Recovery Vehicles

[warhammer74]

I know there are two wheeled recovery vehicles for battlemechs plus paramour and weyland repair vehicles.  Has any one designed one for tracks and other military vehicles.   Want to design something similar to m88 or m578 recovery vehicles th us army has.   Wanted to know if someone has already or not thanks.   Going to use them in an SLDF unit. Pre succession war if possible.   Not sure if using support vehicle rules or combat vehicle tracked rules.

[AlphaMirage]

You should search the sub-forums to this one. I think support/combat works either way not certain you would get any advantage besides cost.

[Daryk]

Lift Hoists exist.  This shouldn't be a hard search... 

[2ndAcr]

 Buffel VII, has lift hoists. That is the closest to an M88 I can find that is canon. Has lift hoists, even says was used for hauling disabled vehicles.

[Col Toda]

In a 3025 game I designed 100 ton fully Amphibious combat vehicle with a 400 fuel cell engine and 2 lift hoists as a proof of concept mech recovery vehicle.  Drives 4/6 to salvage site. Spends 3 turns dumping the mechs ammo picks it up ( up to 100 tons ) and leaves at 2/3  . It is only Advanced not experimental tech .  The idea was for GM to market a superfast mech recovery vehicle which shows up pick it up and drives off with what is left of the mech or vehicle and proper salvage happens ( and the huge time involved )  at the Drop Ship . The fluff text I attached  price was high for mearly a military convenience so house units did not buy it ⁷ :  the fuel cost was high for mercenaries but if they upgraded all vehicles with fuel cells it became logistically sound so it was rare .

VERY Popular with banks and finance companies as they didn't need to hack security to pilot a repossessed mech or vehicle.  Just pick it up and leave with it . The real nice aspect of it is that it can carry the salvage over a river or lake easy . Custom limited edition job .

Not canon but absolutely no reason anyone with contacts  to GM or other major  vehicle vendor to produce as a limited edition series recovery vehicle . The market is small but definitely there .

Absolutely no reason it wouldn't be doable in Any Era . Even during the Terran Alliance  . Did it with Solaris Skunkworks but should be doable with any well written software.

[Daryk]

If you want fast hover recovery, I might recommend the below... 

Yes, four lift hoists let you carry 200% of your tonnage (Tech Manual, page 245) for a mere -1 Cruise MP (Total Warfare, page 137).  Enjoy recovering your downed Atlas 'mechs at 8/12... 

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Hover Recovery HVR

Mass: 50 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Motive Type: Hovercraft
Rules Level: Experimental Tech
Era: Succession Wars
Tech Rating/Era Availability: D/X-C-C-B
Production Year: 0
Dry Cost: 1,368,333 C-Bills
Total Cost: 1,368,333 C-Bills
Battle Value: 338

Power Plant:  215 I.C.E.
Cruise Speed: 97.2 km/h
Flanking Speed: 151.2 km/h
Armor:  Standard Armor
Armament:
    None
Manufacturer:
    Primary Factory:
Communications System:
Targeting and Tracking System:

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Standard                      20 points                5.00
Engine:             I.C.E. Engine                215                      19.00
    Cruise MP:  9
    Flank MP:   14
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             0                         0.00
Control Equipment:                                                         2.50
Lift Equipment:                                                            5.00
Armor:              Standard Armor               AV - 104                  6.50

                                                      Armor     
                                                      Factor     
                                               Front     31       
                                          Left/Right   26/26       
                                                Rear     21       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
4 (R) Lift Hoists                            RR        0         4        12.00

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      3    Points: 3
9h         0       0       0       0      2     0   Structure:  2
Special Abilities: ENE, EE

[Daryk]

For less than half the price, you can get haul an Atlas away at 3/5 on wheels... 

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Cheap Recovery WRV

Mass: 45 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Motive Type: Wheeled
Rules Level: Experimental Tech
Era: Succession Wars
Tech Rating/Era Availability: D/X-C-C-B
Production Year: 0
Dry Cost: 575,750 C-Bills
Total Cost: 575,750 C-Bills
Battle Value: 208

Power Plant:  160 I.C.E.
Cruise Speed: 43.2 km/h
Flanking Speed: 64.8 km/h
Armor:  Standard Armor
Armament:
    None
Manufacturer:
    Primary Factory:
Communications System:
Targeting and Tracking System:

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Standard                      20 points                4.50
Engine:             I.C.E. Engine                160                      12.00
    Cruise MP:  4
    Flank MP:   6
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             0                         0.00
Control Equipment:                                                         2.50
Lift Equipment:                                                            0.00
Armor:              Standard Armor               AV -  64                  4.00

                                                      Armor     
                                                      Factor     
                                               Front     21       
                                          Left/Right   16/16       
                                                Rear     11       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
4 (R) Lift Hoists                            RR        0         4        12.00
Cargo, Standard (10.0 tons)                  BD        0         1        10.00

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      2    Points: 2
4w         0       0       0       0      2     0   Structure:  2
Special Abilities: ENE, EE

[Col Toda]

The post was inquiring about tracked . The wheeled moves using trailer examples of moving extra mass at 1/2 at maximum load the hover at maybe 3/5 . Both have issues with light woods which is why this thread presumably asked for tracked units .  The fuel cell makes less noise in the field be it combat or repossession.  If that is important. 

[Daryk]

Tracked it is:

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Tracked Recovery TRV

Mass: 45 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Motive Type: Tracked
Rules Level: Experimental Tech
Era: Succession Wars
Tech Rating/Era Availability: D/X-E-D-D
Production Year: 0
Dry Cost: 1,334,000 C-Bills
Total Cost: 1,334,000 C-Bills
Battle Value: 295

Power Plant:  180 Fusion Engine
Cruise Speed: 43.2 km/h
Flanking Speed: 64.8 km/h
Armor:  Standard Armor
Armament:
    None
Manufacturer:
    Primary Factory:
Communications System:
Targeting and Tracking System:

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Standard                      20 points                4.50
Engine:             Fusion Engine                180                      10.50
    Cruise MP:  4
    Flank MP:   6
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             10                        0.00
Control Equipment:                                                         2.50
Lift Equipment:                                                            0.00
Armor:              Standard Armor               AV -  88                  5.50

                                                      Armor     
                                                      Factor     
                                               Front     26       
                                          Left/Right   21/21       
                                                Rear     20       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
4 (R) Lift Hoists                            RR        0         4        12.00
Cargo, Standard (10.0 tons)                  BD        0         1        10.00

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      3    Points: 3
4t         0       0       0       0      2     0   Structure:  2
Special Abilities: ENE

[Daryk]

And on the cheap:

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Tracked Recovery (ICE) TRV

Mass: 50 tons
Tech Base: Mixed
Motive Type: Tracked
Rules Level: Experimental Tech
Era: All Eras (non-canon)
Tech Rating/Era Availability: D/C-C-C-B
Production Year: 0
Dry Cost: 890,000 C-Bills
Total Cost: 890,000 C-Bills
Battle Value: 327

Power Plant:  250 I.C.E.
Cruise Speed: 54.0 km/h
Flanking Speed: 86.4 km/h
Armor:  Standard Armor
Armament:
    None
Manufacturer:
    Primary Factory:
Communications System:
Targeting and Tracking System:

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Standard                      20 points                5.00
Engine:             I.C.E. Engine                250                      25.00
    Cruise MP:  5
    Flank MP:   8
Heat Sinks:         (IS) Single Heat Sink        0                         0.00
Control Equipment:                                                         2.50
Lift Equipment:                                                            0.00
Armor:              Standard Armor               AV -  88                  5.50

                                                      Armor     
                                                      Factor     
                                               Front     26       
                                          Left/Right   21/21       
                                                Rear     20       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
4 (R) Lift Hoists                            RR        0         4        12.00

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      3    Points: 3
5t         0       0       0       0      2     0   Structure:  2
Special Abilities: ENE, EE