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First Response (design challenge)
« on: 21 July 2020, 21:41:11 »
inspired by a thread on APC vs. IFV, an in particular a poster suggesting that a slow APC is fine for policing...

let's look at the criteria here.  Police are first response entities for domestic disorder.  Whether that disorder is a bank-robbery, burglary, someone joyriding through a school-zone in a 20 ton Wasp, or rioting, does anyone seriously think that your cops should top out at 20-30KPH when they have to be available to respond to emergencies with no forewarning, that can happen within, say, an urban area the size of...oh...let's go with Manhattan.

Criteria: Must be a reasonable vehicle for first response to domestic issues ranging from wife-beating ****** to hostage situations to riots.

Must be inexpensive.

Must be relatively durable.

Must contain or display capabilities suitable for an armed first-response unit in your favorite idea of an urban dystopia/utopia.

must be inexpensive.

Must have a long patrol range/duration suitable for sustained Peacekeeping operations.  Armies fight wars, police keep the peace (though, occasionally, they will be called on to fight battles, or at least, to evacuate citizens during a battle.)

Must have capacity for a variety of first response situations, including but not limited to dealing with rioters and fires, as well as having sufficient cargo storage to carry emergency medical gear, roadside assistance gear (for the less oppressive dystopias), and cordon/crime scene isolation gear.

Must be inexpensive to maintain.

Must be suitable to respond quickly to a developing situation (such as a potential protest gone bad, or a tenement fire.)
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Re: First Response (design challenge)
« Reply #1 on: 23 July 2020, 20:28:19 »
The updated ATERV (All Terrain Emergency Response Vehicle) was unveiled in early 3048 by Carson Vehicles throughout the Federated Commonwealth. As a long time producer of commercial vehicles the ATERV was Carson's first build to military specifications.

The 17 ton wheeled chassis was powered by a lightweight Fuel Cell engine and protected by three and a half tons of reliable starguard plate armor.

Even though the ATERV was built using heavy duty military equipment the design is very much based on a community services model.

It is armed with turret mounted LMG that is supplied with enough ammo for over 16 minutes of suppressive fire. But the support gear is where the design thrives. It has a 2 ton infantry bay for police, paramedics or firefighters, a heavy duty communications array and a fire fighting sprayer that is commonly found on dedicated fire trucks. The Sprayer is only fed by a single one ton water tank, but water utilities can be attached to the vehicle for continuous use.

The primary selling point of the ATERV is the Military Specification CASE system that is designed to keep the vehicle's crew and passengers alive through extreme situations that could involve the destruction of the vehicle.

There are two variants available to purchase from Carson Dealerships.

The first remove the fire fighting equipment and the communications array and replaces it with a larger infantry bay and an expensive Beagle Active Probe.

The second variant is equipped with a Guardian ECM system and the expanded infantry bay of the BAP model.

Both variants are sold in small numbers. The advanced electronics doubles the price of the vehicle but the utility they offer is often worth the expense.

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Mass: 17 tons
Movement Type: Wheeled
Power Plant: 100 Fuel Cell
Cruising Speed: 75.6 kph
Maximum Speed: 118.8 kph
Armor: Standard
     1 Light Machine Gun
     1 Sprayer (water)
Manufacturer: Carson Vehicles
Introduction Year: 3048
Cost: 232,280 C-bills

Technology Base: Inner Sphere (Standard)
Movement Type: Wheeled
Tonnage: 17
Battle Value: 198

Equipment                                          Mass
Internal Structure                                    2
Engine                        100 Fuel Cell           4
Cruising MP: 7
Flank MP: 11
Heat Sinks:                   1                       0
Control Equipment:                                  1.0
Power Amplifier:                                    0.0
Turret:                                             0.5
Armor Factor                  56                    3.5

                          Internal   Armor   
                          Structure  Value   
     Front                   2         12   
     R/L Side               2/2      11/11   
     Rear                    2         10   
     Turret                  2         12   

and Ammo                       Location    Tonnage   
Light Fluid Suction System       Rear       0.015   
Light Machine Gun Ammo (100)     Body        0.5     
Liquid Storage                   Body        1.0     
CASE                             Body        0.5     
Communications Equipment         Body        1.0     
Light Machine Gun               Turret       0.5     
Sprayer                         Turret      0.015   
Infantry                         Body        2.0