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Re: Fan XTRO: The Society
« Reply #90 on: 20 November 2020, 19:54:48 »
I understand.  I'm finally making real headway on my own project.  I find if I'm enthusiastic about a project, I can do it, but if I'm ambivalent or not interested, it just stalls.

Well, I look forward to it! 
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Re: Fan XTRO: The Society
« Reply #91 on: 20 November 2020, 22:14:18 »
MainGunnery, are you working on a Field Manual or another XTRO? 
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Re: Fan XTRO: The Society
« Reply #92 on: 21 November 2020, 05:52:41 »
MainGunnery, are you working on a Field Manual or another XTRO?
The additional information can only fit in a Field Manual, also it will be difficult to justify many more new designs.
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Re: Fan XTRO: The Society
« Reply #93 on: 21 November 2020, 07:48:08 »
The additional information can only fit in a Field Manual, also it will be difficult to justify many more new designs.
Cool!  8) new field Manuel!
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Re: Fan XTRO: The Society
« Reply #94 on: 21 November 2020, 11:44:00 »
The additional information can only fit in a Field Manual, also it will be difficult to justify many more new designs.

So more tech heavy than Design heavy? I can dig that.

Will there be some boondoggles included? Not 'needs further development,' or 'limited production,' but outright failures?

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Re: Fan XTRO: The Society
« Reply #95 on: 21 November 2020, 12:20:14 »
So more tech heavy than Design heavy? I can dig that.

Will there be some boondoggles included? Not 'needs further development,' or 'limited production,' but outright failures?
I promise no new function tech, boondoggles or lostech at best.
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Re: Fan XTRO: The Society
« Reply #96 on: 21 November 2020, 12:20:39 »
Something related that I am working on:


[The Next Technological Jump]

   Every great technological jump has occurred after consolidation of knowledge from a period of extensive experimentation. Clan technology was the result of the last technological jump, in which the scattered knowledge of the Star League was brought together allowing for early Clan scientists to quickly make that massive jump. 
   The last century has seen a huge amount of experimentation as various factions tried everything to keep or create an edge. Since our retreat to the Inner Sphere we have been busy with preparing for the next technological jump by gathering, linking and disseminating data. Partly as a result of our actions there have been a growing number of hints that humanity is on the precipice of the next jump.
   The possible rise of the IlClan under the Clan Wolf alliance is the perfect tool with which the Society can trigger the technological jump. But an IlClan under the Mongrel Jade Falcons will trigger a reign of destruction not seen since the worst days of the Succession Wars. As such the Society has dedicated a lot of resources for secretly aiding Clan Wolf, however should our work go to waste then the Society will have no choice but to either retreat from the Inner Sphere or to openly attack the Falcons. The latter option being a means of last resort, as a large scale open attack did not go well for the Society last time it was tried.

Have you considered pushing the IS powers to launch a joint attack?

Or that a cold war suddenly going active might spur the next advance?

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Re: Fan XTRO: The Society
« Reply #97 on: 21 November 2020, 19:14:52 »
I promise no new function tech, boondoggles or lostech at best.
Hmmm: illegal Design, Super Giant Combat BattleMech?
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Re: Fan XTRO: The Society
« Reply #98 on: 22 November 2020, 08:57:14 »
Something related that I am working on:


[The Next Technological Jump]

   Every great technological jump has occurred after consolidation of knowledge from a period of extensive experimentation. Clan technology was the result of the last technological jump, in which the scattered knowledge of the Star League was brought together allowing for early Clan scientists to quickly make that massive jump. 
   The last century has seen a huge amount of experimentation as various factions tried everything to keep or create an edge. Since our retreat to the Inner Sphere we have been busy with preparing for the next technological jump by gathering, linking and disseminating data. Partly as a result of our actions there have been a growing number of hints that humanity is on the precipice of the next jump.
   The possible rise of the IlClan under the Clan Wolf alliance is the perfect tool with which the Society can trigger the technological jump. But an IlClan under the Mongrel Jade Falcons will trigger a reign of destruction not seen since the worst days of the Succession Wars. As such the Society has dedicated a lot of resources for secretly aiding Clan Wolf, however should our work go to waste then the Society will have no choice but to either retreat from the Inner Sphere or to openly attack the Falcons. The latter option being a means of last resort, as a large scale open attack did not go well for the Society last time it was tried.

I'm kind of surprised only the destruction of the Succession Wars was mentioned. Not the Pentagon Wars, the Reavings, or the Jihad.

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Re: Fan XTRO: The Society
« Reply #99 on: 22 November 2020, 09:18:29 »
I'm kind of surprised only the destruction of the Succession Wars was mentioned. Not the Pentagon Wars, the Reavings, or the Jihad.
Well the Pentagon Wars and the Reavings are not relevant as it concerns the Inner Sphere, also the Succession Wars were worse then the Jihad so that was skipped for being not severe enough.


Have you considered pushing the IS powers to launch a joint attack?

Or that a cold war suddenly going active might spur the next advance?
There has already been a century of conflict and crazy research, now it just need to the right infrastructure to bring it all together and push it past the threshold, and the IlClan would be the ideal tool.


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Re: Fan XTRO: The Society
« Reply #100 on: 22 November 2020, 10:28:27 »
Well the Pentagon Wars and the Reavings are not relevant as it concerns the Inner Sphere, also the Succession Wars were worse then the Jihad so that was skipped for being not severe enough.

I can see what you mean about the Jihad. These are Clanners though, some of which just escaped from Clan space. I would think the Pentagon Wars and Reavings would have more relevance to them than the Succession Wars.

Either way, looking forward to what you come up with.  :thumbsup:

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Re: Fan XTRO: The Society
« Reply #101 on: 24 November 2020, 03:28:33 »
You'll have to tell me the secret of getting people to keep commenting on your things :D
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Re: Fan XTRO: The Society
« Reply #102 on: 24 November 2020, 11:08:36 »
You'll have to tell me the secret of getting people to keep commenting on your things :D

Same, I mean I will write my fanfic in quiet but would like some padding

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Re: Fan XTRO: The Society
« Reply #103 on: 24 November 2020, 19:08:09 »
I think it's because has pictures involved....
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Re: Fan XTRO: The Society
« Reply #104 on: 24 November 2020, 19:40:05 »
You'll have to tell me the secret of getting people to keep commenting on your things :D
I post a lot of different stuff and only a few things get this much attention. So I think that there is mostly just a great need for Society related material among the fans, it is a real shame that we are unlikely to see more from TPTB.


I think it's because has pictures involved....
That too.  ;)
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Re: Fan XTRO: The Society
« Reply #105 on: 24 November 2020, 19:57:43 »
Will the Axion, Tachyon, and the other ASF you made for that Project Legion challenge show up?

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Re: Fan XTRO: The Society
« Reply #106 on: 25 November 2020, 13:53:07 »
Will the Axion, Tachyon, and the other ASF you made for that Project Legion challenge show up?
Those weren't actually mine designs but good work done by marauder648.
https://bg.battletech.com/forums/aerospace/design-challange-society-aerospace/msg1403422/#msg1403422


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Re: Fan XTRO: The Society
« Reply #107 on: 29 December 2020, 19:56:50 »
Will the Axion, Tachyon, and the other ASF you made for that Project Legion challenge show up?

Those are in Project LEGION and while they appear in the stories and have stats they have not been drawn as yet.  Getting a slot with the various artists is hard and Marauder keeps taking all their time lol.

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Re: Fan XTRO: The Society
« Reply #108 on: 29 January 2021, 18:50:49 »
I love the Hellstar so the Gatekeeper is a 'Mech I enjoy. It says the 'Mech must stand still to allow it to go weapons free in it's primary configuration. However, unless I'm mistaken, it has 31 double heatsinks, which means it could run and fire without heat build up. I couldn't find anything suggesting the Interface Cockpit or Nova Cews generated heat.
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Re: Fan XTRO: The Society
« Reply #109 on: 29 January 2021, 18:55:40 »
I love the Hellstar so the Gatekeeper is a 'Mech I enjoy. It says the 'Mech must stand still to allow it to go weapons free in it's primary configuration. However, unless I'm mistaken, it has 31 double heatsinks, which means it could run and fire without heat build up. I couldn't find anything suggesting the Interface Cockpit or Nova Cews generated heat.
The Nova CEWS actually generates 2 points of heat, so to be heat neutral it needs to be stationary.
IO page66 "The Nova CEWS generates +2 heat while active."
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Re: Fan XTRO: The Society
« Reply #110 on: 29 January 2021, 22:10:08 »
Ah, that's it then.
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Re: Fan XTRO: The Society
« Reply #111 on: 29 January 2021, 23:08:16 »
How did you get such big-name artists to help out with your Fan Tro? I mean the art is just amazing. I love the Core Ship. That's nuts.
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Re: Fan XTRO: The Society
« Reply #112 on: 30 January 2021, 10:17:07 »
How did you get such big-name artists to help out with your Fan Tro? I mean the art is just amazing. I love the Core Ship. That's nuts.
Well for new art you got to commission it (thus pay for it) and with existing art either get permission or include an appropriate disclaimer.
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Re: Fan XTRO: The Society
« Reply #113 on: 30 January 2021, 19:01:51 »
Wait...CEWS generates heat??  I have record sheets that don't say that...weird.
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Re: Fan XTRO: The Society
« Reply #114 on: 30 January 2021, 22:49:21 »
I checked Sarna and it does say that it produces 2 heat. Perhaps in older editions of the rules or during it's first appearance it didn't.
It seems like a little thing, to generate just 2 heat but if you add Stealth system, XXL engine and Nova Cews, you start ending up with a significant heat burden.

https://www.sarna.net/wiki/Nova_Combined_Electronic_Warfare_System
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« Reply #115 on: 02 February 2021, 07:57:34 »
Remember the NOVA CEWS is an adaptive C3 Computer, Active Probe and ECM all wrapped into one for the cost of 1.5 tons, 1 crt and 2 heat.
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Re: Fan XTRO: The Society
« Reply #116 on: 07 February 2021, 11:15:56 »

Quick question, what do you guys think of the attached cover?
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Re: Fan XTRO: The Society
« Reply #117 on: 07 February 2021, 11:31:50 »
[EDIT] Delted due to stupidity.   I was thinking that was for the TRO which is out.  That is nice for a Field Manuel and can't wait to read it.[/EDIT]

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Re: Fan XTRO: The Society
« Reply #118 on: 07 February 2021, 12:41:51 »
It makes me think that some WOB remnants in the IS found their way into the Society.

I feel darkly amused by the implications

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Re: Fan XTRO: The Society
« Reply #119 on: 07 February 2021, 15:31:49 »
That's damn snazzy, Maingunnery!  Looking forward to it!!
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