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ANS Kamas P81

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Battlemech art edits
« on: 26 October 2022, 21:50:46 »
Not much to see here, just putting PPCs on an Archer.  Why?  Why not.  Not satisfied with the clunky way the left elbow is, but I'm pretty limited in my art skills.  Redrawing is not going to happen.

I wonder how this would look as a mini.
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Re: Battlemech art edits
« Reply #1 on: 26 October 2022, 22:10:39 »
Threw togerther a quick build of a Clan refit to fit the pic

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ArcherHammer ARC-WHM

Mass: 70 tons
Chassis: Standard Biped
Power Plant: 280 XL
Cruising Speed: 43.2 kph
Maximum Speed: 64.8 kph
Jump Jets: None
     Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor: Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
     2 LRM 20
     2 ER Medium Laser
     2 ER PPC
Manufacturer: Unknown
     Primary Factory: Unknown
Communication System: Unknown
Targeting & Tracking System: Unknown
Introduction Year: 3005
Tech Rating/Availability: F/X-X-E-E
Cost: 14,576,933 C-bills

Type: ArcherHammer
Technology Base: Mixed (Standard)
Tonnage: 70
Battle Value: 2,453

Equipment                                          Mass
Internal Structure                                    7
Engine                        280 XL                  8
Walking MP: 4
Running MP: 6
Jumping MP: 0
Double Heat Sink              20 [40]                10
Gyro                                                  3
Cockpit                                               3
Armor Factor (Ferro)          211                    11

                          Internal   Armor   
                          Structure  Value   
     Head                    3         9     
     Center Torso            22        32   
     Center Torso (rear)               10   
     R/L Torso               15        23   
     R/L Torso (rear)                  7     
     R/L Arm                 11        21   
     R/L Leg                 15        29   


Right Arm Actuators: Shoulder, Upper Arm, Lower Arm
Left Arm Actuators: Shoulder, Upper Arm, Lower Arm

Weapons
and Ammo              Location  Critical   Heat    Tonnage
Double Heat Sink         LL        2        -       1.0   
LRM 20 Ammo (12)         RT        2        -       2.0   
2 Double Heat Sink       RT        4        -       2.0   
LRM 20                   RT        4        6       5.0   
ER PPC                   LA        2        15      6.0   
2 Double Heat Sink       LA        4        -       2.0   
LRM 20 Ammo (12)         LT        2        -       2.0   
2 Double Heat Sink       LT        4        -       2.0   
LRM 20                   LT        4        6       5.0   
2 ER Medium Laser      CT(R)       2        5       2.0   
Double Heat Sink         RL        2        -       1.0   
ER PPC                   RA        2        15      6.0   
Double Heat Sink         RA        2        -       1.0   

Features the following design quirks: Battle Fists (LA), Battle Fists (RA), Command 'Mech, Stable, Ubiquitous (Inner Sphere)


I am going to try this in MM when I get the chance.  Looks like fun carnage!

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Re: Battlemech art edits
« Reply #2 on: 26 October 2022, 22:21:45 »
Ooh, I like that.  It's got enough heat sinks to throw an alpha strike for only +2, even...I might step the rear ERMLs down to ERSLs and add one more heat sink if you have the crits, just to go neutral on a full doomspray.

Also, I added a Rifleman's arms to an Archer here.  Only the top half of the image because I can't redraw the knee; the original Archer art has its hand in the way and there's just too much detail to get right.
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Re: Battlemech art edits
« Reply #3 on: 26 October 2022, 23:09:12 »
I will tinker tomorrow. Thanks!

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Re: Battlemech art edits
« Reply #4 on: 26 October 2022, 23:26:59 »
All right, I couldn't resist...

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ArcherHammer ARC-WHM2

Mass: 70 tons
Chassis: Standard Biped
Power Plant: 280 XL
Cruising Speed: 43.2 kph
Maximum Speed: 64.8 kph
Jump Jets: None
     Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor: Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
     2 LRM 20
     2 ER PPC
     2 ER Small Laser
Manufacturer: Unknown
     Primary Factory: Unknown
Communication System: Unknown
Targeting & Tracking System: Unknown
Introduction Year: 3005
Tech Rating/Availability: F/X-X-E-E
Cost: 14,183,383 C-bills

Type: ArcherHammer
Technology Base: Mixed (Standard)
Tonnage: 70
Battle Value: 2,397

Equipment                                          Mass
Internal Structure                                    7
Engine                        280 XL                  8
Walking MP: 4
Running MP: 6
Jumping MP: 0
Double Heat Sink              21 [42]                11
Gyro                                                  3
Cockpit                                               3
Armor Factor (Ferro)          211                    11

                          Internal   Armor   
                          Structure  Value   
     Head                    3         9     
     Center Torso            22        32   
     Center Torso (rear)               10   
     R/L Torso               15        23   
     R/L Torso (rear)                  7     
     R/L Arm                 11        21   
     R/L Leg                 15        29   


Right Arm Actuators: Shoulder, Upper Arm, Lower Arm
Left Arm Actuators: Shoulder, Upper Arm, Lower Arm

Weapons
and Ammo              Location  Critical   Heat    Tonnage
Double Heat Sink         LL        2        -       1.0   
2 Double Heat Sink       RT        4        -       2.0   
LRM 20 Ammo (12)         RT        2        -       2.0   
LRM 20                   RT        4        6       5.0   
2 Double Heat Sink       LA        4        -       2.0   
ER PPC                   LA        2        15      6.0   
2 Double Heat Sink       LT        4        -       2.0   
LRM 20 Ammo (12)         LT        2        -       2.0   
LRM 20                   LT        4        6       5.0   
2 ER Small Laser       CT(R)       2        2       1.0   
Double Heat Sink         RL        2        -       1.0   
2 Double Heat Sink       RA        4        -       2.0   
ER PPC                   RA        2        15      6.0   



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ArcherMan ARC-RFL

Mass: 70 tons
Chassis: Standard Biped
Power Plant: 280 XL
Cruising Speed: 43.2 kph
Maximum Speed: 64.8 kph
Jump Jets: None
     Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor: Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
     2 LRM 20
     2 ER Small Laser
     2 Medium Pulse Laser
     2 ER Large Laser
Manufacturer: Unknown
     Primary Factory: Unknown
Communication System: Unknown
Targeting & Tracking System: Unknown
Introduction Year: 3005
Tech Rating/Availability: F/X-X-E-E
Cost: 14,047,383 C-bills

Type: ArcherMan
Technology Base: Mixed (Standard)
Tonnage: 70
Battle Value: 2,270

Equipment                                          Mass
Internal Structure                                    7
Engine                        280 XL                  8
Walking MP: 4
Running MP: 6
Jumping MP: 0
Double Heat Sink              21 [42]                11
Gyro                                                  3
Cockpit                                               3
Armor Factor (Ferro)          211                    11

                          Internal   Armor   
                          Structure  Value   
     Head                    3         9     
     Center Torso            22        32   
     Center Torso (rear)               10   
     R/L Torso               15        23   
     R/L Torso (rear)                  7     
     R/L Arm                 11        21   
     R/L Leg                 15        29   


Right Arm Actuators: Shoulder, Upper Arm, Lower Arm
Left Arm Actuators: Shoulder, Upper Arm, Lower Arm

Weapons
and Ammo              Location  Critical   Heat    Tonnage
Double Heat Sink         LL        2        -       1.0   
2 Double Heat Sink       RT        4        -       2.0   
LRM 20 Ammo (12)         RT        2        -       2.0   
LRM 20                   RT        4        6       5.0   
ER Large Laser           LA        1        12      4.0   
Medium Pulse Laser       LA        1        4       2.0   
2 Double Heat Sink       LA        4        -       2.0   
2 Double Heat Sink       LT        4        -       2.0   
LRM 20 Ammo (12)         LT        2        -       2.0   
LRM 20                   LT        4        6       5.0   
2 ER Small Laser       CT(R)       2        2       1.0   
Double Heat Sink         RL        2        -       1.0   
ER Large Laser           RA        1        12      4.0   
Medium Pulse Laser       RA        1        4       2.0   
2 Double Heat Sink       RA        4        -       2.0   

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Re: Battlemech art edits
« Reply #5 on: 27 October 2022, 03:05:13 »
An MWO Archer with Thumper cannons, from this post.

I swear I'll do something other than Archers.
All right, I couldn't resist...
The Archerhammer reminds me a lot of the Warhammer IIC 2, the one with the LRMs in the torso.  Also feel free to post those over in the Mech Design board, too.
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Re: Battlemech art edits
« Reply #6 on: 27 October 2022, 05:06:10 »
And since a Hunchback was suggested as an artillery mech elsethread, here it is.  I looked at the housing for the HBK's autocannon and the way it's drawn it looks like it's a retractable housing; I ended up drawing it that way with it pulled back to allow the main gun to elevate.  Travel would lower the barrel and close the housing.  The art is from the MUL, with the artillery piece of the Helepolis used for the Thumper.
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Re: Battlemech art edits
« Reply #7 on: 27 October 2022, 18:45:40 »
I won't lie, Kamas. That is some sweet artwork/editing. Seriously nice work.
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Re: Battlemech art edits
« Reply #8 on: 27 October 2022, 23:56:02 »
Thank you, I am mostly pleased with it myself.  I'll have to come up with more somehow.

Meanwhile, a unit patch for Wieczorek's Archers, an all-Archer mercenary unit working for the Lyrans.  Where they come from is being worked out over in Non-Canon Units.
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Re: Battlemech art edits
« Reply #9 on: 28 October 2022, 19:16:47 »
I love that Thumper Hunchback!  I had done a "Thumpback" a while ago, and would be honored if you cross-posted that art there...  :)

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Re: Battlemech art edits
« Reply #10 on: 28 October 2022, 23:08:51 »
I love that Thumper Hunchback!  I had done a "Thumpback" a while ago, and would be honored if you cross-posted that art there...  :)
Done, good sir.  Maybe I'll do an MWO version as well, though I'll have to find something suitable to use as a Thumper.  For the MWO Archer, I used a Thor's gun...I suppose I could sink the same thing into the housing of an MWO HBK's big torso box.
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Re: Battlemech art edits
« Reply #11 on: 29 October 2022, 04:13:05 »
Thank you, kind sir!  :thumbsup:

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Re: Battlemech art edits
« Reply #12 on: 29 October 2022, 05:11:28 »
A Thunderbolt I did a while ago, I'll post stats for it in the Mech Designs forum.
« Last Edit: 29 October 2022, 05:53:58 by ANS Kamas P81 »
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Re: Battlemech art edits
« Reply #13 on: 30 October 2022, 22:01:05 »
I found a giant version of the MWO Archer concept art and it was all one color, so that made photoshopping it into the command 'Mech for Wieczorek's Archers.  Knight One, the Wehrwolf, an ARC-2S with LRM15s in the upper shoulders and SRM-4s in the low front.  I also kept the forward facing CT lasers; this is a 'Mech that leads a unit and is always going to have a buddy to fire on anything that gets behind it.  Maybe that means the ARC-2S can cook itself with a short range barrage, but I can live with that in 3025 play.  Overall color for the unit is Star League green, Wieczorek is a fangirl of the old Star League and is proud of her antique 'Mechs.

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Re: Battlemech art edits
« Reply #14 on: 31 October 2022, 03:21:36 »
That looks great!  :thumbsup:

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Re: Battlemech art edits
« Reply #15 on: 11 November 2022, 03:10:58 »
wonder how the archer would look with marauder arms? 
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« Reply #16 on: 11 November 2022, 03:59:59 »
wonder how the archer would look with marauder arms?
Better than the Archerhammer does, that's for darn sure.
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« Reply #17 on: 11 November 2022, 07:30:54 »
Those new Marauder arms look SO much better than the old...  8)

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« Reply #18 on: 11 November 2022, 16:43:36 »
makes ya wonder if the Archer could have been used as the text bed by the yotes scientists on making the Omni Mech project.   


quick question, in the old clan wolf sourcebook is a pic of what looks to be a battlemaster with marauder arms,  can you make that?
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« Reply #19 on: 14 November 2022, 04:09:23 »
makes ya wonder if the Archer could have been used as the text bed by the yotes scientists on making the Omni Mech project.   

They certainly had enough of them.

quick question, in the old clan wolf sourcebook is a pic of what looks to be a battlemaster with marauder arms,  can you make that?

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« Reply #20 on: 14 November 2022, 04:26:30 »
The scaling on the arms for the Archer was perfect... not so much for the Battlemaster, but it IS hilarious!  :D

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Re: Battlemech art edits
« Reply #21 on: 14 November 2022, 05:03:20 »
It's a Battlemaster with aspirations to be a King Crab!

I probably should have shrunk them down, but then the linework to hook the arms together would have been a pain in the rear. 
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Re: Battlemech art edits
« Reply #22 on: 14 November 2022, 07:29:41 »
Great work ANS Kamas P81, how are you doing this? I usually use MS Paint.  This so great work!
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« Reply #23 on: 14 November 2022, 08:24:13 »
Thank you!  I use an older version of Gimp, myself, because the layers and transparency are things you can't get in MSPaint.
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« Reply #24 on: 14 November 2022, 13:59:43 »
I have dabbled, found the control/menus disappeared. I barely figured it out.  :P
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Re: Battlemech art edits
« Reply #25 on: 14 November 2022, 16:45:58 »
i am sorry,  i went back and looked through the books and the pic i was thinking of was in the Crusader Clans sourcebook pg 22,  the pic is a summoner firing on what looks like a warhammer with the hexagonal weapons pods.   my apologies.
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Re: Battlemech art edits
« Reply #26 on: 14 November 2022, 18:37:20 »
Gimp is a good program!  :thumbsup: