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Re: Surprisingly Inexpensive … [Light Armor]
« Reply #30 on: 22 June 2020, 04:29:24 »
Vehicles in that speed/tonnage range can be had for less than 1M...

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Re: Surprisingly Inexpensive … [Light Armor]
« Reply #31 on: 23 June 2020, 21:55:53 »
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          BattleTech Vehicle Technical Readout
                   * CUSTOM WEAPON

Type/Model:    Ivroy Handle sieben
Tech:          Inner Sphere / 3062
Config:        Hovercraft
Rules:         Level 3, Standard design

Mass:          20 tons
Power Plant:   155 Nissan XL Fusion
Cruise Speed:  129.6 km/h
Maximum Speed: 194.4 km/h
Armor Type:    Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:     
  2 Light PPCs*
  1 Anti-Missile System
Manufacturer:  (Unknown)
  Location:    (Unknown)
Communications System:  (Unknown)
Targeting & Tracking System:  (Unknown)

--------------------------------------------------------
Type/Model:    Ivroy Handle sieben
Mass:          20 tons
Construction Options:  Fractional Accounting

Equipment:                                 Items    Mass
Int. Struct.:  10 pts Standard               0      2.00
Engine:        155 XL Fusion                 2      2.75
Shielding & Transmission Equipment:          0      1.38
    Cruise MP:  12
     Flank MP:  18
Heat Sinks:     10 Single                    0       .00
Cockpit & Controls:                          0      1.00
Crew: 2 Members                              0       .00
Lift Equipment:                              0      2.00
Turret Equipment:                            0       .65
Armor Factor:   48 pts Ferro-Fibrous         2      2.68

                          Internal    Armor
                          Structure   Value
   Front:                     2         10
   Left / Right Sides:        2      10/10
   Rear:                      2         10
   Turret:                    2          8

Weapons and Equipment    Loc  Heat  Ammo   Items    Mass
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2 Light PPCs*            Turret  10          2      6.00
1 Anti-Missile System    Turret   0    6     2      1.00
1 C.A.S.E. Equipment     Body                1       .50
--------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                          10          9     19.96
Items & Tons Left:                           0       .04

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:        1,966,323 C-Bills
Battle Value 2:    687 (old BV = 555)
Cost per BV:       2,862.19
Weapon Value:      140 / 140 (Ratio = .20 / .20)
Damage Factors:    SRDmg = 8;  MRDmg = 6;  LRDmg = 2
BattleForce2:      MP: 12H,  Armor/Structure: 0 / 2
                   Damage PB/M/L: 1/1/1,  Overheat: 0
                   Class: GL;  Point Value: 7
I'm telling myself "I've shoehorned a AAA platform into a light hover," but it will always suffer badly, compared to a Large X-Pulse build …
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Re: Surprisingly Inexpensive … [Light Armor]
« Reply #32 on: 15 July 2020, 17:20:48 »
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          BattleTech Vehicle Technical Readout
                   * CUSTOM WEAPON

Type/Model:    Ivroy Handle Glorified BB Gun
Tech:          Inner Sphere / 3062
Config:        Hovercraft
Rules:         Level 3, Standard design

Mass:          20 tons
Power Plant:   155 Nissan XL Fusion
Cruise Speed:  129.6 km/h
Maximum Speed: 194.4 km/h
Armor Type:    Standard
Armament:     
  1 Autocannon/2
  1 Light Machine Gun*
  1 Anti-Missile System
Manufacturer:  (Unknown)
  Location:    (Unknown)
Communications System:  (Unknown)
Targeting & Tracking System:  (Unknown)

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Type/Model:    Ivroy Handle Glorified BB Gun
Mass:          20 tons
Construction Options:  Fractional Accounting

Equipment:                                 Items    Mass
Int. Struct.:  8 pts Standard                0      2.00
Engine:        155 XL Fusion                 2      2.75
Shielding & Transmission Equipment:          0      1.38
    Cruise MP:  12
     Flank MP:  18
Heat Sinks:     10 Single                    0       .00
Cockpit & Controls:                          0      1.00
Crew: 2 Members                              0       .00
Lift Equipment:                              0      2.00
Armor Factor:   25 pts Standard              0      1.56

                          Internal    Armor
                          Structure   Value
   Front:                     2          9
   Left / Right Sides:        2        6/6
   Rear:                      2          4

Weapons and Equipment    Loc  Heat  Ammo   Items    Mass
--------------------------------------------------------
1 Autocannon/2           Front    0   45     2      7.00
1 Light Machine Gun*     Front    0   50     2       .75
1 Anti-Missile System    Front    0    6     2      1.00
1 C.A.S.E. Equipment     Body                1       .50
--------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                           0          9     19.94
Items & Tons Left:                           0       .06

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:        1,602,148 C-Bills
Battle Value 2:    273 (old BV = 184)
Cost per BV:       5,868.68
Weapon Value:      13 / 13 (Ratio = .05 / .05)
Damage Factors:    SRDmg = 2;  MRDmg = 2;  LRDmg = 1
BattleForce2:      MP: 12H,  Armor/Structure: 0 / 1
                   Damage PB/M/L: -/-/-,  Overheat: 0
                   Class: GL;  Point Value: 3
:( Doctrine? "XL-Powered Field Guns"? Weren't those supposed to be dirt cheap?

But if you want your battlegroup to be as fast as you troop transports, and any fire will get troops to go prone, then maybe you can pin down the enemy without tiring up your fighter screen.
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Re: Surprisingly Inexpensive … [Light Armor]
« Reply #33 on: 15 July 2020, 17:45:09 »
It costs the same as a Locust, but could take one in open terrain.

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Re: Surprisingly Inexpensive … [Light Armor]
« Reply #34 on: 15 July 2020, 20:57:38 »
It actually wouldn't be a bad idea on a cheaper (non-XLE) chassis...

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Re: Surprisingly Inexpensive … [Light Armor]
« Reply #35 on: 15 July 2020, 21:09:52 »
It's around the cost of a Locust, and would most likely be able to take one...
It costs the same as a Locust, but could take one in open terrain.
:-X
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Re: Surprisingly Inexpensive … [Light Armor]
« Reply #36 on: 06 October 2020, 23:23:02 »
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          BattleTech Vehicle Technical Readout
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Type/Model:    Ivroy Handle OmmPaPa
Tech:          Inner Sphere / 3060
Config:        Hovercraft
Rules:         Level 3, Standard design

Mass:          20 tons
Power Plant:   155 Nissan XL Fusion
Cruise Speed:  129.6 km/h
Maximum Speed: 194.4 km/h
Armor Type:    Standard
Armament:     
  6 SRM 4 (I-OS)s
Manufacturer:  (Unknown)
  Location:    (Unknown)
Communications System:  (Unknown)
Targeting & Tracking System:  (Unknown)

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Type/Model:    Ivroy Handle OmmPaPa
Mass:          20 tons
Construction Options:  Fractional Accounting

Equipment:                                 Items    Mass
Int. Struct.:  8 pts Standard                0      2.00
Engine:        155 XL Fusion                 2      2.75
Shielding & Transmission Equipment:          0      1.38
    Cruise MP:  12
     Flank MP:  18
Heat Sinks:     10 Single                    0       .00
Cockpit & Controls:                          0      1.00
Crew: 2 Members                              0       .00
Lift Equipment:                              0      2.00
Armor Factor:   29 pts Standard              0      1.81

                          Internal    Armor
                          Structure   Value
   Front:                     2         10
   Left / Right Sides:        2        7/7
   Rear:                      2          5

Weapons and Equipment    Loc  Heat  Ammo   Items    Mass
--------------------------------------------------------
6 SRM 4 (I-OS)s          Front    0          6      9.00
--------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                           0          8     19.94
Items & Tons Left:                           1       .06

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:        1,683,873 C-Bills
Battle Value 2:    246 (old BV = 158)
Cost per BV:       6,845.01
Weapon Value:      45 / 45 (Ratio = .18 / .18)
Damage Factors:    SRDmg = 37;  MRDmg = 6;  LRDmg = 0
BattleForce2:      MP: 12H,  Armor/Structure: 0 / 1
                   Damage PB/M/L: -/-/-,  Overheat: 0
                   Class: GL;  Point Value: 2
So: Will it live long enough to go home and rearm?

Or do you need a turret to do drive-byes with?
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Re: Surprisingly Inexpensive … [Light Armor]
« Reply #37 on: 10 October 2020, 03:50:09 »
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           BattleTech Vehicle Technical Readout
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Type/Model:    Hilton Head Internment Resorts Courtesy Shuttle
Tech:          Inner Sphere / 3058
Config:        Tracked Vehicle
Rules:         Level 3, Standard design

Mass:          17 tons
Power Plant:   155 Nissan XL Fusion
Cruise Speed:  97.2 km/h
Maximum Speed: 151.2 km/h
Armor Type:    Standard
Armament:      None
Manufacturer:  (Unknown)
  Location:    (Unknown)
Communications System:  (Unknown)
Targeting & Tracking System:  (Unknown)

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Type/Model:    Hilton Head Internment Resorts Courtesy Shuttle
Mass:          17 tons
Construction Options:  Fractional Accounting

Equipment:                                 Items    Mass
Int. Struct.:  8 pts Standard                0      1.70
Engine:        155 XL Fusion                 2      2.75
Shielding & Transmission Equipment:          0      1.38
    Cruise MP:   9
     Flank MP:  14
Heat Sinks:     10 Single                    0       .00
Cockpit & Controls:                          0       .85
Crew: 2 Members                              0       .00
Armor Factor:   21 pts Standard              0      1.31

                          Internal    Armor
                          Structure   Value
   Front:                     2          8
   Left / Right Sides:        2        5/5
   Rear:                      2          3

Weapons and Equipment    Loc  Heat  Ammo   Items    Mass
--------------------------------------------------------
Heavy Battlesuit Couch   Body                1      1.50
Heavy Battlesuit Couch   Body                1      1.50
Heavy Battlesuit Couch   Body                1      1.50
Heavy Battlesuit Couch   Body                1      1.50
Heavy Battlesuit Couch   Body                1      1.50
Heavy Battlesuit Couch   Body                1      1.50
--------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                           0          8     16.99
Items & Tons Left:                           0       .01

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:        867,282 C-Bills
Battle Value 2:    100 (old BV = 28)
Cost per BV:       8,672.82
Weapon Value:      0 / 0 (Ratio = .00 / .00)
Damage Factors:    SRDmg = 0;  MRDmg = 0;  LRDmg = 0
BattleForce2:      MP: 9T,  Armor/Structure: 0 / 1
                   Damage PB/M/L: -/-/-,  Overheat: 0
                   Class: GL;  Point Value: 1
« Last Edit: 10 October 2020, 03:54:47 by Goose »
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Re: Surprisingly Inexpensive … [Light Armor]
« Reply #38 on: 18 October 2020, 18:22:30 »
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          BattleTech Vehicle Technical Readout
                   * CUSTOM WEAPON

Type/Model:    Ivroy Handle One-Punch Bowl
Tech:          Inner Sphere / 3062
Config:        Hovercraft
Rules:         Level 3, Standard design

Mass:          20 tons
Power Plant:   155 Nissan XL Fusion
Cruise Speed:  129.6 km/h
Maximum Speed: 194.4 km/h
Armor Type:    Standard
Armament:     
  4 Rocket Launcher 20 (OS)s
  1 Light Machine Gun*
Manufacturer:  (Unknown)
  Location:    (Unknown)
Communications System:  (Unknown)
Targeting & Tracking System:  (Unknown)

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Type/Model:    Ivroy Handle One-Punch Bowl
Mass:          20 tons
Construction Options:  Fractional Accounting

Equipment:                                 Items    Mass
Int. Struct.:  10 pts Standard               0      2.00
Engine:        155 XL Fusion                 2      2.75
Shielding & Transmission Equipment:          0      1.38
    Cruise MP:  12
     Flank MP:  18
Heat Sinks:     10 Single                    0       .00
Cockpit & Controls:                          0      1.00
Crew: 2 Members                              0       .00
Lift Equipment:                              0      2.00
Turret Equipment:                            0       .60
Armor Factor:   44 pts Standard              0      2.75

                          Internal    Armor
                          Structure   Value
   Front:                     2         13
   Left / Right Sides:        2        9/9
   Rear:                      2          6
   Turret:                    2          7

Weapons and Equipment    Loc  Heat  Ammo   Items    Mass
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4 Rocket Launcher 20 (OS)Turret   0          4      6.00
1 Light Machine Gun*     Front    0  100     2      1.00
1 C.A.S.E. Equipment     Body                1       .50
--------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                           0          9     19.98
Items & Tons Left:                           0       .02

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:        1,627,383 C-Bills
Battle Value 2:    435 (old BV = 317)
Cost per BV:       3,741.11
Weapon Value:      101 / 101 (Ratio = .23 / .23)
Damage Factors:    SRDmg = 56;  MRDmg = 16;  LRDmg = 0
BattleForce2:      MP: 12H,  Armor/Structure: 0 / 2
                   Damage PB/M/L: -/-/-,  Overheat: 0
                   Class: GL;  Point Value: 4

I do wish I'd thought of the name, sooner …  ::)
« Last Edit: 18 October 2020, 18:25:06 by Goose »
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Re: Surprisingly Inexpensive … [Light Armor]
« Reply #39 on: 30 November 2020, 18:13:57 »
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          BattleTech Vehicle Technical Readout
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Type/Model:    Moblel Cover Alpha
Tech:          Inner Sphere / 3060
Config:        Hovercraft
Rules:         Level 3, Standard design

Mass:          23 tons
Power Plant:   150 Omni XL Fusion
Cruise Speed:  129.6 km/h
Maximum Speed: 194.4 km/h
Armor Type:    Standard
Armament:     
  1 Small X-Pulse Laser
Manufacturer:  (Unknown)
  Location:    (Unknown)
Communications System:  (Unknown)
Targeting & Tracking System:  (Unknown)

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
==Capabilities:==
Narrow Profile 3
Compact 1

Difficult to Maintain -1
Poor Sealing -2

Add 33,333~c-bills to account for the oversized Nissan 155xl


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Type/Model:    Moblel Cover Alpha
Mass:          23 tons
Construction Options:  Fractional Accounting

Equipment:                                 Items    Mass
Int. Struct.:  15 pts Standard               0      2.30
Engine:        150 XL Fusion                 2      3.07
Shielding & Transmission Equipment:          0      1.53
    Cruise MP:  12
     Flank MP:  18
Heat Sinks:     10 Single                    0       .00
Cockpit & Controls:                          0      1.15
Crew: 2 Members                              0       .00
Lift Equipment:                              0      2.30
Turret Equipment:                            0       .10
Armor Factor:   88 pts Standard              0      5.50

                          Internal    Armor
                          Structure   Value
   Front:                     3         27
   Left / Right Sides:        3      17/17
   Rear:                      3         12
   Turret:                    3         15

Weapons and Equipment    Loc  Heat  Ammo   Items    Mass
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1 Small X-Pulse Laser    Turret   3          1      1.00
Battlesuit Couch         Body                1      1.00
Battlesuit Couch         Body                1      1.00
Battlesuit Couch         Body                1      1.00
Battlesuit Couch         Body                1      1.00
Battlesuit Couch         Body                1      1.00
Battlesuit Couch         Body                1      1.00
--------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                           3          9     22.95
Items & Tons Left:                           0       .05

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:        1,587,020 C-Bills
Battle Value 2:    343 (old BV = 137)
Cost per BV:       4,626.88
Weapon Value:      29 / 29 (Ratio = .08 / .08)
Damage Factors:    SRDmg = 2;  MRDmg = 0;  LRDmg = 0
BattleForce2:      MP: 12H,  Armor/Structure: 0 / 3
                   Damage PB/M/L: -/-/-,  Overheat: 0
                   Class: GL;  Point Value: 3

What price managing the batteries in battlesuits?  :-\
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Re: Surprisingly Inexpensive … [Light Armor]
« Reply #40 on: 03 December 2020, 11:01:10 »
Check out under non combat support vehicles " Has anyone tried " . Single up to Assault battle  armor hover or VTOL small support vehicles. 5 of the costs less and moves them very fast . They are even fuel cell versions .  And if attacked enroute its 5 separate targets not 1 .