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First Succession War
« on: 02 May 2016, 17:58:58 »
This thread is for all issues and problems with First Succession War.

Product Link: http://bg.battletech.com/test/historicals/the-first-succession-war/

There is no compiled errata for this product at this time.

Please remember to follow the errata report template when reporting issues.  Thanks.
« Last Edit: 26 July 2016, 20:24:18 by Xotl »
3028-3050 Random Assignment Tables -
Also contains faction deployment & rarity info and Quirk lists.

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Re: First Succession War
« Reply #1 on: 02 May 2016, 18:43:33 »
Page 155

Locust Alpha Strike entry reads LCT-1D

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LCT-1E

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Re: First Succession War
« Reply #2 on: 02 May 2016, 19:22:10 »
Pg 134

Third Paragraph - Other status is listed in [brackets]. If a combat command lists [NF] as its (2684) Strength

I believe 2684 is supposed to be 2786
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Re: First Succession War
« Reply #3 on: 02 May 2016, 20:40:55 »
1st PDF Printing
Rear Cover -

First Paragraph - Aleksandr Kerensky first name is misspelled "Alexsandr".

Change to Aleksandr Kerensky - All spelling of the character in the source book match this spelling.
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Re: First Succession War
« Reply #4 on: 02 May 2016, 21:10:31 »
1st PDF Printing
Pg. 39

Third Paragraph - Indeed, the only notable support Clovis received came in the form of a small naval flotilla consisting of the Robinson-class carrier New Ivaarsen and four attached DropShips bearing troops hastily pulled from Xhosa VII.

Note: Robinson is mislabeled as a Carrier instead of a Transport. Since it's troop moving ship verses dedicated fighter carrier ship. 

Change to:  Indeed, the only notable support Clovis received came in the form of a small naval flotilla consisting of the Robinson-class Transport New Ivaarsen and four attached DropShips bearing troops hastily pulled from Xhosa VII.
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Re: First Succession War
« Reply #5 on: 02 May 2016, 22:28:05 »
1st Printing, PDF
Page 13, "To the Brink", third paragraph

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The first world to official leave the Hegemony was Syrma, which had been jointly controlled with House Steiner.

Error: Wrong form of "official"

Correction: change "official" to "officially"
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Re: First Succession War
« Reply #6 on: 03 May 2016, 00:31:57 »
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Page 27, "Draconis Combine Gains", fourth paragraph

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This included the war-ravaged world of Lambrecht, and Al Na’ir—one of the earliest planets colonize Star League: the Lyran border world of Engadin, and Deshler and Fellanin II near the Davion border.

Error: a couple of them here.  I can't tell if Al Na'ir is supposed to be the object of the parenthetical remark, or Engadin.  I'm assuming it's Al Na'ir from context.  Additionally, the hyphen and colon don't match up.  Thirdly, colonize is not conjugated.

Correction: "Al Na'ir—one of the earliest colonized planets in the Star League—the Lyran border world of Engadin"
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Re: First Succession War
« Reply #7 on: 03 May 2016, 01:13:27 »
1st Printing, PDF
Page 34, "Those Left Behind (Con't)" table, second section heading.

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Joining Joining Periphery/Going Rogue

Error: "Joining" printed twice.

Correction: Remove second instance of "Joining".
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Re: First Succession War
« Reply #8 on: 04 May 2016, 01:45:03 »
1st Printing, PDF
page 41
"Meanwhile, the Combine’s orbiting corvettes returned to face the FedSuns
ships in orbit"

Error: these ships are Baron class destroyers according to page 40 last paragraph and page 41 second paragraph.

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Re: First Succession War
« Reply #9 on: 04 May 2016, 01:48:05 »
1st Printing, PDF
page 42

"The second group, meanwhile,
neutralized the DCS Benjamin, an ancient Samarkand-class
transport"

Error: change transport to carrier since  it's a dedicated fighter carrier

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Re: First Succession War
« Reply #10 on: 04 May 2016, 09:51:13 »
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Page 34

"14th Army, 3rd Striker Regiment"

Error: This formation does not appear in Field Manual SLDF at all let alone under the 14th Army's Order of Battle

Suggested Correction: add the phrase "Ad-Hoc" before 3rd Striker, showing the unit having been developed during Operation LIBERATION
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Re: First Succession War
« Reply #11 on: 04 May 2016, 11:47:19 »
1st PDF Printing

Page 152

Under Random Unit Assignment Table: SLDF, Light Units (20 to 35 Tons), middle column "C (2-)".

Problem: A roll of 9 indicates a "STG-3T Stinger [20] (3039)". No such 'Mech was published in TR3039, or other source to date.

Suggestion: Change to "STG-3R Stinger [20] (3039)".  "STG-3T" was most likely a typo, and the T and R key are next to each other.  Another alternative would be "STG-3G Stinger [20] (3039)", which is also feasible, and the T key is also near the G key on the keyboard.
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Re: First Succession War
« Reply #12 on: 06 May 2016, 08:19:59 »
1st PDF Printing

Page 134
Above the deployment tables
"Other status is listed in [brackets]. If a combat command lists [NF] as its (2684) Strength, it was not yet formed at the start of the war"

Error: 2684 should probably be changed to 2786 to match the table and 2684 is far too early  as a 1st Succession War reference point.

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Re: First Succession War
« Reply #13 on: 06 May 2016, 10:54:44 »
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Page 11, Out of Darkness, paragraph 4

Error:  "was intended to being about"

Suggested correction:  "was intended to bring about"

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Re: First Succession War
« Reply #14 on: 06 May 2016, 17:22:34 »
1st PDF Printing

Draconis Combine Mustered Soldiery Deployment Table, page 137

Missing the following units that need to be added to the list:
8th Pesht Regulars (Field Report: 2765 DCMS – pg. 13)

Those Left Behind section and Deployment Table section:

The following unit needs to be added to the order of battle because it exists during the First Succession War:

Lone Star Regiment (fusion of the remnants of the 77th Amaris Dragoons with elements of the 205th and 331st Royal Battlemech Divisions) (The Lone Star Regiment is specifically stated to be serving with the Draconis Combine at the start of the Second Succession War) (Mercenary Supplemental Update – pg. 87)


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Re: First Succession War
« Reply #15 on: 08 May 2016, 08:24:06 »
1st PDF printing pg. 50
The map of the DC/LC border is incorrect.  The line showing the 2786 border is incorrect.   The planet Nox should be on the LC side of the border, not the DC side.  - See the map on Pg. 25.  The text on pg. 50  also supports this as it refers to the capture of Nox some time after 2788.




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Re: First Succession War
« Reply #16 on: 08 May 2016, 11:55:47 »
PDF 1st Printing p. 52
In the operation Silver Shield section it says:
By far the greatest resistance to SILVER SHIELD, in fact, came from two former SLDF mechanized infantry divisions—the Seventy- First and the 123rd—in the Amazonia region of Terra’s South America continent.

The 71st was destroyed in the Periphery Uprising (SLSB p. 149).  Per the table on p.36 of 1st SW it was the 79th Mechanized that was destroyed on Terra in 2788. (this also matches SLSB p. 147 which has the fate of the 79th as unknown.)

The corrected text should be:
By far the greatest resistance to SILVER SHIELD, in fact, came from two former SLDF mechanized infantry divisions—the Seventy- Ninth and the 123rd—in the Amazonia region of Terra’s South America continent.

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Re: First Succession War
« Reply #17 on: 08 May 2016, 12:56:24 »
p. 19, last paragraph. The Latin motto reads "Ad respiratio ultimas"

This should be "Ad Respirationem Ultimam"

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Re: First Succession War
« Reply #18 on: 09 May 2016, 09:48:43 »
Not Errata:
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8th Pesht Regulars (Field Report: 2765 DCMS – pg. 13)
No such unit at that time. Even if there was, something happened to it between 2765 and 2786
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Lone Star Regiment
They could, perhaps should, appear on the Those Left Behind Tables, but they were not formed until after the First Succession War, so do not appear on Deployment Tables. The activities of the 205th, 77th, and 331st (and their descendants)—who eventually formed the Lone Star Regiment—are unknown prior to that point.
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Re: First Succession War
« Reply #19 on: 09 May 2016, 16:10:41 »
PDF p.126
The Minnesota Tribe section, second paragraph, fourth sentence:

"A third attack by the Tribe against on Jarrett on 19 August 2826 further demonstrated the skill of the invaders and the weakness of the Combine position."

Remove one of the highlighted words, or replace both with something that reads better, like 'struck'.

"A third attack by the tribe against Jarrett on 19 August 2826 ..."

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Re: First Succession War
« Reply #20 on: 09 May 2016, 16:49:20 »
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P. 74 last paragraph
Bella I, located centrally along the border between the two realms, fell to House Steiner in 2806, but stood between the League-occupied worlds of Hornir’s Keep and Alula Australis (after the latter was taken in late 2812).

Should be Alula Borealis - Alula Australis is located near Terra, not Bella I

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Re: First Succession War
« Reply #21 on: 09 May 2016, 19:37:57 »
PDF 1st printing pg 78

2nd to last paragraph:
The League lost all three of its WarShip escorts , along with more than half of their assembled JumpShips, with the remainder leaping out-system in panic at the loss of their escorts.

In the prior paragraph the FWL is said to have 4 warships in the system- 2 Cruisers and a pair of Corvettes.  So the above sentence should be changed to :

The League lost all four of its WarShip escorts, along with more than half of their assembled JumpShips, with the remainder leaping out-system in panic at the loss of their escorts.

Alternately you could leave out the word all and imply that one warship escaped the system, but from the wording and context it sounds like all of the warships were destroyed.

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Re: First Succession War
« Reply #22 on: 09 May 2016, 21:57:24 »
PDF 1st Printing p. 92

The FS/CC border map does not match the descriptions of the FS/CC actions on page 81.  Based on the text in 2801 the following worlds should be in CC territory:
Farwell, Demeter, Sanilac,  Ogilvie,  Branzoll

(Ogilvie and Branzoll are questionable- the other 4 worlds deep in the FS that were captured by the CC were abandoned in 2800- these two were probably abandoned at the same time.)

The map is also missing Sonnia.- It should be between Tawas and Caselton

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Re: First Succession War
« Reply #23 on: 10 May 2016, 08:02:35 »
PDF 1st Printing, Pages 17 and 139

Issue: The table entitled "Comparative Inner Sphere Military Strengths" gives the number of active WarShips in each Successor State as at 2786 as:

Capellan Confederation: 153
Draconis Combine: 194
Federated Suns: 184
Free Worlds League: 163
Lyran Commonwealth: 216

The table entitled "Active WarShips of the Great Houses" on page 140 contradicts this, giving the following count for active WarShips for each Successor State:

Capellan Confederation: 157
Draconis Combine: 199
Federated Suns: 184
Free Worlds League: 159
Lyran Commonwealth: 217

As both tables purport to give the active WarShip count for each state, they shouldn't contradict each other.

Solution: Either adjust the table on page 17 to match that on page 139, or vice-versa.

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Re: First Succession War
« Reply #24 on: 10 May 2016, 10:55:53 »
PDF 1st Printing, Pages 17 and 139
Note: I'll need to dig up dates to assign for errata, both entries are correct, but one is for early in the year (pre-1SW), the latter for the very start of the war (December-ish)
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Re: First Succession War
« Reply #25 on: 22 May 2016, 08:07:00 »
pg 138, deployment tables

error: 30th Marik Militia is listed twice

correction: change the second entry to the 31st Marik Militia, assume this was just a typo

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Re: First Succession War
« Reply #26 on: 27 July 2016, 20:03:54 »
PDF pg 157 Wasp TRO weapon entry

Under the 1L variant the SRM 4 should show 2 tons not 3

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Re: First Succession War
« Reply #27 on: 16 October 2016, 23:20:46 »
1st PDF Printing
Pg. 57-58, 114

Problem
- Conflicting Dates.
Summary: New Delos Massacre is noted that it accrued in April 2788, and caused reprisal raid by flotilla of warships which bombarded worlds of Ingersoll, Corey and Wazan late in July 2788 as noted on pages 57,58, 60.  However in the timeline section in the back of the book it's says the these events accrued in 2789 instead.

Suggested Correction: I suspect it's 2788 date is the right year, but I'm holding off any suggestion until we hear from Writers here.
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Re: First Succession War
« Reply #28 on: 17 October 2016, 11:41:51 »
1st Print Edition
Page 31

The picture shows soldiers of the the SLDF receiving a new flag.

The man giving the flag has the insignia of the Crucis Lancers on his arms. And the flag seems to be the flag of the Crucis Lancers.
The SLDF soldiers have the 29 insignia on their breasts.

12th Army, 29th Mechanized Infantry Division joined the DCMS
12th Army, 29th CAAN Marine Regiment joined Magistracy of Canopus

According to the deployment of the 12th Army, II Corps (to which both of the above mentioned units belonged) it would make sense to change the flag (on the man and on the flag he is carrying) to House Kurita.

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Re: First Succession War
« Reply #29 on: 27 October 2016, 10:33:29 »
PDF 1st Printing, Page 122

Issue: "The Lyran Commonwealth’s war was a mixed bag. It lost many worlds, including several important planets such as Nox, Juniper, and Alula Australis..."

Juniper is mentioned elsewhere in First Succession War as a low value world:

"Even low-value planets were targeted, such as Juniper, a Kannon Shire colony barely fifteen years old when Kurita raiders hit the main settlement and its surrounding lake valley with strontium-laced nuclear ordnance." (Page 62)

The two contradict each other; given that Juniper doesn't seem to exist in any other canon source or on any maps outside First Succession War that I can easily lay my hands on, it would appear that it's more likely to have been an insignificant world than an important one.

Solution: Replace Juniper with another world - possibly Dove, given that Dove is described in Field Report 2765: LCAF as being home to a major aerospace manufacturer producing more aerospace fighters than almost anywhere outside Sol, and got nuked and poisoned badly enough it was declared dead in 2815.

PDF 1st Printing, Page 44, Para 3

Issue: "By the end of 2795, the Dragon’s banner flew over the worlds of Odell, Saginaw, and Delavan, while minor worlds such as Acoma, Arcadia, Chota, and Nouveau Toulouse began dying, either as a result of direct wartime damage or the starvation and disease that followed the collapse of their local trade and infrastructure"

Arcadia isn't marked on the map on page 44 as being a dead or dying world, unlike the others mentioned in the text; in addition, as established by Handbook: House Davion and House Davion (The Federated Suns) Arcadia was one of the garden worlds in the Crucis Pact and was a contemporary of New Avalon, nearly becoming the capital of the Federated Suns and with at least one First Prince marrying a noblewoman from Arcadia. This would seem contradictory with it being listed as a minor world in a list of dying minor worlds.

Solution: replace Arcadia in the list with Chaumont (or possibly Korvitz or Maison). Chaumont is another minor Star League-era colony world that died in the First Succession War, and is marked as a dead or dying world on the map on P. 44, but also usefully isn't inside the area marked as being conquered by the first or second Combine invasion areas, which would help emphasise that the damage caused by the invasion on trade and infrastructure wasn't limited solely to those worlds that actually changed hands. Chaumont is also in the Fairfax combat region, so it could have been invaded by the Combine in the opening stages and be one of the handful of worlds mentioned as being recaptured (without being named) during Prince John's Operation SOLAR SHIELD. Korvitz and Maison are Crucis March worlds near New Avalon that also died off during the First Succession War and are marked as dead or dying worlds, and might also be worth listing in place of Arcadia, as they are far enough from the invasion corridor to be unlikely to have been conquered and less likely to have been attacked, but would help emphasise the effects of transport disruption - although Maison reappears on maps of 2822 in Handbook: House Davion and Historical: Liberation of Terra Volume 2, which is a little odd (but possibly a result of confusion between Maison and the Lyran Commonwealth system of Maisons?).

Alternatively, if the need is for the dead and dying minor worlds listed in the text to all be within the shaded invasion areas of the map on the same page, replace Arcadia with Tallassee or Versailles.

PDF 1st Printing, Page 134-135

Issue: Several of the AFFS unit locations in 2821 within the deployment table are wrong, as per this comment from Adrian Gideon:

There are a few such minor (final deployment) errors in that table.
On the Federated Suns final deployment, the First Arcadian Cuirassiers should be on Raman, the Davion Assault Guards should be on Bromhead, and both the Bald Eagles and Night Eagles should be on Demeter.

PDF 1st Printing, Page 92, Map Image

Issue: The map showing the Confederation/Suns border changes throughout the war doesn't match the text. This was mentioned as errata a few posts above mine, but having gone through the text in detail, there are more issues than were identified there.

The timeline for the various border world exchanges based on pages 81-82 (Quinn's War: the Confederation-Suns Front) is:

2795 - CCAF seizes Caselton, Mirach (see below) (by August) and Demeter by Dec (note: Caselton and Mirach are shown on the map on page 45 as being conquered by the Combine in the 2787-2791 invasion waves, although I'm presuming the AFFS had managed to recapture them at some point)
2796 - CCAF seizes Farwell (Apr), Sanilac (Jun) and Sonnia (Oct)
2797 - CCAF seizes Tawas (Jun), Carmacks, Ogilvie, Sekulman, Salem, Branzoll, Victoria
2798 - CCAF seizes Ulan Batar (Jun)
2799 - CCAF seizes Everett, Mirach (see above), Schedar - (Note: Mirach is listed as having been captured twice; on page 98, in the list of FedSuns counterattacks, it's noted that Tedibyhr was recaptured by the FedSuns in 2807, but with no mention of it's original occupation date in the text anywhere. Based on Tedibyhr's location near Everett and Schedar, and the mention of Mirach twice, I think the 2799 capture of Mirach should actually be Tedibyhr being captured)

The timeline for the various border world exchanges based on page 82 (Caught in the Capellan Crossfire) is:

2800 - CCAF relinquishes Salem, Victoria, Carmacks and Sekulman to redeploy forces elsewhere

The timeline for the various border world exchanges based on page 98 (The Davion Counter-Offensives) is:

2799 - AFFS recaptures Sanilac
2800 - AFFS recaptures Tawas
2807 - AFFS recaptures Caselton
2809 - AFFS recaptures Ulan Batar, Farwell
2809-10 - AFFS recaptures Demeter
2810 - AFFS recaptures Tedibyhr
2810-11 - AFFS recaptures Mirach

And on page 97 (Liao's Last Play: The Battle for Chesterton) it's mentioned that at some point after 2812 but before 2821 the CCAF recaptured Caselton, Farwell, Mirach and Ulan Batar.

This leaves a lot of inconsistencies/errors that could be captured more accurately in several different ways:

Solution 1: Re-title the map on page 92 to "Capellan Confederation-Federated Suns Front 2786-2800" and make the following changes:

Demeter should be shaded in, as it had been captured by the CCAF
Sanilac should be hatched in, as it had been captured by the CCAF and then lost
Farwell should be shaded in, as it had been captured by the CCAF
Tawas should be hatched in, as it had been captured by the CCAF and then lost
Carmacks should be hatched in, as it had been captured and then abandoned
Salem should be hatched in, as it had been captured and then abandoned
Victoria should be hatched in, as it had been captured and then abandoned
Sekulman should be hatched in, as it had been captured and then abandoned
Branzoll should be shaded in, as it had been captured by the CCAF (although I'm not clear when it was recaptured by the AFFS, or if it was abandoned)
Ogilvie should be shaded in, as it had been captured by the CCAF (although I'm not clear when it was recaptured by the AFFS, or if it was abandoned)
Tedibhyr should be shaded in, as it had been captured by the CCAF
Atlas, Bodnath, Kumqwat, Shaunavon, Daol and Mendham should be unshaded, as their capture occured much later

Solution 2: Keep the map title as is, and make the following changes

Demeter should be hatched in, as it was captured and then lost in a reversal
Farwell should be shaded to show it's capture either in 2811-2816 or 2816-2821 (to match Ulan Batar on the map)
Sanilac should be hatched in, as it was captured and then lost in a reversal
Mirach should be re-shaded to match Ulan Batar
Caselton should be re-shaded to match Ulan Batar
Carmacks, Salem, Victoria, Sekulman and Branzoll should be hatched, to show their capture and abandonment/loss
Tedibyhr should be hatched, to show it's capture and subsequent loss

PDF 1st Printing, Page 94, The Second AFFS Counteroffensive: Squeezing the Bulge, Paras 1&2
PDF 1st Printing, Page 97, Liao's Last Play: The Battle for Chesteron, Para 7
PDF 1st Printing, Page 98, The Davion Counter-Offensives, 2807
PDF 1st Printing, Page 115, Timeline of the First Succession War, 2795
PDF 1st Printing, Page 116, Timeline of the First Succession War, 2807, 2816
PDF 1st Printing, Page 154, Battle History, Para 3

Issue: Caselton is incorrectly spelled as "Castleton"

Solution: Correct spelling to Caselton

PDF First Printing, Page 82, "Caught In The Capellan Crossfire", 1st Para

Issue: The paragraph contains the following sentence: "Prior to the Kentares Massacre, sporadic, border-testing raids between Capellan and Combine recon units were common, but had begun to taper off by the mid-2890s." From the context in the section, this should be 2790s, not 2890s.

Solution: Correct the reference to 2790s.

PDF 1st Printing, Page 137

Issue: The location of the 3rd Atrean Dragoons on the FWLM deployment table in 2786 is given as New Dallas. However, the information given on page 30 about the fate of New Dallas specifies that the 3rd Atrean Dragoons, 5th Atrean Dragoons and 7th Marik Militia attacked New Dallas in March 2787. Neither the 5th Atrean Dragoons or the 7th Marik Militia are shown on page 137 as being on New Dallas, indicating that the location given for the 3rd Atrean Dragoons at this point is wrong.

Solution: Have the 3rd Atrean Dragoons listed elsewhere.

PDF 1st Printing, Page 139

Issue: The 17th Sian Dragoons entry has a dagger symbol next to the unit name, which the key states means the unit was a former SLDF unit. However, the 17th Sian Dragoons already existed in 2765 according to Field Report 2765: CCAF, and there's no mention of the 17th Sian Dragoons as a former SLDF unit on the page 32 listing "Those Left Behind", although the 18th-24th Sian Dragoons are all listed as former SLDF units.

Solution: Delete the dagger symbol next to the 17th on page 139.
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