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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #1170 on: 28 August 2020, 16:37:32 »
Thank you, Wierdo. Wrong book on my part.

Nckestrel is correct.

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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #1171 on: 29 August 2020, 15:09:22 »
Regarding the Shadow Cat III, the fluff suggests that the 'Mech is used by Clan Sea Fox.
Should they be added as one of the Dark Age factions the unit is available to?

EDIT: also, a small thing I noticed, if it matters: the new BattleMaster variants introduced in RecGuide 3 (EG: -6C, -6G, etc) appear to use a version of the art without any shadowing, while older classic variants that were up before the RecGuide came out (eg: -1G, -3S, etc) use the same art with shadowing.
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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #1172 on: 29 August 2020, 15:31:42 »
Speaking of BattleMasters, the new BattleMaster C 3 is listed as available to Nova Cats, who are dead by the 'Mech's introduction date.
Unless the intent is that Nova Cat faction also represents those remnants who joined the Clan Protectorate? Or perhaps the Beemer's introduction date should be considerably earlier?

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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #1173 on: 31 August 2020, 05:31:45 »
The image for the Bushwacker from Recognition Guide 2 has not been updated yet; can one of the MUL administrators please update it so that I can generate Alpha Strike cards with the gorgeous new artwork, please?

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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #1174 on: 04 September 2020, 18:35:41 »
The Zeus ZEU-11S is showing a BV of 1957 on the MUL.  The Recognition Guide Volume 2 record sheet shows that it should be 2280.  Building it in MML also gets me to 2280.


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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #1176 on: 10 September 2020, 21:14:26 »
The MUL has been updated to properly return .5 tonnage values, for units such as Heavy Battle Armor.
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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #1177 on: 25 September 2020, 16:56:07 »
When to wait in MUL data from Recognition Guide: ilClan Vol. Five and Six?

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« Reply #1178 on: 01 October 2020, 15:26:24 »
When to wait in MUL data from Recognition Guide: ilClan Vol. Five and Six?

I'm sure the MUL team is working on Rec Guides 5 and 6.  I don't know if the moratorium period needs to pass before they post those two volumes.  Moratorium on Vol 5 has passed, but Vol 6 wont be out of the blackout period until October 9th.

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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #1179 on: 01 October 2020, 15:31:35 »
I'm sure the MUL team is working on Rec Guides 5 and 6.  I don't know if the moratorium period needs to pass before they post those two volumes.  Moratorium on Vol 5 has passed, but Vol 6 wont be out of the blackout period until October 9th.
Other volumes did not have a moratorium period. why 5 and 6 have it?
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« Reply #1180 on: 01 October 2020, 16:06:29 »
The other volumes did indeed have a moratorium.
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« Reply #1181 on: 01 October 2020, 16:27:26 »
There is no moratorium.  It's purely a matter of I'm busy elsewhere.

There was briefly a motatorium when the first volume or two was released, and then the decision was made to not have one.  5 and 6 are not up because the work hasn't been done.
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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #1182 on: 01 October 2020, 18:29:54 »
I sit corrected.
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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #1183 on: 02 October 2020, 11:09:14 »
I sit corrected.

I too sit corrected, in a wonky office chair that is killing my lower back.

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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #1184 on: 02 October 2020, 15:14:01 »
nckestrel, Weirdo

thanks for your works :thumbsup:

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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #1185 on: 04 October 2020, 18:39:38 »
There is no moratorium.  It's purely a matter of I'm busy elsewhere.

There was briefly a motatorium when the first volume or two was released, and then the decision was made to not have one.  5 and 6 are not up because the work hasn't been done.

While not related to new stuff coming out. Any chance we can get prices on the MUL for Aerospace units (Fighters, Dropships, Jumpships etc.)?
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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #1186 on: 05 October 2020, 17:52:36 »
I'm aware that the RATs are not hard canon, and are more game aids, but I also know it's been said they were good estimations for what an average force would typically look like.
Therefore: would units appearing on a faction's RAT table from a Field Manual justify including that unit in a factions availability list in the MUL?


A few examples from FM:3145 :
Wusun (Fed Suns pg234, Hell's Horses pg236, Jade Falcon pg236, Sea Fox pg237, Wolf pg237, Rasalhague pg238)
http://masterunitlist.info/Unit/Details/5423/wusun-base
Night Wolf (Hell's Horses pg218, Jade Falcon pg218)
http://masterunitlist.info/Unit/Details/2273/night-wolf-standard

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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #1187 on: 06 October 2020, 16:04:20 »
PROBLEM: The Prefect -3R currently has an introductory date of 3110, but the design carried a radical heat sink, which has an introductory date of 3122 (p.42, IntOps)

FIX: Move introductory date for the Prefect to 3122.
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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #1188 on: 09 October 2020, 23:05:26 »
Just spotted this—the four BattleMechs from OTP:Fronc Reaches are missing from the MUL.
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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #1189 on: 17 October 2020, 23:00:25 »
Wild question...

What would it take to get the Fidelis listed as a selectable Faction, and their units listed?
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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #1190 on: 17 October 2020, 23:16:14 »
If my kickstarter rewards arrive tommorrow, I will add the Fidelis.
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« Reply #1191 on: 17 October 2020, 23:17:59 »
If my kickstarter rewards arrive tommorrow, I will add the Fidelis.

Dude...tell me where it is and I'll intercept it...drive it up to you, and go back home so you can work! LOL

Thanks nckestrel. Hopefully they get added, it would be nice to see them in there as well as a couple other units, but definitely the Fidelis.
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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #1192 on: 30 October 2020, 05:30:30 »
Trojan class DropShip

Problem 1: This arguably shouldn't be a class unto its own given that Trojan basically means "up-gunned Danais", to the point where there are no hard stats for the Trojan. The stats given are merely those of a "typical" Trojan refit.

Problem 2: The introduction date is given in the MUL as 2720. That can't be right: The Trojan derives from the Danais, and the Danais has an intro date of 2728 according to the MUL (which seems to be correct; the fluff in Jihad Secrets p. 153 states it was designed in the late 2720s). It follows that the intro date for the Trojan must be after 2728.
(The record sheets for both vessels in Jihad Secrets p. 167, 168 state "Tech Base: Inner Sphere 2720")
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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #1193 on: 12 November 2020, 13:24:52 »
Question regarding the Introductory date for the Nova (Black Hawk): http://masterunitlist.info/Unit/Details/342/black-hawk-nova-prime

The TRO gives it an introductory date of 2870, and states that it "...made its battlefield debut during the assault on Kindraa Smythe-Jewel on Foster."

The battle on Foster, however, occurred in 2872. Should its introductory date be moved forward by two years?
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« Reply #1194 on: 19 November 2020, 23:59:16 »
Thor II D has the “JMPS1” ability on it’s AS card and Thor II E does not. Pretty sure that’s mixed up :)

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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #1195 on: 20 November 2020, 00:03:10 »
Question regarding the Introductory date for the Nova (Black Hawk): http://masterunitlist.info/Unit/Details/342/black-hawk-nova-prime

The TRO gives it an introductory date of 2870, and states that it "...made its battlefield debut during the assault on Kindraa Smythe-Jewel on Foster."

The battle on Foster, however, occurred in 2872. Should its introductory date be moved forward by two years?

The same TRO page, in the overview, says it was produced in 2870.  Apparently it managed to go two years without being in a battle.
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« Reply #1196 on: 20 November 2020, 01:34:38 »
The same TRO page, in the overview, says it was produced in 2870.  Apparently it managed to go two years without being in a battle.

Yeah, that's the reason I brought it up. I was wondering if there had been any internal thought about changing its intro date to 2872, or if the consensus was that the Horses were hoarding them for two years. It's fine by me either way, but it is something that jumped out at me as being a bit unusual and worth bringing up.
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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #1197 on: 25 November 2020, 10:27:34 »
Images for the following units are missing as of Nov 25, 2020

Archer   ARC-7S
Archer   ARC-9K
Archer   ARC-9W
Marauder   MAD-6L
Marauder IIC   3
Marauder IIC   7
Rifleman   RFL-6D
Rifleman   RFL-9T
Rifleman II   RFL-3N-2
Stinger   STG-3Gb
Stinger   STG-5G
Stinger   STG-5M
Stinger   STG-5T
Valkyrie   VLK-QD4
Aquilla Transport Jumpship   (Standard)
Ibex RV   (Militarized; Gauss)
Ibex RV   (Militarized; MG)
Ibex RV   (Standard)
Standard Infantry Outpost   (All Eras)
Fortified Infantry Bunker   (Age of War)
Fortified Infantry Bunker   (Clan Invasion)
Fortified Infantry Outpost   (FedCom Civil War)
Shikra   SKR-4M
Caerleon   (Standard)
Gorgon Carrier   (Standard)
Rifleman II   RFL-3N-2 (Kataga)

 

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