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kaliban

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Re: Smokin' tanks!
« Reply #120 on: 08 September 2020, 10:31:04 »
This rare Chevalier tank was spotted deep in the Outworlds Alliance. When the interviewer asked, they discovered that the mercenary company was using a stripped hulk straight from the days of the Amaris Civil War. With a hybrid engine to power the electrical transmission, its advanced electronics and sensors were, by all accounts, fully functional, though the tanktech we were directed towards showed us its logbook, which resembled a novel with its detailed notes of how the increasing number of glitches in the ancient tank were quashed and worked around.
The armament was long-gone, quite possibly taken when the SLDF garrisoning the planet abandoned it at Kerensky's call. The great-great-grandfather of the tech's wife had taken advantage of the polymorphic firmware used to simplify SLDF field refits, and convinced it that an Archer's FarFire 15 LRM15 launcher was connected to the same trigger and power supply as the dual Streak SRM2 launchers, but used the backup targeting optics of the ERLL to acquire the target. This did mean the launcher was initially unable to fire indirectly, but the logbook showed some fascinating workarounds. The single-ton ammo load was unable to be increased, and the bulk of the engine meant that a whole ton of armour had to be left off on top of that. Despite this, it has given sterling service in scouting and fire-support for over two hundred years. After photographs of the logbook, and a group photo of the tanktech's surviving family surrounding "Seeky", we thanked them for their time.
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Chevalier (ICE)

Mass: 35 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Motive Type: Wheeled
Rules Level: Tournament Legal
Era: Succession Wars
Tech Rating/Era Availability: D/X-C-C-A
Production Year: 2769
Cost: 470,979 C-Bills
Battle Value: 516

Power Plant: GoClean Hybrid 190 I.C.E.
Cruise Speed: 64.8 km/h
Flanking Speed: 97.2 km/h
Armor: SimplePlate Standard Armor
Armament:
    1 FarFire 15 LRM-15
Manufacturer: Millennium Industries
    Primary Factory:
Communications System: Dec-10 Whisperer
Targeting and Tracking System: Blankenburg Trooper

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
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Internal Structure: Standard                      20 points                3.50
Engine:             I.C.E. Engine                190                      15.00
    Cruise MP:  6
    Flank MP:   9
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             0                         0.00
Control Equipment:                                                         2.00
Lift Equipment:                                                            0.00
Turret:                                                                    1.00
Armor:              Standard Armor               AV -  88                  5.50

                                                      Armor     
                                                      Factor     
                                               Front     22       
                                          Left/Right   17/17       
                                              Turret     18       
                                                Rear     14       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
LRM-15                                       T         5         1         7.00
@LRM-15 (8)                                  BD        -         0         1.00

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      3    Points: 5
6w         1       1       1       0      1     0   Structure:  2
Special Abilities: EE, TUR(1/1/1), IF 1

Replace the LRM-15 for 3x LRM-5. The saves one ton for extra ammo (8 shots is too few)

truetanker

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Re: Smokin' tanks!
« Reply #121 on: 14 September 2020, 10:35:49 »
Except that is considered munchy, now a LRM10 might fit with some ML to give it strafing power, but it would make it too Harrasser -ish.

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Re: Smokin' tanks!
« Reply #122 on: 14 September 2020, 10:54:54 »
Except that is considered munchy, now a LRM10 might fit with some ML to give it strafing power, but it would make it too Harrasser -ish.

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Arguable. I consider it "just making sense".

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Re: Smokin' tanks!
« Reply #123 on: 17 September 2020, 19:37:35 »
This Davion spin on the Capellan Swift Wind scout took what made it great and reinforced it. Increasing the chassis size to a relatively bulky ten tons let it not only carry the same amount of communications equipment, it also gained a machinegun and (slightly) heavier armour.
The one real innovation was a suite of camouflaged remote sensors that could be launched out of the rear to establish a defensive net. The driver could monitor these in a limited fashion or let it act as a network hub for the whole net by linking with nearby DropShips.
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Pinemartin Scout Car

Mass: 10 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Motive Type: Wheeled
Rules Level: Tournament Legal
Era: Succession Wars
Tech Rating/Era Availability: D/X-D-D-A
Production Year: 2980
Cost: 105,000 C-Bills
Battle Value: 116

Power Plant: GM 60 I.C.E.
Cruise Speed: 86.4 km/h
Flanking Speed: 129.6 km/h
Armor: StarSlab-3 Standard Armor
Armament:
    1 Armstrong Minigun Machine Gun
    1 GM Bleeper Remote Sensor Dispenser
    1 GM Narrowband Ex Communications Equipment (1.0 tons) (2.0 tons)
Manufacturer: General Motors
    Primary Factory:
Communications System: Wunderland XXIc
Targeting and Tracking System: Dalban HiRez

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Standard                       4 points                1.00
Engine:             I.C.E. Engine                 60                       3.00
    Cruise MP:  8
    Flank MP:   12
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             0                         0.00
Control Equipment:                                                         0.50
Lift Equipment:                                                            0.00
Armor:              Standard Armor               AV -  32                  2.00

                                                      Armor     
                                                      Factor     
                                               Front     10       
                                          Left/Right    8/8         
                                                Rear     6         

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Machine Gun                                  FR        0         1         0.50
(R) Remote Sensor Dispenser                  RR        0         1         0.50
Communications Equipment (1.0 tons) (2.0 tons) BD        0         1         2.00
@MG (1/2) (100)                              BD        -         0         0.50

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      1    Points: 1
8w         1       0       0       0      1     0   Structure:  0
Special Abilities: EE
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Re: Smokin' tanks!
« Reply #124 on: 21 September 2020, 17:11:17 »
The Type 39 is an old Rim Worlds design that still shows up in the LC outback. An unusually well-designed vehicle it requires a fairly capable industry to produce but seldom causes any problems for its crews afterwards.

Slow but with a competent medium-long range armament it's often used to support infantry in fending of bandit raids. A version which replaces the LRM5 with a pair of SRM2s also exists but is not very popular with crews. Curiously it's not the reduced long-range firepower that causes the complaints, but the lack of indirect fire capability. Turns out many units use massed indirect LRM fire to support extended defense lines in broken terrain where they are often deployed.

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Type 39 Heavy tank

Mass: 60 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Motive Type: Tracked
Rules Level: Introductory
Era: Age of War/Star League
Tech Rating/Era Availability: D/C-D-D-A
Production Year: 0
Cost: 1,264,000 C-Bills
Battle Value: 762

Power Plant:  180 I.C.E.
Cruise Speed: 32.4 km/h
Flanking Speed: 54.0 km/h
Armor:  Standard Armor
Armament:
    1  Autocannon/10
    1  LRM-5
    1  Autocannon/2
    1  Machine Gun
Manufacturer:
    Primary Factory:
Communications System:
Targeting and Tracking System:

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Standard                      30 points                6.00
Engine:             I.C.E. Engine                180                      14.00
    Cruise MP:  3
    Flank MP:   5
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             0                         0.00
Control Equipment:                                                         3.00
Lift Equipment:                                                            0.00
Turret:                                                                    2.00
Armor:              Standard Armor               AV - 160                 10.00

                                                      Armor     
                                                      Factor     
                                               Front     40       
                                          Left/Right   35/35       
                                              Turret     30       
                                                Rear     20       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Machine Gun                                  FR        0         1         0.50
Autocannon/2                                 T         1         1         6.00
Autocannon/10                                T         3         1        12.00
LRM-5                                        T         2         1         2.00
@AC/2 (45)                                   BD        -         0         1.00
@AC/10 (20)                                  BD        -         0         2.00
@MG (1/2) (100)                              BD        -         0         0.50
@LRM-5 (24)                                  BD        -         0         1.00

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      5    Points: 8
3t         2       2       1       0      3     0   Structure:  3
Special Abilities: EE, TUR(2/2/1, AC 1/1/0), AC 1/1/0

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Re: Smokin' tanks!
« Reply #125 on: 22 September 2020, 16:12:56 »
Drillson hover tanks occasionally had to sacrifice their fusion engines in favor of a damaged mech, especially units captured by the CC. On those units sacrificing half the bow armament saved enough weight to install a gas turbine engine as well as a power amplifier and heart sinks for the laser. Unfortunately the top speed dropped to just 120kph, but it still left them as viable combat units.

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Drillson ICE

Mass: 50 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Motive Type: Hovercraft
Rules Level: Introductory
Era: Age of War/Star League
Tech Rating/Era Availability: D/C-D-C-A
Production Year: 2750
Cost: 1,033,667 C-Bills
Battle Value: 711

Power Plant:  115 I.C.E.
Cruise Speed: 75.6 km/h
Flanking Speed: 118.8 km/h
Armor:  Standard Armor
Armament:
    1  Large Laser
    1  LRM-5
    2  SRM-2s
    1  Machine Gun
Manufacturer:
    Primary Factory:
Communications System:
Targeting and Tracking System:

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
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Internal Structure: Standard                      25 points                5.00
Engine:             I.C.E. Engine                115                       8.00
    Cruise MP:  7
    Flank MP:   11
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             8                         8.00
Control Equipment:                                                         2.50
Lift Equipment:                                                            5.00
Power Amplifiers:                                                          0.50
Turret:                                                                    1.00
Armor:              Standard Armor               AV -  96                  6.00

                                                      Armor     
                                                      Factor     
                                               Front     24       
                                          Left/Right   20/20       
                                              Turret     16       
                                                Rear     16       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
LRM-5                                        FR        2         1         2.00
Machine Gun                                  FR        0         1         0.50
Large Laser                                  T         8         1         5.00
2 SRM-2s                                     T         4         2         2.00
@LRM-5 (24)                                  BD        -         0         1.00
@SRM-2 (50)                                  BD        -         0         1.00
@MG (1/2) (100)                              BD        -         0         0.50

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      3    Points: 7
7h         2       2       1       0      2     0   Structure:  3
Special Abilities: EE, TUR(2/2/0)

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Re: Smokin' tanks!
« Reply #126 on: 25 September 2020, 15:30:03 »
Slipping off that LRM and ammo for a three ton infantry cargo deck, still makes this viable in certain circles.

I like.

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Re: Smokin' tanks!
« Reply #127 on: 25 September 2020, 15:56:03 »
Hmm... basically a hover Goblin? Not a bad idea. Thought I'd drop the SRMs instead, but it's the same weight. Probably a more significant rebuild than the above, thought.

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Re: Smokin' tanks!
« Reply #128 on: 19 October 2020, 11:42:53 »
With thanks to Cipher's Disassembler for the inspiration.

This variant of the Zhukov was an oddity, but it made a modicum of sense when considered against the original and the Demolisher; the use of interchangeable parts meant that somebody, somewhere, would inevitably try to remake the smaller, cheaper tank to fulfil the role of its bigger brother.

By the limited accounts available, they succeeded, packing in the much larger Chemjet into the SarLon MaxiCannon mount without too much trouble, though only somewhat rebalancing it with a hand-fabbed carbuncle missile pod on the opposite side, mounting the Zhukov's Harvester 20K and a spare, alongside a generic pair of Holly LRM5s that were usually used for laying down smoke. Finishing it off were a trio of Armstrong Miniguns on the front and sides, to send a strongly-worded message to any infantry that might approach. The armour was slightly lighter, but still tough enough to stand and fight.

The dual SRM6s were reasonably successful in exploiting armour breaches opened by the AC/20, though the autocannon's mount needed regular maintenance and adjustment lest it drift off-target.
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Zhukov (Urban Assault)

Mass: 75 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Motive Type: Tracked
Rules Level: Tournament Legal
Era: Succession Wars
Tech Rating/Era Availability: D/X-E-D-A
Production Year: 3025
Dry Cost: 1,817,813 C-Bills
Total Cost: 1,922,813 C-Bills
Battle Value: 979

Power Plant:  225 I.C.E.
Cruise Speed: 32.4 km/h
Flanking Speed: 54.0 km/h
Armor: ArcShield Max I Standard Armor
Armament:
    1 ChemJet Gun 185mm Autocannon/20
    2 Harvester 20K SRM-6s
    2 Holly LRM-5s
    3 Armstrong Machine Guns
Manufacturer: Aldis Industries
    Primary Factory:
Communications System: Olmstead 30
Targeting and Tracking System: Cirxese BallistaCheck w/ Cirxese RockeCheck

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
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Internal Structure: Standard                      40 points                7.50
Engine:             I.C.E. Engine                225                      20.00
    Cruise MP:  3
    Flank MP:   5
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             0                         0.00
Control Equipment:                                                         4.00
Lift Equipment:                                                            0.00
Turret:                                                                    2.50
Armor:              Standard Armor               AV - 152                  9.50

                                                      Armor     
                                                      Factor     
                                               Front     40       
                                          Left/Right   30/30       
                                              Turret     32       
                                                Rear     20       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Machine Gun                                  FR        0         1         0.50
Machine Gun                                  LS        0         1         0.50
Machine Gun                                  RS        0         1         0.50
Autocannon/20                                T         7         1        14.00
2 SRM-6s                                     T         8         2         6.00
2 LRM-5s                                     T         4         2         4.00
@AC/20 (10)                                  BD        -         0         2.00
@SRM-6 (30)                                  BD        -         0         2.00
@LRM-5 (24)                                  BD        -         0         1.00
@MG (200)                                    BD        -         0         1.00

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      5    Points: 10
3t         5       5       1       0      3     0   Structure:  4
Special Abilities: EE, TUR(4/5/1, AC 2/2/0, SRM 2/2/0), AC 2/2/0, SRM 2/2/0, IF 1
(Yes, I know I've basically made a Von Luckner. Fluff counts, OK?)
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Re: Smokin' tanks!
« Reply #129 on: 02 November 2020, 00:45:22 »
Extensive modification of this second-line Axel tank has increased the range of the main armament at the cost of everything else, including armour and anti-infantry weaponry. In place of the AC/20 are dual Martell Mk.III Large Lasers with attendant power-packs, and the LRM pack has been deleted and replaced with a frontal Shannon SRM6. Armour was sharply reduced to seven tons. The intent may be to create a longer-ranged "gambler's tank", using energy guns to repeatedly take instantaneous, long-odds shots when supported by its normal lance-mates.
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Axel "Rodzyanko"

Mass: 65 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Motive Type: Tracked
Rules Level: Tournament Legal
Era: Succession Wars
Tech Rating/Era Availability: D/X-D-C-A
Production Year: 3025
Dry Cost: 1,185,113 C-Bills
Total Cost: 1,212,113 C-Bills
Battle Value: 704

Power Plant:  195 I.C.E.
Cruise Speed: 32.4 km/h
Flanking Speed: 54.0 km/h
Armor:  Standard Armor
Armament:
    2  Large Lasers
    1  SRM-6
Manufacturer:
    Primary Factory:
Communications System:
Targeting and Tracking System:
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Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
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Internal Structure: Standard                      35 points                6.50
Engine:             I.C.E. Engine                195                      16.00
    Cruise MP:  3
    Flank MP:   5
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             16                       16.00
Control Equipment:                                                         3.50
Lift Equipment:                                                            0.00
Power Amplifiers:                                                          1.00
Turret:                                                                    1.00
Armor:              Standard Armor               AV - 112                  7.00

                                                      Armor     
                                                      Factor     
                                               Front     28       
                                          Left/Right   21/21       
                                              Turret     26       
                                                Rear     16       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
SRM-6                                        FR        4         1         3.00
2 Large Lasers                               T         16        2        10.00
@SRM-6 (15)                                  BD        -         0         1.00

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      4    Points: 7
3t         3       3       0       0      3     0   Structure:  4
Special Abilities: EE, TUR(2/2/0)
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Re: Smokin' tanks!
« Reply #130 on: 15 November 2020, 15:31:24 »
The Mobile combat platform was the product of one of the less stable times in the CC. With the military not having a lot of success against the FWL and FS the Chancellor demanded a combat vehicle to give his battered forces "The firepower to stand off any enemy!".

Thought the military actually just wanted more traditional military units plus a bit less "political oversight", no one was going to say "no" to the Chancellor, and thus the MWC-A100 was born. Starting out as the -A60 built on a modified missile carrier hull it quickly grew into a monstrous four-tracked square... thing... with a massive cylindrical turret on top.

But while hard to maintain and a nightmare to maneuver on anything but a flat plain the MWC did manage to mostly fullfill the Chancellor's demand for firepower. In no small part due to the use of a new very accurate BlazeFire T&T system that would later be the basis for the Cataphract's system.

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Mobile combat platform MWC-A100

Mass: 100 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Motive Type: Tracked
Rules Level: Introductory
Era: Age of War/Star League
Tech Rating/Era Availability: D/C-D-D-A
Production Year: 0
Cost: 2,946,667 C-Bills
Battle Value: 1,156

Power Plant:  200 I.C.E.
Cruise Speed: 21.6 km/h
Flanking Speed: 32.4 km/h
Armor:  Standard Armor
Armament:
    1  PPC
    1  Autocannon/10
    1  SRM-6
    1  LRM-5
    1  Autocannon/2
    4  Machine Guns
Manufacturer:
    Primary Factory:
Communications System:
Targeting and Tracking System:

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
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Internal Structure: Standard                      50 points               10.00
Engine:             I.C.E. Engine                200                      17.00
    Cruise MP:  2
    Flank MP:   3
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             10                       10.00
Control Equipment:                                                         5.00
Lift Equipment:                                                            0.00
Power Amplifiers:                                                          1.00
Turret:                                                                    3.00
Armor:              Standard Armor               AV - 264                 16.50

                                                      Armor     
                                                      Factor     
                                               Front     64       
                                          Left/Right   56/56       
                                              Turret     48       
                                                Rear     40       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Machine Gun                                  FR        0         1         0.50
Machine Gun                                  LS        0         1         0.50
(R) Machine Gun                              RR        0         1         0.50
Machine Gun                                  RS        0         1         0.50
PPC                                          T         10        1         7.00
Autocannon/10                                T         3         1        12.00
Autocannon/2                                 T         1         1         6.00
LRM-5                                        T         2         1         2.00
SRM-6                                        T         4         1         3.00
@AC/2 (45)                                   BD        -         0         1.00
@AC/10 (20)                                  BD        -         0         2.00
@MG (1/2) (100)                              BD        -         0         0.50
@LRM-5 (24)                                  BD        -         0         1.00
@SRM-6 (15)                                  BD        -         0         1.00

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      9    Points: 12
2t         4       4       2       0      4     0   Structure:  5
Special Abilities: EE, TUR(3/4/2, AC 1/1/0), AC 1/1/0

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Re: Smokin' tanks!
« Reply #131 on: 17 November 2020, 22:16:09 »
Magna's Photon-Kit 'crate turret' was made into a battle platform more for its utility than any decisive advantage. The combination of compact all-energy armament of Magna Light, Medium and Heavy Lasers, integrated with targeting, cooling & multivariant power transformer meant it could be packaged up as a turret and shipped, sphere-wide, to any world that had a modicum of heavy industry. Even the armour was integrated, carrying a respectable 3 tons 1.5 tons (Don't forget to fact-check your copy! - Ed.) of modern Magna TitanPlate all on its own.

Existing tanks could be modified to fit the Photon-Kit by tanktechs with nothing more than arc welders, thanks to the integrated turret traversal mechanism. They could only mount it if it already had provision for electricity generation, but when it came out, over 30% of internal-combustion tanks were diesel-electric or some other hybrid. If a planet even lacked that, instructions were included for installation into static defences and connection to the electrical grid.

Massing as much as a light tank itself, but at the cost of a third of a medium tank, this was reasonably popular until fusion tanks became more reliable. Eventually, Magna went on to focus solely on energy weapons, and the Photon-Kit faded from history. Until now.

This Tiger has had the Photon-Kit treatment, and it is unusually well-preserved, indicative perhaps of its lack of popularity, having lost all anti-infantry weapons to carry the turret's weight. The combined armour protection is unchanged at six tons.
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Tiger Medium Tank (Photon-Kit)

Mass: 55 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Motive Type: Tracked
Rules Level: Tournament Legal
Era: Age of War/Star League
Tech Rating/Era Availability: D/C-D-C-A
Production Year: 2590
Dry Cost: 847,721 C-Bills
Total Cost: 847,721 C-Bills
Battle Value: 538

Power Plant: Veridian 220 I.C.E.
Cruise Speed: 43.2 km/h
Flanking Speed: 64.8 km/h
Armor: Quantum Heavy Plate/Magna TitanPlate Standard Armor
Armament:
    1 Magna Large Laser
    1 Magna Medium Laser
    1 Magna Small Laser
Manufacturer: Magna Metals
    Primary Factory: Lopez
Communications System: Tordar Communications Model C
Targeting and Tracking System: Magna Optical

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
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Internal Structure: Standard                      30 points                5.50
Engine:             I.C.E. Engine                220                      20.00
    Cruise MP:  4
    Flank MP:   6
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             12                       12.00
Control Equipment:                                                         3.00
Lift Equipment:                                                            0.00
Power Amplifiers:                                                          1.00
Turret:                                                                    1.00
Armor:              Standard Armor               AV -  96                  6.00

                                                      Armor     
                                                      Factor     
                                               Front     21       
                                          Left/Right   20/20       
                                              Turret     21       
                                                Rear     14       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Large Laser                                  T         8         1         5.00
Medium Laser                                 T         3         1         1.00
Small Laser                                  T         1         1         0.50

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      3    Points: 5
4t         2       2       0       0      2     0   Structure:  3
Special Abilities: ENE, EE, TUR(2/2/0)

So yeah, I've been watching Roguetech LPs and wondering, "Who makes the turrets?"
« Last Edit: 18 November 2020, 08:41:02 by acksed »
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Re: Smokin' tanks!
« Reply #132 on: 18 November 2020, 07:38:42 »
20,5 tons + armor, not too terrible. :)

Thought it seems strange to state 3 tons of armor when the example has less than 1.5?

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Re: Smokin' tanks!
« Reply #133 on: 18 November 2020, 08:41:39 »
Doi. Me number good. Fixed.
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Re: Smokin' tanks!
« Reply #134 on: 18 November 2020, 09:59:35 »
Not stricktly a military vehicle the M13A (the name "Ratbox" is never used in official dokuments) is designed to allow riot police a secure base of operations while putting down civil unrest. Thus the flamers are usually loaded with riot suppression foam or just plain water.

But the secondary purpose of providing police the ability to move quickly through broken terrain and obstructions means it's fast and tough enough to be used as a miltary APC.

Produced by several local manufacturers as well as powerhouses like Quickcell the M13A can be found in cities all over the inner sphere.

M13As in military service are usually modified with a diffierent armament, either tripple MGs (M13B) or a single SRM2 (M13C).

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Ratbox M13A riot suppression vehicle

Mass: 10 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Motive Type: Tracked
Rules Level: Introductory
Era: Age of War/Star League
Tech Rating/Era Availability: D/C-C-B-A
Production Year: 0
Cost: 90,750 C-Bills
Battle Value: 126

Power Plant:  60 I.C.E.
Cruise Speed: 64.8 km/h
Flanking Speed: 97.2 km/h
Armor:  Standard Armor
Armament:
    2  Vehicle Flamers
    1  Infantry Compartment (1.0 tons)
Manufacturer:
    Primary Factory:
Communications System:
Targeting and Tracking System:

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
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Internal Structure: Standard                       5 points                1.00
Engine:             I.C.E. Engine                 60                       3.00
    Cruise MP:  6
    Flank MP:   9
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             0                         0.00
Control Equipment:                                                         0.50
Lift Equipment:                                                            0.00
Turret:                                                                    0.50
Armor:              Standard Armor               AV -  32                  2.00

                                                      Armor     
                                                      Factor     
                                               Front     10       
                                          Left/Right    6/6         
                                              Turret     5         
                                                Rear     5         

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass 
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2 Vehicle Flamers                            T         6         2         1.00
Infantry Compartment (1.0 tons)              BD        0         1         1.00
@Vehicle Flamer (20)                         BD        -         0         1.00

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      1    Points: 1
6t         1       0       0       0      1     0   Structure:  1
Special Abilities: ENE, EE, TUR(1/0/0)

And just because it seems like a reasonable experiment; putting the Photon-kit turret on a Moerser medium assault vehicle. Some leftover space in the former ammo storage was turned into a small infantry compartment.

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Moerser Photon-kit refit

Mass: 50 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Motive Type: Tracked
Rules Level: Introductory
Era: Age of War/Star League
Tech Rating/Era Availability: D/C-D-C-A
Production Year: 0
Cost: 922,875 C-Bills
Battle Value: 676

Power Plant:  150 I.C.E.
Cruise Speed: 32.4 km/h
Flanking Speed: 54.0 km/h
Armor:  Standard Armor
Armament:
    1  Large Laser
    1  Medium Laser
    1  Small Laser
    1  Infantry Bay (1.0 tons)
Manufacturer:
    Primary Factory:
Communications System:
Targeting and Tracking System:

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Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
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Internal Structure: Standard                      25 points                5.00
Engine:             I.C.E. Engine                150                      11.00
    Cruise MP:  3
    Flank MP:   5
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             12                       12.00
Control Equipment:                                                         2.50
Lift Equipment:                                                            0.00
Power Amplifiers:                                                          1.00
Turret:                                                                    1.00
Armor:              Standard Armor               AV - 160                 10.00

                                                      Armor     
                                                      Factor     
                                               Front     43       
                                          Left/Right   31/31       
                                              Turret     30       
                                                Rear     25       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Large Laser                                  T         8         1         5.00
Medium Laser                                 T         3         1         1.00
Small Laser                                  T         1         1         0.50
Infantry Bay (1.0 tons)                      BD        0         1         1.00

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      5    Points: 7
3t         2       2       0       0      2     0   Structure:  3
Special Abilities: ENE, EE, TUR(2/2/0)


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Re: Smokin' tanks!
« Reply #135 on: 19 November 2020, 06:09:10 »
Good 'n cheap APC. And I am sure the ones who ride in the new Moerser are happy it won't explode so much. ;)
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Re: Smokin' tanks!
« Reply #136 on: 25 February 2021, 17:14:42 »
Originally a sensible attempt to make a cheap wheeled AC carrier for FWL militias the Impetus soon bloated out of control due to conflicting design directives.

Instead of a speedy light assault gun the end result carried twice the original armor protection, a large missile battery, and was no faster than common medium tanks. The suspension had been increased from four to six wheels but was still too weak for serious rough terrain, the added crew to manage the missile turret had been added as an afterthought and lacked both adequate space and good communication with the driver/gunner and commander. In short, crews hated it.

But it was cheap, available, and fairly powerful when handled well so full production was started in 2935. It has since showed up all over the FWL and in surrounding nations, espectially in the more well-developed perphery worlds.

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Impetus light tank

Mass: 35 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Motive Type: Wheeled
Rules Level: Introductory
Era: Age of War/Star League
Tech Rating/Era Availability: D/C-C-D-A
Production Year: 0
Cost: 496,438 C-Bills
Battle Value: 488

Power Plant:  120 I.C.E.
Cruise Speed: 43.2 km/h
Flanking Speed: 64.8 km/h
Armor:  Standard Armor
Armament:
    1  Autocannon/5
    5  SRM-2s
Manufacturer:
    Primary Factory:
Communications System:
Targeting and Tracking System:

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Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
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Internal Structure: Standard                      20 points                3.50
Engine:             I.C.E. Engine                120                       8.00
    Cruise MP:  4
    Flank MP:   6
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             0                         0.00
Control Equipment:                                                         2.00
Lift Equipment:                                                            0.00
Turret:                                                                    0.50
Armor:              Standard Armor               AV -  96                  6.00

                                                      Armor     
                                                      Factor     
                                               Front     24       
                                          Left/Right   20/20       
                                              Turret     17       
                                                Rear     15       

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Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass 
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Autocannon/5                                 FR        1         1         8.00
5 SRM-2s                                     T         10        5         5.00
@AC/5 (20)                                   BD        -         0         1.00
@SRM-2 (50)                                  BD        -         0         1.00

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      3    Points: 5
4w         2       2       1       0      1     0   Structure:  2
Special Abilities: EE, TUR(1/1/0, SRM 1/1/0), SRM 1/1/0

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Re: Smokin' tanks!
« Reply #137 on: 25 February 2021, 19:59:16 »
A FWL tank with an AC instead of an LRM-15?   ???

Did some Davion defector design it?  :D

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Re: Smokin' tanks!
« Reply #138 on: 25 February 2021, 21:00:49 »
yep but you could swap out the 5 SRMs and ammo for an LRM 15 and ammo
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Re: Smokin' tanks!
« Reply #139 on: 25 February 2021, 21:21:24 »
Hmmm... I could totally see a FWL tank with TWO LRM-15s...  ^-^

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Re: Smokin' tanks!
« Reply #140 on: 25 February 2021, 21:31:17 »
Looks like a Raketenjagdpanzer with Kanonen!

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Re: Smokin' tanks!
« Reply #141 on: 25 February 2021, 21:34:53 »
Granted I don't actually speak German, but that would seem to imply Artillery Cannons rather than LRMs...  ^-^

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Re: Smokin' tanks!
« Reply #142 on: 26 February 2021, 07:45:35 »
A FWL tank with an AC instead of an LRM-15?   ???

Did some Davion defector design it?  :D
Gets a bit similar to the Striker... And in the 2900s the FS was more into energy guns. But a LRM variant is certainly reasonable. Arguably a better use of the chassis in general. :)

Looks like a Raketenjagdpanzer with Kanonen!

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The idea was the other way around, it's a kanonenjagdpanzer mit raketen. ;) The SRMs were added later in the design process.

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Re: Smokin' tanks!
« Reply #143 on: 26 February 2021, 18:08:29 »
The idea was the other way around, it's a kanonenjagdpanzer mit raketen. ;) The SRMs were added later in the design process.

So, this?


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That is, if true tanker doesn't beat me to it. He makes truly evil units.Col.Hengist on 31 May 2013
TT, we know you are the master of nasty  O0 ~ Fletch on 22 June 2013
If I'm attacking you, conventional wisom says to bring 3x your force.  I want extra insurance, so I'll bring 4 for every 1 of what you have :D ~ Tai Dai Cultist on 21 April 2016
Me: Would you rather fight my Epithymía Thanátou from the Whispers of Blake?
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Re: Smokin' tanks!
« Reply #144 on: 26 February 2021, 19:05:20 »
Well... That's a fake gun, so not really. A Sherman Caiiope(sp?) Maybe?

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Re: Smokin' tanks!
« Reply #145 on: 26 February 2021, 21:00:18 »
If it was real...

What I was going for...

SRM Carrier with a pop-gun....

Drop 2 Launchers and an ammo for a Medium Rifle ( F ) and 18 rounds...

Would that be close enough?

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That is, if true tanker doesn't beat me to it. He makes truly evil units.Col.Hengist on 31 May 2013
TT, we know you are the master of nasty  O0 ~ Fletch on 22 June 2013
If I'm attacking you, conventional wisom says to bring 3x your force.  I want extra insurance, so I'll bring 4 for every 1 of what you have :D ~ Tai Dai Cultist on 21 April 2016
Me: Would you rather fight my Epithymía Thanátou from the Whispers of Blake?
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Re: Smokin' tanks!
« Reply #146 on: 27 February 2021, 04:57:03 »
If it was real...

What I was going for...

SRM Carrier with a pop-gun....

Drop 2 Launchers and an ammo for a Medium Rifle ( F ) and 18 rounds...

Would that be close enough?

TT
Isn't that pretty much the same as the one I posted?

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Re: Smokin' tanks!
« Reply #147 on: 28 February 2021, 01:45:39 »
Yep.

Just clarifying.

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That is, if true tanker doesn't beat me to it. He makes truly evil units.Col.Hengist on 31 May 2013
TT, we know you are the master of nasty  O0 ~ Fletch on 22 June 2013
If I'm attacking you, conventional wisom says to bring 3x your force.  I want extra insurance, so I'll bring 4 for every 1 of what you have :D ~ Tai Dai Cultist on 21 April 2016
Me: Would you rather fight my Epithymía Thanátou from the Whispers of Blake?
Nav_Alpha: That THING... that is horrid
~ Nav_Alpha on 10 October 2016