehicular stealth armor and a Guardian ECM system.

It has a small compartment for an infantry platoon who frequently disembark from the craft to engage in spotting missions for Artillery attacks.

The Ares is popular on many worlds throughout the InnerSphere including Skye, Kowloon and New Avalon.


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Aries Hydrofoil

Mass: 100 tons
Movement Type: Hydrofoil
Power Plant: 220 Fusion
Cruising Speed: 75.6 kph
Maximum Speed: 118.8 kph
Armor: Vehicular Stealth
Armament:
     1 Long Tom
Introduction Year: 3070
Tech Rating/Availability: E/X-X-F-E
Cost: 7,423,889 C-bills

Type: Aries Hydrofoil
Technology Base: Inner Sphere (Experimental)
Movement Type: Hydrofoil
Tonnage: 100
Battle Value: 1,936

Equipment                                          Mass
Internal Structure                                   10
Engine                        220 Fusion             15
Cruising MP: 7
Flank MP: 11
Heat Sinks:                   10                      0
Control Equipment:                                  5.0
Lift Equipment:                                    10.0
Power Amplifier:                                    0.0
Turret:                                             3.0
Armor Factor (Vehicular Stealth)176                    11

                          Internal   Armor   
                          Structure  Value   
     Front                   10        43   
     R/L Side              10/10     35/35   
     Rear                    10        28   
     Turret                  10        35   


Weapons
and Ammo              Location    Tonnage   
Long Tom               Turret       30.0   
CASE                    Body        0.5     
Long Tom Ammo (50)      Body        10.0   
ECM Suite               Body        1.5     
Infantry                Body        4.0     


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Re: FAST challenge.
« Reply #4 on: 05 December 2020, 11:17:30 »
The fastest canonical tracked vehicles I could find were 7/11 so I was initially thinking of "merely" making a 9/14 tank, but then I found an old existing design of mine that hit that speed so I had to make sure to out do that. So here's my ludicrously fast light tank:
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Arachnid Light Tank

Mass: 20 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Motive Type: Tracked
Rules Level: Experimental Tech
Era: Clan Invasion
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-E-D
Production Year: 3090
Dry Cost: 1,897,200 C-Bills
Total Cost: 1,897,200 C-Bills
Battle Value: 577

Power Plant:  240 Fusion XL Engine
Cruise Speed: 129.6 km/h
Flanking Speed: 194.4 km/h
Armor:  Heavy Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
    1  Light PPC
    1  Small X-Pulse Laser
Manufacturer:
    Primary Factory:
Communications System:
Targeting and Tracking System:

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
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Internal Structure: Standard                      10 points                2.00
Engine:             XL Fusion Engine             240                       9.00
    Cruise MP:  12
    Flank MP:   18
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             10                        0.00
Control Equipment:                                                         1.00
Lift Equipment:                                                            0.00
Turret:                                                                    0.50
Armor:              Heavy Ferro-Fibrous          AV -  69                  3.50

                                                      Armor     
                                                      Factor     
                                               Front     17       
                                          Left/Right   13/13       
                                              Turret     16       
                                                Rear     10       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Light PPC                                    T         5         1         3.00
Small X-Pulse Laser                          T         3         1         1.00

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      2    Points: 6
12t        1       1       1       0      1     0   Structure:  1
Special Abilities: ENE, TUR(1/1/1)

kaliban

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Re: FAST challenge.
« Reply #5 on: 08 December 2020, 19:31:42 »
Do you want it fast? What about if it is for less than 50,000 cbills?

So, this 4ton VTOL gives you a speed of 23/35 (you can cross 2 entire maps per turn!) carrying a Recon Camera that can be used not only for recon but also as a spotter with a low-tech TAG.

No wasted tonnage with armor: it is very hard to hit target and it is anyway too small to carry any useful amount of armor

Battle value is only 18pts but it can be a valuable addition to your combat forces!



Gazelle
3025 IS V.T.O.L.

Original:  https://battletech.rpg.hu/mechfactory_frame.php?call=displayvehicle&id=103162

Source: My Own Custom /
Type/Model: Gazelle
Tech: Inner Sphere / 3025
Config: V.T.O.L.
Rules: Level 3, Advanced design

Mass: 4 tons
Chassis: Standard
Power Plant: 45 I.C.E.
Cruise Speed: 248,4 km/h
Flank Speed: 378,0 km/h
Jump Jets: none
Armor Type:  none!!!
Armament: 1 Recon Camera


 
---------------------------------------------------------
Type/Model:  Gazelle
Mass: 4 tons

Equipment:                                 Crits    Mass
Int. Struct.:   5 pts Standard               0      0,50
Engine:         45 I.C.E.                       0      2,00
   Cruise MP:   23
   Flank MP:    35
   Jumping MP:   0
Heat Sinks:      0 Single                     0      0,00
Cockpit & Controls:                           0      0,50
Crew:1                                            0      0,00
Rotor Equipment: Main/Tail Rotors            0      0,40
Armor Factor:    0 Standard                  0      0,00

                          Internal    Armor
                          Structure   Value
   Front:                     1          0
   Left/Right Side:     1/1        0/0
   Rear:                      1          0
   Rotor:                     1          0

Weapons and Equipment    Loc  Heat  Ammo   Crits     Mass
---------------------------------------------------------
1 Recon Camera           Front    0           1      0,50
---------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                           0           1      0,50 

Calculated Factors
Total Cost:        48.733 C-Bill
Battle Value (BV1):2
Battle Value (BV2):18   
« Last Edit: 09 December 2020, 00:08:58 by kaliban »

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Re: FAST challenge.
« Reply #6 on: 08 December 2020, 23:35:24 »
from the Journal of Col. Wulfric von Khristenson, Wulfric's Legions, INC.
June 22nd, 3085
Dorwinion, SB'ers Special Housing Area.


So I'm sitting here, signing off on a purchase order for two replacement FERRET VTOLs for Captain Murdock's Scout Company.  I was toying with the idea of paying extra for the Enhanced Survivability Escape Frame system when I heard a god awful racket from outside.  A FERRET VTOL in WLI cadet blue with painted shark's teeth and sporting VTOL boosters performs a SCREAMING overflight my offices at 90 meters altitude and 200+ kph.
I'm able to scramble to a window in time to see the FERRET perform Murdock's signature "Immelman with FLAIR", light off its Boosters; and make a screaming return pass (must've been well over 400 kph), after which it heads in the direction of Murdock's side of the airstrip.
 
My call to Murdock's offices is immediately answered by his Chief Tech...
"No sir, we only removed the laser."
"Yes sir, The TAG is still in place."
"Firepower? Sir, he has that cannon of a pistol with him... the Sternsnacht.
Plus, he's rigged his LosTech gyrojet carbine so he can shoot it out the side window if he wants."
"The shark teeth? He said those were BILLY's idea, and you'd understand."

I end the call and rub my temples ... time to change that requisition order.
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Ferret Light Scout VTOL "Murdock Special"

Mass: 5 tons
Tech Base: Mixed
Motive Type: VTOL
Rules Level: Experimental Tech
Era: All
Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-F-F-A
Production Year: 3085
Cost: 852,222 C-Bills
Battle Value: 123

Power Plant: Ty-Raven 50 XXL Fusion Engine
Cruise Speed: 216.0 km/h
Flanking Speed: 324.0 km/h
Max Boost Speed: 430.8 km/h
Armor: ProtecTech Mk. IIIC Light Ferro-Fibrous
Armament: None
Manufacturer: Cal-Boeing of Dorwinion
    Primary Factory: Belladonna
Communications System: Achernar Standard Plus
Targeting and Tracking System: IsBM Lanirn X-Bino

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
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Internal Structure: Standard                       5 points                0.50
Engine:             XXL Engine                    50                       1.00
    Cruise MP:  20
    Flank MP:   30
    Booster MP: 40
Heat Sinks:         (IS) Single Heat Sink        10                        0.00
Control Equipment:                                                         0.50
Lift Equipment:                                                            0.50
Armor:         Clan Ferro-Fibrous                AV - 18                   1.00

                                                      Armor     
                                                      Factor     
                                               Front     5         
                                          Left/Right    4/4         
                                                Rear     3         
                                               Rotor     2         

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
TAG                                          FR        0         1         1.00
VTOL Jet Booster    BODY     0     1          0.50

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