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Record Sheets: Outer Reaches Rebellion
« on: 06 April 2021, 03:08:16 »
Another thing I'm playing around with, a book of record sheets suitable for use during the ground battles of the Outer Reaches Rebellion.

Version one: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1KEoAMS75LJa6eWiilu4cIdgTmuBoXHst/view?usp=sharing
Version two: https://drive.google.com/file/d/11uk3SM-71RyIexjvgqok2fQ-1vLK19Iu/view?usp=sharing

I intend to expand it in the future with brief writeups of the various types of units represented, why there are so many different tanks, and probably some special rules for the setting (I'm thinking primitive air to air missiles?).

So more to come... at some point.
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Re: Record Sheets: Outer Reaches Rebellion
« Reply #1 on: 06 April 2021, 16:03:53 »
fun. with the torrent bomber going back to 2097, it's more plausible to fill in the primordial era of BTU tech. would be entertaining to play out a game where rifle canons are the main gun for most armor.

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Re: Record Sheets: Outer Reaches Rebellion
« Reply #2 on: 11 April 2021, 19:55:18 »
These will have a home in my AUverse, Azeroth.

This, TRO:1945 and a few other pieces...

Thanks Liam!

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Re: Record Sheets: Outer Reaches Rebellion
« Reply #3 on: 13 April 2021, 19:32:47 »
I made an updated version with additional tweeks and units, located here.

In this version I converted a lot of the smaller vehicles to electric power rather than ICE, as I figured that would be a more useful type on multiple worlds which might have varying access to hydrocarbons. I also threw in a portable generator unit, essentially a trailer with a fission reactor.

In order to make the armored chassis modification useful, I also limited units without the trait to BAR 5 armor. This was actually beneficial in most cases.

I also heavily revised the F-99 fighter, turning it into a heavy ground attack plane. The Eurostar in turn got a minor tech and armor boost to replace it as the front line dogfighter.

Also some gun trailers, mortar infantry, and an associated version of the Pacifier armored car.
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Re: Record Sheets: Outer Reaches Rebellion
« Reply #4 on: 14 April 2021, 16:50:34 »
Just did a quick bugfix, removing the truck trailer portable generator and replacing it with a larger version based on the small trailer.

This is because the minimum mass of a fission reactor is supposed to be five tons, and thus the prior version was illegal.
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Re: Record Sheets: Outer Reaches Rebellion
« Reply #5 on: 28 April 2021, 17:04:20 »
Updated to version 3 which brings the units in the book to what I consider their final form.

You can download this version here.

Writing the overview is... I wanna say two thirds done, so this update is still just the record sheets themselves.
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Re: Record Sheets: Outer Reaches Rebellion
« Reply #6 on: 28 April 2021, 17:46:04 »
Good stuff. Looking forward to the overview.

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Re: Record Sheets: Outer Reaches Rebellion
« Reply #7 on: 28 April 2021, 20:44:44 »
Looks like a bunch of fun little vehicles that could easily be seen on a backwater Periphery planet.  They try to use the vehicles to fight off pirates, where the vehicles are being piloted by the best people thy can find, while the pirates are clumsy, ill-disciplined, and greedy, but the pirate Mech is well-armed and armored compared to the vehicles.

Definitely a keeper

One modification I would want is to separate the infantry units by type.  One idea might be the following::
p70 - 3 platoons of Colonial Security, and a blank spot at the bottom
p71 - the Elite anti-Infantry platoons (3 types)
p72 - Elite Field Gun units (2 types)
p73 - Flamethrower infantry (4 types)
p74 - Grenadier infantry (4 types)
p75 - Laser Rifle Squad (4 types)
p76 - Machine Gun Platoon (4 types)
p77 - Rifle Platoon (4 types)
p78 - Primitive Flamethrower platoon (3 types)
p79 - Primitive Grenadier Platoon (3 types)
p80 - Primitive Heavy Field Gun Battery (2 types) & Primitive Light Field Gun Battery (2 types)
p81 - Primitive Machine Gun Platoon (3 types) & Primitive Marksman Squad (1 type)
p82 - Primitive Medium Field Gun Battery (2 types) & Primitive Missile Platoon (2 types)
p83 - Primitive Mortar Platoon (3 types) & Primitive Paratrooper Platoon (1 types)
p84 - Primitive Recoillesss Rifle Platoon (3 types)
p85 - Primitive Rifle Platoon (3 types)
p86 - Rebel Arsonists (3 types)
p87 - Rebel Marksmen Platoon (3 types)
p88 - Rebel Patriots (3 types)
p89 - Rebel Vandals (3 types)
p90 - Rebel Volunteers (3 types)
p91 - Riot Control Platoon (3 types) & Rioters (1 type)

Wherever there are two types on a page, adding another type would cause a split (i.e. if you added wheeled vehicle Rioters, then both the Foot and Wheeled Rioters would be put on their own page)

One thing that is interesting is on page 71 in the original link.  The Elite Anti-Infantry platoon can do 11 pts of damage and has a range of zero, yet the Field Gun infantry can do 12 pts of damage and has a range of 3 (comparing the mechanized versions of each).  That means the Field Gun infantry could engage the Anti-Infantry unit from beyond the A-I unit's range, ignoring the 18 hex range of the Field Guns themselves.  True the A-I platoon is less than a quarter the BV and half the weight of the Primitive Field Gun platoon (comparing the mechanized version of each), but shouldn't an AI platoon have better AI damage than a Field Gun platoon?  Or a higher Damage Divisor so they can withstand incoming fire better?
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Re: Record Sheets: Outer Reaches Rebellion
« Reply #8 on: 29 April 2021, 05:34:56 »
The anti-infantry platoons are equipped with fancy high tech needler guns, while the field gun troops get boring old standard issue (modern) assault rifles.

So it's a case of the fancy new weapon not living up to the hype. In fact the only reason the platoon isn't worse than it already is is that I also gave each squad a grenade launcher.

Needle guns are just... awful weapons to give your troops. Their only saving grace is that they're cheap.

As for reorganizing how the infantry are done, I'll look into it, but no promises.
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Re: Record Sheets: Outer Reaches Rebellion
« Reply #9 on: 29 April 2021, 07:21:59 »
The anti-infantry platoons are equipped with fancy high tech needler guns, while the field gun troops get boring old standard issue (modern) assault rifles.

So it's a case of the fancy new weapon not living up to the hype. In fact the only reason the platoon isn't worse than it already is is that I also gave each squad a grenade launcher.

Needle guns are just... awful weapons to give your troops. Their only saving grace is that they're cheap.

As for reorganizing how the infantry are done, I'll look into it, but no promises.

That damage rating makes incredible sense, thank you for clarifying.  I'm sure you're also imagining the potential of looking over the weapons to compare their effectiveness to see what should be assigned.  Who knows, those Needle Rifles may go to Rebel hands for the next book.  Lots of cheap Rebels, with lots of cheap weapons.  Time to make a spreadsheet with the various infantry weapons' range, damage, and BV/Cost so you can see which ones meet various criteria.  Excel Table Filter time?  Sort by decreasing range to figure out which weapons are for the Marksmen, use the Lambda function to make your own equations as needed to compare cost/benefit, and you can make sure the military has the more expensive/powerful equipment, while the Rebels tend to have the cheaper stuff (and wind up being deployed in larger numbers).


For the infantry organization, I'll admit it is a preference of mine where similar types are on as few pages as possible.  This way if you have to print the pages for something, you print the minimum number of pages needed.

For example, the Tech Manual starting on p311 has 3 pages devoted to calculating the Aerospace BV, and the part of p313 is a total of 3 paragraphs.  Moving the part of page 311 to start on page 312 would leave a blank spot (that could be filled by a nice graphic), while pages 312 and 313 would have all the Aerospace BV calculation instructions.  This would be easy to do for a PDF, but would make the book 1 page longer physically.

As a counter, imagine the 'fun' if Tech Manual page 318 had been the start of the Conventional Infantry Weapons BV Table, with the Aerospace Weapons and Equipment BV table at the bottom of page 319. What would be the reaction to seeing that?

 

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