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Re: Self Configuring Modular Robot.
« Reply #480 on: 27 June 2022, 20:13:43 »
they're ultimately the same thing, and given the capcon's crippled economy post-4th succession war, you can bet that he'd direct people to look into it, since a 30% loss is a major one, and the CapCon has generally weaker anti-corruption protections to begin with so the loss would probabl be even higher for them. so fixing that issue would be a high priority now that he knows it exists. and it would also be an easy sell to Romano, though getting her to do it properly instead of just purging every senior official without investigation might be tricky.
See that the issue you are going to have Romano just running a purge, unless he can balance it properly.  She does have a habit of "Random purge"

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Re: Self Configuring Modular Robot.
« Reply #481 on: 27 June 2022, 22:37:43 »
I see heads rolling rapidly. Lots of them. Liz angry is bad.
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Re: Self Configuring Modular Robot.
« Reply #482 on: 27 June 2022, 22:46:53 »
Rodon has it right: money "sitting" in a bank account is absolutely being used.  Where do you think bank loans come from?  ???

Bank loans only occur if people choose to get one.  If there isn't enough economic activity to start or expand a business with a loan, then a person or business will not get the loan and that money just sits in the bank.  For example, a bank might have a billion dollars to loan out, but if people can't afford the down payment on a new business van or don't expect enough income to make that business van useful/profitable, then they won't get a vehicle loan to buy that van.  (Or if the expected rate of return is less than the loan%, i.e. a company that with the loan could grow at 3% per year, but if the loan is at 4% will not get the loan)

Now what can also occur is cycles of growth and depression, where there is a brief surge in economic activity and people feel comfortable enough to spend, then the economy contracts and people (and companies) with smaller bank accounts have to sell off stuff in order to have a place to live.  The people with the money in the accounts can then buy properties much cheaper than usual.  After buying up the properties and waiting/engineering the next boom cycle, the properties are then rented to people and corporations; putting more money into the oligarch's bank account.  It is publicly labeled as 'Agile' business development, and explained that this way a business only has to rent the equipment when it needs to, instead of having an ongoing capital investment that has to be maintained and might not be used.

The other reason to keep money in a bank account is to just keep score among the wealthiest people:
"I'm so wealthy that I can have ten billion kroner sitting in a bank account doing nothing"
"I have twenty billion"

So this could be another source of the various Mech contracts in the Inner Sphere, an oligarch operating through a cut-out to damage a competitor's business, forcing that competitor to buy hazard insurance through the oligarch's insurance company.

You also have people siphoning money off to make McMansion-equivalents, where their home is very stylish and intricately constructed (aka expensive), and during the next raid a stray LRM blows a hole in part of it.  So the insurance company gets to pay for the replacement wing, and the money gets diverted to non-critical items.  The only benefit this provides is that the inter-system shipping demands keep the market for Dropships and Jumpships strong.

4th rule violation is spoilered here: this is an hour-long video on how corruption can ruin a military, using Russia's military (and recent activities) as examples: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9i47sgi-V4.  I figure some GM's can use this as a fun source of ideas for their home campaigns explaining

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Re: Self Configuring Modular Robot.
« Reply #483 on: 27 June 2022, 23:20:53 »
Bank loans only occur if people choose to get one.  If there isn't enough economic activity to start or expand a business with a loan, then a person or business will not get the loan and that money just sits in the bank.

This is off topic, so I'm going to stop after I point something out.  If your economy isn't expanding, its contracting and you've just said that if no-one was expanding as they wouldn't be able to pay off the loans they would generate by generating profits that out-passed what they could get by loaning out their money.

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Re: Self Configuring Modular Robot.
« Reply #484 on: Today at 02:53:06 »
See that the issue you are going to have Romano just running a purge, unless he can balance it properly.  She does have a habit of "Random purge"

I think Sun-Tzu is smart enough to know he needs to feed his mother the names of the people to be purged, rather than just presenting her the situation to be remedied.

He´s getting quite skilled in playing her insanity to get what he needs. And once his activities start producing positive results, Romano should be more and more inclined to just let him handle the whole thing.
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Re: Self Configuring Modular Robot.
« Reply #485 on: Today at 03:18:51 »
Bank loans only occur if people choose to get one.
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If a bank exists, loans exist.

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Re: Self Configuring Modular Robot.
« Reply #486 on: Today at 05:51:23 »
If a bank exists, loans exist.

More precisely: If loans don´t exist, money won´t just sit around in accounts. Because without loans, the only way for the bank to make money off the deposit is to charge fees. And if your money shrinks while it´s on the account, because of fees, you won´t leave it on the account unless you absolutely have to. You´d be better off stuffing it under the matress or burying it in the garden.
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Re: Self Configuring Modular Robot.
« Reply #487 on: Today at 07:53:59 »
I think Sun-Tzu is smart enough to know he needs to feed his mother the names of the people to be purged, rather than just presenting her the situation to be remedied.

He´s getting quite skilled in playing her insanity to get what he needs. And once his activities start producing positive results, Romano should be more and more inclined to just let him handle the whole thing.

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If a bank exists, loans exist.

I'd see it as loans may exist, but nobody would take advantage of them until the interest rate drops low enough to make them worthwhile.  So banks will have to choose between decent interest rates and nearly nobody getting one of those loans, down to sufficiently low interest rates that are barely worth the bank's time and are difficult for normal people to get access to.  With the low interest rates, that means the bank won't make as much money (bank account interest will always be less than bank loan interest), meaning fewer benefits for employees and investors.

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Re: Self Configuring Modular Robot.
« Reply #488 on: Today at 11:41:30 »
you'll also note i said "beyond a certain point". once your past the low double digit millions per account, things like loans can't keep enough of the funds circulating at any given time and the bulk of the funds just sit doing little more than being bragging rights about how many digits someone has. banking systems and economies can only sustain a certain level of flow. this is one of the reasons why concepts like "trickle down economics" has never worked.

and when you are talking about corruption on the level of 30% of an interstellar GDP, something that would be measured in the three digit trillions and more probably in the quadrillions.. there is going to be a lot of funds just sitting in the bank accounts of a relatively small number of people not generating as much economic activity.

 

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