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Re: 'Mech of the Week MEGA ARTICLE: BNC-** Banshee
« Reply #60 on: 26 January 2022, 11:32:10 »
Yes, it's a WYSIWYG upgrade to the 3S. The 5S had the same philosophy but the weapon placement and reliance on a IS XL made a bigger difference than you would think.

Correct, but remember that only the ER Lasers (4 medium, 2 small) are Clan Spec weaponry on the 12S.  The rest is IS tech:  Gauss Rifle, 2 ER PPCs, and the SRM 6.  It's like they wanted to avoid going full munchkin, but went just far enough with the Clan Engine and Lasers for us to sit up and take notice that damn, this is a monster.

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Re: 'Mech of the Week MEGA ARTICLE: BNC-** Banshee
« Reply #61 on: 26 January 2022, 11:57:56 »
I always thought the term Munchkin was stupid. If you have the gun, you are going to use it. Besides, it's hard to do anything else with the Banshee at this point without bumping up the tech level.
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Re: 'Mech of the Week MEGA ARTICLE: BNC-** Banshee
« Reply #62 on: 26 January 2022, 12:11:46 »
I always thought the term Munchkin was stupid. If you have the gun, you are going to use it. Besides, it's hard to do anything else with the Banshee at this point without bumping up the tech level.

Yep, just saying that it is like a 3/4 Clan tech Banshee, unlike the Lyrans new Crusader, which looks to be a Clan Machine (maybe not the structure/armor).

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Re: 'Mech of the Week MEGA ARTICLE: BNC-** Banshee
« Reply #63 on: 26 January 2022, 15:22:53 »
It's because Inner Sphere factions were only able to produce Clantech in the Rec Guides that they've been shown to produce in other sources.  Defiance Industries has thus far only been shown producing Clantech lasers, missiles, and XL engines.  They haven't been shown producing Clantech PPCs or Gauss Rifles yet.
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Re: 'Mech of the Week MEGA ARTICLE: BNC-** Banshee
« Reply #64 on: 27 January 2022, 12:12:36 »
Besides, it's hard to do anything else with the Banshee at this point without bumping up the tech level.
/cough,  SFE-285 !!
What can I say, I just really want a SFE Banshee moving 3/5 that is beyond Intro tech level.
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Re: 'Mech of the Week MEGA ARTICLE: BNC-** Banshee
« Reply #65 on: 27 January 2022, 13:31:30 »
/cough,  SFE-285 !!
What can I say, I just really want a SFE Banshee moving 3/5 that is beyond Intro tech level.

... Yeah, I have a simple upgrade to the 3S but I'm guessing it's too simple for many as it would be competing with so many other 3/5 designs.
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Re: 'Mech of the Week MEGA ARTICLE: BNC-** Banshee
« Reply #66 on: 27 January 2022, 13:42:51 »
... Yeah, I have a simple upgrade to the 3S
Ditto,
I've posted ideas in the design section over the years.
It doesn't need a lot of "new" tech.
I don't think I've ever used anything past 3050/C3 in most of them.
The 3S lends itself to sticking w/ the basics but boosting the range/reach of the big 3 guns.
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Re: 'Mech of the Week MEGA ARTICLE: BNC-** Banshee
« Reply #67 on: 27 January 2022, 14:18:34 »
I won't be posting mine in Fan Designs only because it's too simple, upgrading to DHS does allot. Staying on topic and keeping away from fan designs, the 12S does allot more that many GMs wouldn't allow without a official RS.

The 12S gives us the firepower of the 3S, upgrades it while hardly compromising any survivability for speed (if you loos both side torso on this mech...how? ) The 5S does a great job but that IS XL can be a problem (yes, I'm talking from personal experiences. Always load Infernos) The 6S, 7S and 9S are decent compromises between the 3S and 5S (the Wobbie 8S isn't to be ignored, just a different design direction going 100% AX Murder)

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Re: 'Mech of the Week MEGA ARTICLE: BNC-** Banshee
« Reply #68 on: 27 January 2022, 14:42:58 »
... Yeah, I have a simple upgrade to the 3S but I'm guessing it's too simple for many as it would be competing with so many other 3/5 designs.

The 3S with an LB 10-X swap and CASE is probably better than any IS assault in TRO3050 except maybe the 5S.

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Re: 'Mech of the Week MEGA ARTICLE: BNC-** Banshee
« Reply #69 on: 27 January 2022, 15:01:14 »
The 3S with an LB 10-X swap and CASE is probably better than any IS assault in TRO3050 except maybe the 5S.

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Re: 'Mech of the Week MEGA ARTICLE: BNC-** Banshee
« Reply #70 on: 27 January 2022, 17:05:04 »
I remember trying to build a hypothetical 4S and running into the "problem" of a straight upgrade of the 3S simply being too good compared to the 5S.  Though I have to wonder if we're ever going to see a Banshee 10S and 11S at any point?
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Re: 'Mech of the Week MEGA ARTICLE: BNC-** Banshee
« Reply #71 on: 27 January 2022, 17:11:11 »
I remember trying to build a hypothetical 4S and running into the "problem" of a straight upgrade of the 3S simply being too good compared to the 5S.  Though I have to wonder if we're ever going to see a Banshee 10S and 11S at any point?

Yeah, but keeping the SFE & skipping Endo lets you run it as a "field refit" instead of a factory production model.
There is a benefit of having 4/6 to be sure.
I just would rather keep my top end assaults Slow & Durable
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Re: 'Mech of the Week MEGA ARTICLE: BNC-** Banshee
« Reply #72 on: 27 January 2022, 17:42:41 »
That's my point: simply upgrading the heatsinks and weapons and adding CASE makes for a machine that's significantly better than the 5S in everything but speed, and the serious durability boost by having a standard engine as well as a few extra tons to devote to armor really negates that.
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Re: 'Mech of the Week MEGA ARTICLE: BNC-** Banshee
« Reply #73 on: 28 January 2022, 11:09:23 »
Getting it back up to 4/6 seems to have been one of the main goals of the 5S. Making it 3/5 may arguably make for a better mech, but if you don’t want a Warhawk kiting you 4/6 is what you need.

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Re: 'Mech of the Week MEGA ARTICLE: BNC-** Banshee
« Reply #74 on: 29 January 2022, 10:39:23 »
a Warhawk kiting you
Too funny an image.

That's right up there with someone's sig line that was something like "Elmo will flank with Devastator & Stalker"
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Re: 'Mech of the Week MEGA ARTICLE: BNC-** Banshee
« Reply #75 on: 29 January 2022, 21:29:03 »
That's right up there with someone's sig line that was something like "Elmo will flank with Devastator & Stalker"


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