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Daryk

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Mini-StuG
« on: 12 February 2022, 12:19:25 »
So I've been playing around with Artillery Cannons for a while now.  This time, I challenged myself to going as cheap as possible (outisde of an infantry Field Gun version, of course).  Turns out you can fit a Thumper Artillery Cannon into a Heavy APC chassis if you drop the engine a bit.  Going with tracks instead drops the speed and increases the cost.

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Mini-StuG

Mass: 20 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Motive Type: Wheeled
Rules Level: Experimental Tech
Era: Succession Wars
Tech Rating/Era Availability: D/X-F-E-D
Production Year: 3025
Dry Cost: 308,000 C-Bills
Total Cost: 318,000 C-Bills
Battle Value: 189

Power Plant:  60 I.C.E.
Cruise Speed: 43.2 km/h
Flanking Speed: 64.8 km/h
Armor:  Standard Armor
Armament:
    1  Thumper Art. Cannon
Manufacturer:
    Primary Factory:
Communications System:
Targeting and Tracking System:

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Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
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Internal Structure: Standard                       8 points                2.00
Engine:             I.C.E. Engine                 60                       3.00
    Cruise MP:  4
    Flank MP:   6
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             0                         0.00
Control Equipment:                                                         1.00
Lift Equipment:                                                            0.00
Armor:              Standard Armor               AV -  48                  3.00

                                                      Armor     
                                                      Factor     
                                               Front     18       
                                          Left/Right   10/10       
                                                Rear     10       

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Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass 
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Thumper Art. Cannon                          FR        5         1        10.00
@Thumper Cannon (20)                         BD        -         0         1.00

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      2    Points: 2
4w         1       1       0       0      1     0   Structure:  1
Special Abilities: ARTTC, EE

DevianID

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Re: Mini-StuG
« Reply #1 on: 12 February 2022, 14:30:02 »
The stug used the panzer 3 chassis right?  Maybe a 25 ton scorpion as the host vehicle for the mini-stug?

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Re: Mini-StuG
« Reply #2 on: 12 February 2022, 14:40:21 »
The StuG III used the Panzer III chassis, and the StuG IV used the Panzer IV chassis.  I went for "minii" because this weighs less than those...  ^-^

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Re: Mini-StuG
« Reply #3 on: 16 February 2022, 08:45:34 »
artillery cannons are good options for unskilled gunners !

Never tried but probably a swarm of these is very effective against fast targets if you concentrate fire.

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Re: Mini-StuG
« Reply #4 on: 16 February 2022, 20:11:51 »
Absolutely!  You don't get the -4 for an unmoving hex, but you ALSO don't take TMMs...  ^-^

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Re: Mini-StuG
« Reply #5 on: 16 February 2022, 20:38:20 »
Absolutely!  You don't get the -4 for an unmoving hex, but you ALSO don't take TMMs...  ^-^
Errata here, page 50 says you don't apply the -4 for artillery cannons.

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Re: Mini-StuG
« Reply #6 on: 16 February 2022, 21:09:48 »
That's... what I said?  ???

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Re: Mini-StuG
« Reply #7 on: 16 February 2022, 21:40:30 »
That's... what I said?  ???
Eck, parse fail, apologies.

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Re: Mini-StuG
« Reply #8 on: 17 February 2022, 04:05:21 »
No worries!  It happens to all of us...  :)

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Re: Mini-StuG
« Reply #9 on: 17 February 2022, 05:56:56 »
Isn't the artillery cannon more like a stuH or sturm gun?  Not that it is a bad gun, just not the right kind of gun for a Stug I feel.

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Re: Mini-StuG
« Reply #10 on: 17 February 2022, 15:21:57 »
Isn't the artillery cannon more like a stuH or sturm gun?  Not that it is a bad gun, just not the right kind of gun for a Stug I feel.

depends on the model, the first StuG IIIs had a short barrel 50mm gun to fire HE shells against soft targets - it is pretty much an artillery cannon. It became an anti-tank vehicle later during the WWII

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Re: Mini-StuG
« Reply #11 on: 17 February 2022, 18:37:18 »
I think the AOE damage is what makes the difference.  I'm on the side that thinks an Artillery Cannon fits a StuG design (of course)...  :)

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Re: Mini-StuG
« Reply #12 on: 17 February 2022, 19:13:27 »
depends on the model, the first StuG IIIs had a short barrel 50mm gun to fire HE shells against soft targets - it is pretty much an artillery cannon. It became an anti-tank vehicle later during the WWII

Early StuG III had the short barreled 75mm, the 50mm (in the medium barreled L/42 and long L/60 versions) was installed in mid-war turreted PzKw III tanks and used as an anti tank gun (PaK 38).
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Re: Mini-StuG
« Reply #13 on: 17 February 2022, 22:08:03 »
Early StuG III had the short barreled 75mm, the 50mm (in the medium barreled L/42 and long L/60 versions) was installed in mid-war turreted PzKw III tanks and used as an anti tank gun (PaK 38).

Indeed, the 50mm short barreled can be found in the early Panzer III and the StugG III allowed for a 75mm fire support gun.

 

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