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kaliban

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Triple AC/20 - Demolisher big brother!
« on: 15 September 2020, 21:52:40 »
In case you accept using Fuel Cells in combat vehicles, this a 100ton version of the well-known Demolisher, with similar pros and cons but with 3 instead of 2 AC/20s.


Khalifa MkI

Mass: 100 tons
Movement Type: Tracked
Power Plant: 300 Fuel Cell
Cruising Speed: 32.4 kph
Maximum Speed: 54 kph
Armor: Standard
Armament:      3 AC/20
Cost: 5,255,000 C-bills
Battle Value: 1,207

Equipment                                          Mass
Internal Structure                                   10
Engine                        300 Fuel Cell          23
   Cruising MP: 3
   Flank MP:     5
Heat Sinks:                       1                       0
Control Equipment:                                 5.0
Power Amplifier:                                     0.0
Turret:                                                   4.5
Armor Factor                  152                   9.5

                          Internal   Armor   
                          Structure  Value   
     Front                   10        40   
     R/L Side           10/10     30/30   
     Rear                    10        22   
     Turret                  10        30   


Weapons
and Ammo              Location    Tonnage      
3 AC/20s               Turret            42.0   
AC/20 Ammo (30)         Body        6.0     
   

Hptm. Streiger

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Re: Triple AC/20 - Demolisher big brother!
« Reply #1 on: 16 September 2020, 02:44:35 »
There have to be a very special place in hell for people that put three Autocannons on a tank.

This thing must look like a WW2 Cruiser Tripple Turret on tracks....

acksed

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Re: Triple AC/20 - Demolisher big brother!
« Reply #2 on: 16 September 2020, 20:16:53 »
At some point, you have to ask yourself, "Do I have Enough Boomstick?" That is almost Enough Boomstick.

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Broadside

Mass: 100 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Motive Type: Tracked
Rules Level: Advanced Rules
Era: Clan Invasion
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-E-A
Production Year: 3070
Cost: 7,349,000 C-Bills
Battle Value: 1,527

Power Plant:  300 Fuel Cell Engine
Cruise Speed: 32.4 km/h
Flanking Speed: 54.0 km/h
Armor:  Heavy Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
    3  LB 20-X ACs
    1 Unknown CASE
Manufacturer:
    Primary Factory:
Communications System:
Targeting and Tracking System:

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Standard                      50 points               10.00
Engine:             Fuel-Cell Engine             300                      23.00
    Cruise MP:  3
    Flank MP:   5
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             1                         0.00
Control Equipment:                                                         5.00
Lift Equipment:                                                            0.00
Turret:                                                                    4.50
Armor:              Heavy Ferro-Fibrous          AV - 198                 10.00

                                                      Armor     
                                                      Factor     
                                               Front     48       
                                          Left/Right   39/39       
                                              Turret     40       
                                                Rear     32       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
3 LB 20-X ACs                                T         18        3        42.00
CASE                                         BD        -         1         0.50
@LB 20-X (Cluster) (10)                      BD        -         0         2.00
@LB 20-X (Slug) (15)                         BD        -         0         3.00

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      7    Points: 15
3t         3       3       0       0      4     0   Structure:  5
Special Abilities: CASE, EE, TUR(3/3/0, FLK 3/3/0), FLK 3/3/0
There. Now we have Enough Boomstick.
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garhkal

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Re: Triple AC/20 - Demolisher big brother!
« Reply #3 on: 17 September 2020, 01:19:55 »
I wonder, could someone do that with UAC-20s??
It's not who you kill, but how they die!
You can't shoot what you can't see.
You can not dodge it if you don't know it's coming.

kaliban

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Re: Triple AC/20 - Demolisher big brother!
« Reply #4 on: 17 September 2020, 08:38:40 »
I wonder, could someone do that with UAC-20s??

Yes, but you reduce armor tonnage a lot. Even with higher tech armor, it is hard to get a good design. Even this one is a bit short in armor for its size but is extremely fun to play in ambush or urban warfare.


garhkal

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Re: Triple AC/20 - Demolisher big brother!
« Reply #5 on: 17 September 2020, 13:47:22 »
How's about a clan version?
It's not who you kill, but how they die!
You can't shoot what you can't see.
You can not dodge it if you don't know it's coming.

Sabelkatten

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Re: Triple AC/20 - Demolisher big brother!
« Reply #6 on: 17 September 2020, 15:39:29 »
How's about a clan version?
And take to 133%! ;D

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Ultramolisher

Mass: 100 tons
Tech Base: Mixed
Motive Type: Tracked
Rules Level: Experimental Tech
Era: Dark Ages
Tech Rating/Era Availability: X/X-X-X-A
Production Year: 3132
Cost: 86,990,000 C-Bills
Battle Value: 2,570

Power Plant:  300 XXL Fusion Engine
Cruise Speed: 32.4 km/h
Flanking Speed: 54.0 km/h
Armor:  Vehicle Stealth Armor
Armament:
    4  (CL) Ultra AC/20s
    1 Unknown CASE
    1  Angel ECM
Manufacturer:
    Primary Factory:
Communications System:
Targeting and Tracking System:

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Standard                      60 points               10.00
Engine:             XXL Engine                   300                      10.00
    Cruise MP:  3
    Flank MP:   5
Heat Sinks:         (IS) Single Heat Sink        10                        0.00
Control Equipment:                                                         5.00
Lift Equipment:                                                            0.00
Turret:                                                                    2.50
Rear Turret:                                                               2.50
Armor:              Vehicle Stealth Armor        AV - 192                 12.00

                                                      Armor     
                                                      Factor     
                                               Front     45       
                                          Left/Right   36/36       
                                              Turret     25       
                                                Rear     25       
                                         Rear Turret     25       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2 (CL) Ultra AC/20s                          RT        14        2        24.00
2 (CL) Ultra AC/20s                          T         14        2        24.00
CASE                                         BD        -         0         0.00
Angel ECM                                    BD        0         1         2.00
@Ultra AC/20 (40)                            BD        -         0         8.00

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      6    Points: 26
3t        12      12       0       0      4     0   Structure:  6
Special Abilities: ECM, STL, CASE, AECM, TUR(6/6/0)

acksed

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Re: Triple AC/20 - Demolisher big brother!
« Reply #7 on: 17 September 2020, 18:41:36 »
And take to 133%! ;D
*snip*
Daaang. But... did you mean to front-mount the other two cUAC/20s? Because it'd give greater meaning to "broadside" otherwise. :P
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garhkal

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Re: Triple AC/20 - Demolisher big brother!
« Reply #8 on: 18 September 2020, 01:13:59 »
OUCH!!!  That would have to hurt ANY Mech.

It's not who you kill, but how they die!
You can't shoot what you can't see.
You can not dodge it if you don't know it's coming.

Sabelkatten

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Re: Triple AC/20 - Demolisher big brother!
« Reply #9 on: 18 September 2020, 03:11:55 »
Daaang. But... did you mean to front-mount the other two cUAC/20s? Because it'd give greater meaning to "broadside" otherwise. :P
All are turret-mounted?

As I understand it you get to chose which turret is higher, so put the rear turret "on top" and it's four guns across the front and sides. Yup, broadside! ^-^

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Re: Triple AC/20 - Demolisher big brother!
« Reply #10 on: 18 September 2020, 09:21:21 »
All are turret-mounted?

As I understand it you get to chose which turret is higher, so put the rear turret "on top" and it's four guns across the front and sides. Yup, broadside! ^-^
Ohh, dual turrets. Which lets you cover two arcs at once, or give 'em four barrels o' Hell. Yep, that's scary.
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kaliban

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Re: Triple AC/20 - Demolisher big brother!
« Reply #11 on: 18 September 2020, 11:41:42 »
A clan version is possible but my Battletech timeline ends before Clan Invasion.  :)

The Dark Ages design is great but it costs 87M c-bills versus 6M of the other one. Does it worth the money?
« Last Edit: 18 September 2020, 12:08:19 by kaliban »

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Re: Triple AC/20 - Demolisher big brother!
« Reply #12 on: 18 September 2020, 13:03:35 »
A clan version is possible but my Battletech timeline ends before Clan Invasion.  :)

The Dark Ages design is great but it costs 87M c-bills versus 6M of the other one. Does it worth the money?

It'd be useful on offense, but not on defense.  To me, for offense you want combat power per ton, for defense you want combat power per dollar


For Sabelkatten's Ultramolisher, I'd recommend that parts of the code be changed to:
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Ultramolisher
(snip)
Turret, Front:                                                             2.50
Turret, Rear:                                                              2.50
Armor:              Vehicle Stealth Armor        AV - 192                 12.00
                                                       Armor     
                                                       Factor     
                                       Turret, Front     25       
                                        Turret, Rear     25       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
(snip)
2 (CL) Ultra AC/20s                          TF        14        2        24.00
2 (CL) Ultra AC/20s                          TR        14        2        24.00
(snip)

Sabelkatten

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Re: Triple AC/20 - Demolisher big brother!
« Reply #13 on: 18 September 2020, 13:33:51 »
I've never considered how SAW codes those things... I knew what there was supposed to be!