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Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
« Reply #30 on: 14 August 2015, 17:18:28 »
Oh, the updated House Hiritsu emblem is great!

Do you mind if i make an avatar of it for myself?

EDIT Nope, that didn't work out at all... Sigh, another program then...
EDIT2 Ah, much better. So, this ok?
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Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
« Reply #31 on: 15 August 2015, 06:59:09 »
Oh, the updated House Hiritsu emblem is great!

Do you mind if i make an avatar of it for myself?

EDIT Nope, that didn't work out at all... Sigh, another program then...
EDIT2 Ah, much better. So, this ok?

I am honoured that you chose it as avatar! Everyone is invited to do so, or use it for signatures (or ask me to make one).
Downsizing an image can be painfull, but I think the board allows a slightly bigger avatar (150 width iirc) if that helps.


And Thirdly, don't be shy of the Confederation either!  They're almost as much a cultural hodge podge as the FWL.  Xin Sheng is a facade...

I may say that Hayden has done a lot of excellent DCMS and CCAF unit insignia (and many more), which can be found on DA.
Nevertheless, I have earmarked a few CCAF commands for my future works.

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Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
« Reply #32 on: 15 August 2015, 07:56:41 »
Up to 150? Damn, i looked at the previous one i had, determined its width was 110 and resized the image appropriately. Oh, well, i may or may not make another version.

My first attempt went badly because IrfanView decided to add a black background... Fortunately Paint.net kept it transparent.
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Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
« Reply #33 on: 15 August 2015, 08:06:15 »
Yes, .png format adds the transparency issue and some programs can't handle it.

I have actually seen avatars up to 160px, but here is one for you at 150:  :)
http://i.imgur.com/IToRNuH.png
I hope it is ok... sometimes resizing is a bit difficult.

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Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
« Reply #34 on: 22 August 2015, 07:27:48 »
Peace of Blake be with you.

This update is about the Word of Blake Militia and its allies.
As I said before, I am not a fan of the blue&red colour combination, which is also used by the hidden divisions of the WoBM (11-39). Both colours are very strong and thus don't go well together. I tried, but was not really satisfied with the results. So I tried something else and reversed the ComGuards scheme using black as base colour instead of white. I added red highlights (since black could no longer be used for highlights) and I think it looks ... powerful.
And... I have always been annoyed by the spelling mistake in the insignia of the 37th Division, which was another motivation for me.  ;)


Long Story short, here they are:


5th Division




9th Division




11th Division

    ...   


12th Division

    ...   


16th Division

    ...   


25th Division




37th Division

    ...   



Mercs


Waco Rangers




Swan's Cavaliers

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Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
« Reply #35 on: 22 August 2015, 09:17:07 »
I like the WoB color scheme you came up with. It is sort of Wolverine inspired and since the Blood are such a big part of their story, why not.

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Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
« Reply #36 on: 22 August 2015, 10:09:30 »
Thank you! To be fair, the colour scheme was also inspired by the canonic colour scheme of the 9th Division, which I like. But Wolverine hints are very cool, too, since I like them a lot.

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Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
« Reply #37 on: 27 August 2015, 17:36:50 »
1000 clicks! And I did only 900 of them  ;D


Anyway, I did some quite new stuff this time: Corporate Security Forces, from Commonwealth and Combine companies. To my knowledge they have not been given insignia, and the company logo was used. But I thought they deserve their own insignia.
Furthermore, some Rasalhague stuff.

Feedback, especially on the corporate forces, is welcome!








Corporate Security Forces


Interpretation: Almost all larger arms producing companies employ a military grade security unit, usually equipped with the products of the company. It is not know if they have any insignia, but I made some. The basic idea is to use the company logo in combination with military and industrial symbols.


Defiance Self-Protection Force (since 3065)



Interpretation: the base is of course the DefHes logo; the sword in front of a cogwheel symbolizes the defence of the factories; the unit was once called "the catamounts", so this animal had to be included; the skull is from the Gray Death Legion. The GDL is honoured for its valiant efforts protecting the DI works against the Skye separatists, and perhaps some of surviving GDL/Brewer’s Legion members joined the DSPF. So it makes sense to include their insignia. The overall white and red colour scheme is derived from the paint scheme of the DSPF mechs.


Brewer’s Legion



Interpretation: using the Brewer family coat of arms and the GDL logo seemed the best idea for this unit


Coventry Metal Works Self-Protection Force



Interpretation: the combination of cogwheel and swords symbolizes the defence of the factories. Since the CMW logo is round, I put the cogwheel around it, and I think it looks good.


Arc-Royal Mech Works Self-Protection Force



Interpretation: emphasizing the strong regional ties of the ARMW, the SPF insignia is based on the colours of the Arc-Royal coat of arms, even including the chalice. Again, swords and cogwheel symbolize the defence of the factories.


Norse Storm Technologies Self-Protection Force



Interpretation: based on the colour scheme of the company logo I added its dominant lightning bolts to the insignia of the SFP, which also features the sword and cogwheel combination. 


Luthien Armor Works Self-Protection Force



Interpretation: being a Japanese-inspired culture, I refrained from using western imagery like broadswords and cogwheel. However I used the Katana and Wakizashi combination to symbolize the military mission of the SPF.


BBP Self-Protection Force



Interpretation: again I used a Katana, but this time carried by an eagle (irl the insignia of the 10th Japanese Army Division) to symbolize the aero-space fighters and Dropships produced by BBP.



Free Rasalhague Republic

KungsArmé


First Tyr



Changes: the Viking helmet is now a historically more accurate helmet, loosely inspired by the Gjermundbu helmet. Seriously, horns?


Third Drakøns




Fourth Drakøns



Interpretation: the insignia of the unit is not known, but I figured the Nordic valknut would be a good symbol.


Third Hussars




Fourth Kavalleri

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Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
« Reply #38 on: 31 August 2015, 20:06:42 »
A little Davion today, the Periphery March Guards. I used the base image as shown in the FM:3145 and modified it according to the descriptions given in the text. In case of the 4th, I came up with an idea as there was no description. The colours are guesswork. If they are wrong, please tell me.




Periphery March Guards Brigade

First Periphery March Guards




Second Periphery March Guards




Fourth Periphery March Guards



Interpretation: the insignia is not described; from the name "Rhine" however I deduced river imagery.


Fifth Periphery March Guards

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Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
« Reply #39 on: 01 September 2015, 07:06:25 »
Nicely done, very clean professional designs
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Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
« Reply #40 on: 04 September 2015, 08:49:36 »
Thank you! I should point out, though, that the original brigade emblem is excellent already. I merely colourized it, simplified it, and added unit specific details.


Anyway, next batch: CapCon and FedSuns.



Robinson Brigade

1st Robinson Rangers




2nd Robinson Rangers




3rd Robinson Rangers




1st Robinson Strikers




4th Robinson Strikers




5th Robinson Strikers







Sian Dragoons

3rd Sian Dragoons




9th Sian Dragoons




11th Sian Dragoons





Capellan Defense Force

1st Capellan Defense Force




7th Capellan Defense Force





Capellan Chargers

4th Capellan Chargers





Victoria Rangers

5th Victoria Rangers


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Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
« Reply #41 on: 11 September 2015, 11:54:01 »
Drank a Talisker, so it was time for the Skye Rangers.
Also some others.


7th New Samarkand Regulars





1st Somerset Strikers /// Steiner Strikers

...



4th Skye Rangers



Changes: Rather than a modern, accurate image of Britain, I chose the oldest known map of Britain made by Ptolemy.


10th Skye Rangers

...

Interpretation: I do not know if there is a canon logo, so I chose the St. Andrew's Cross in honour of the nickname (The Black Watch) and because it looks like a Roman 10.


17th Skye Rangers




4th Skye Guards





3rd Amaris Legionnaires





Blackstone Highlanders


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Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
« Reply #42 on: 03 November 2015, 10:34:47 »
Cool work!

Most i like your Lyran Guards

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Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
« Reply #43 on: 03 November 2015, 15:18:33 »
Really great job.

For the 4th Robinson Strikers, I think the tusks and the legs should be filled with only one colour.
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Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
« Reply #44 on: 04 November 2015, 15:22:25 »
Quote
Really great job.

For the 4th Robinson Strikers, I think the tusks and the legs should be filled with only one colour.

Yes Flieger you should try it. I wanna know what looks better and please post it than in comparison


Flieger nice idea to bud the insignia of the 3rd Sian Dragoons inside the rectabgle of mother formation  O0 ;D
so is it better to seen and no so big i had paint the entire weapon on the mech leg
Maybe you repaint the blade it looks so simply you sure can paint it better

Good work Flieger (Gute Arbeit wirklich)  [cheers]

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Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
« Reply #45 on: 06 November 2015, 07:00:24 »
Thank you, gentlemen! Very nice and encouraging.  :)

I have plans to revisit this thread, and although I cannot say "when" (busy at work atm), I will keep you input in mind. I see what you mean about the 4th Robinson Strikers, and perhaps your suggestion works better indeed. (When creating the insignia, I sometimes have a tunnel vision and get stuck...). Regarding the 3rd Sian Dragoons... it is actually the colour that bothers me the most. Perhaps I'll find another shade of green to work with. Sure, I also could do a more fancy version of the blade.  ;)

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« Reply #46 on: 08 November 2015, 16:56:51 »
Don't forget to set the link for the new topic here   ;)

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Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
« Reply #47 on: 08 November 2015, 23:10:28 »
Impressive....  O0

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Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
« Reply #48 on: 09 December 2015, 23:55:56 »
These look great Flieger! Love the new take on the Saucy Sixth and the variations on the 11th Lyran Guard.  8)

Just FYI: traditionally, if there is a single charge of an object or animal and its facing the left side of the shield (that is, its facing to the right from the viewers standpoint) it usually denotes bastardy or cowardice. That's why you almost always see them facing to the viewers left. Its not followed much in corporate circles, but western militaries still follow the practice.

Of course, by the 31st Century none of this may even matter.  ;)
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Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
« Reply #49 on: 14 December 2015, 11:53:00 »
Thanks a lot.

Regarding the facing of the charge... Good point! I usually stick to the canon source image, which sometimes do not follow tradition, but I am aware of the issue (being a historian and having served myself), hence I try to keep that tradition.

Btw., between Christmas and New Year I plan and hope to add&rework a bit. I will surely add the 101st Tharkad Lancers to the mix. (from the German-only novel Sturm auf Arc-Royal).

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« Reply #50 on: 17 January 2016, 14:03:53 »
So, a small update (using the new HBS house insignia  O0); some new insignia, some reworks; featuring Liao, Steiner, Davion, and Amaris insignia:


101st Tharkad Lancers



Interpretation: The Tharkad Lancers are a unit featured in the German novel "Sturm auf Arc-Royal" (see my review here). They are said to have a silver knight on a white horse as insignia, however I added some elements from the flag of Tharkad and the number 101.


3rd Royal Guards




LIC




Diplomatic Guard





4th Robinson Strikers


(slightly tweaked according to suggestion; thanks!)


Maskirovka (pre Xin-Sheng)




Maskirovka Cappelan Operations Branch





Amaris Liberation Army 1


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Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
« Reply #51 on: 20 January 2016, 16:01:48 »
A new series, this time it is all about one insignia: the Royal Guards Brigade insignia.
 
So why is it a series? Well, I did not like the original brigade’s insignia much; it does make sense and it is rather well executed by the artists, but I think a crown is relatively boring. Looking for alternatives I found that the Steiner fist was already in use by the Fourth Royal Guards, so I could not use it.

Then I thought about using the Archon's (first) name. In my opinion it makes some sense, as the Guards were loyal to the person of the Archon rather than the position as could be seen in the Brewer-coup and other occasions. Of course, a name itself offers rather limited options to visually represent them, too.
Yet, one option was interesting: the medieval monogram style, used e.g. by Theoderic the Great, Charlemagne or Otto the Great. Especially the last with its simplicity was what I liked. So I chose this for my series. My system is always to use four letters and start with the first letter, while generally preferring to show consonants if possible.

I am interested in opinions on improving the idea, or simply better new ideas for an alternate Brigade sigil.
 


Here is my try:



Trillian

TRLN


Adam

ADAM


Peter

PTER
 

Katrina (and Katherine for that matter – the monogram would be the same, even if she had continued to use her birth name)

KTRN

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Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
« Reply #52 on: 28 January 2016, 20:14:48 »
my wife, who embroiders unit patches as a hobby, has been drooling over your work.
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Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
« Reply #53 on: 30 January 2016, 11:50:31 »
Thanks! Such a compliment means a lot to me!  :)

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Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
« Reply #54 on: 31 January 2016, 22:21:40 »
Couple of Requests 

Could we get both a Generic Amaris Dragoons logo and some numbered ones?

Wife would love to see some Jade Falcon logos with flat colors, and a Watch Insignia.
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Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
« Reply #55 on: 03 February 2016, 08:59:31 »
No problem, I can do the Dragoons, although I would mostly colourize the existing canon insignia, which I think is pretty close to my style already. If you have any special ideas for the insignia, I would like to hear them.

And sorry, I don't do the Clans. But regarding the Jade Falcons, Bren has created some excellent artwork. I really like his style:
http://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=49607.0


Well, so I have the Amaris Dragoons in the pipeline, and also some ComStar Divisions (there are still a lot to do!).

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Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
« Reply #56 on: 04 February 2016, 10:33:43 »
So, a new update with the promised Amaris Dragoons and a few ComStar divisions.

I made two versions of the Dragoons; one based on red, one based on black. Both use Roman numerals which I think look really interesting, especially the higher numbers. The Brigade is represented by a star, which I liked better than just making the shark larger. But let us start with the ComGuards:




282nd Division



Interpretation: no canon insignia is known, but being a pre-schism formation the use of Blake's book makes sense imo. The unit fought bravely on Tukayyid, and was destroyed by the Wolfspiders


214th Division




198th Division




12th Division



Interpretation: many ComStar divisions changed nickname and insignia after Tukayyid; the 12th is no exception. This represents the insignia before the battle, based on its name "Pure Waveforms"



Amaris Dragoons Brigade

...


1st Amaris Dragoons

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4th Amaris Dragoons

...


99th Amaris Dragoons

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141st Amaris Dragoons

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832nd Amaris Dragoons

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Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
« Reply #57 on: 04 February 2016, 11:16:15 »
DCCCXXXII is 832, not 382.  You'll be wanting CCCLXXXII for those badges.

But I love your work and don't want to simply say critical things about it.   

So...

And sorry, I don't do the Clans.

I have such a man crush on you for that.

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Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
« Reply #58 on: 04 February 2016, 11:18:43 »
Ah, a little typo: it is supposed to be the 832nd Dragoons:
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/832nd_Amaris_Dragoons
Thanks for the note, will change that soon enough.

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Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
« Reply #59 on: 05 February 2016, 16:10:40 »
I love these, but isn't the roman numeral for 4 IV? I have seen IIII before, but thought it was in error.
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