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Coriendal

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Federated Suns 3014
« on: 12 October 2021, 14:44:13 »
Federated Suns production 3014
The Suns has 79 regiments of mechs and employs another 43 regiments of mercenaries.  Holy crap!  They need about 900 mechs to be produced each year to supply their regiments and to replace contract battle damage clauses for the mercenaries.  Bolded numbers are from the 3025 house book.

Crofton:  StarCorp Industries:  24 Warhammer, 10 Longbow, 10 Emperor.
Kathil:  General Motors:  20 Marauder, Blackjack line under repair.
Marduk:  Victory Industries:  30 Griffin, 30 Wolverine.
New Avalon:  Achernar Industries:  40 Locust, 40 Wasp, 30 Phoenix Hawk-D, 30 Enforcer, 40 Dervish, 20 Battleaxe, 20 Hammerhands.
New Avalon:  130 Valkyrie, 30 Centurion
New Valencia:  General Motors:  12 Victor.
Panpour:  Jalastar Aerospace:  40 Javelin, 30 Centurion, 20 Grasshopper.
Quentin:  Independence Weaponry:  5 Atlas, 20 Jagermech, 20 Marauder, 20 Victor.
Robinson:  Robinson Standard Battleworks:  10 Black Knight, 30 Swordsman.
Talcott:  General Motors:  40 Wasp, Blackjack refits, Whitworth refits.
Talon:  Kallon Industries:  20 Hornet, 30 Enforcer, 30 Griffin, 30 Shadow Hawk, 20 Jagermech, 20 Rifleman.

901 mechs produced per year.

310 light mechs
340 medium mechs
194 heavy mechs
57 assault mechs

8 Crucis Lancer RCT
2 Robinson Rangers RCT
10 Draconis March Militia DMM
7 Crucis March Militia CrMM
7 Capellan March Militia CaMM
3 Syrtis Fusiliers RCT
3 Ceti Hussars RCT
6 Deneb Light Cavalry RCT
8 Davion Brigade of Guards RCT
8 Avalon Hussars RCT

Every RCT has two Aero Wings.

1st Federated Suns Armored Cavalry:  Mech regiment with aero wing.
3 NAIS training cadres:  mech regiment.
2 Albion training cadres:  mech regiment.
1st Chisholm’s Raiders:  mech regiment, 2 armor regiments, 3 infantry regiments, 1 aero wing, 2 artillery battalions.
2nd Chisholm’s Raiders:  mech regiment, 2 Aero wings.
1st New Ivaarsen Chasseurs:  mech regiment, 3 aero wings.
2nd New Ivaarsen Chasseurs:  4 mech battalions.
1st Argyle Lancers:  Mech regiment.
1st Kestrel Grenadiers:  2 mech battalions, 1 hover tank battalion.
1st Aragon Borderers:  2 mech battalions, 1 tank battalion.
1st Capellan Dragoons:  mech regiment.
1st Kittery Borderers:  2 mech battalions, 1 tank battalion.

The Star Guards are in Davion employ at this time and about 39 regiments are listed in the 3025 book.  The number of regiments, if not the specific ones listed, should stay pretty close.

How exactly do they afford almost 40 regiments of mercenaries?  Especially when the Kapteyn Alliance members has less than a dozen each.
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Re: Federated Suns 3014
« Reply #1 on: 12 October 2021, 23:16:38 »
Was wondering when we'd see this! Pretty much what I had tracked with a few changes -

Is StarCorps actually able to produce a Emperor in 3014? Doesn't it go from a primitive to XL engines and LBX autocannons?

The Highlander 733 variant might be better suited? It's never been produced in the FedSun's in canon I think but for an AU, why not?

Under the 2nd New Avalon note, did you mean 30 Centurion rather than the Enforcer again? This would be produced by Corean Enterprises.

Robinson is building stuff a lot quicker - no problem there as apparently there was a mech factory just sitting there not doing anything. I wonder if it would make sense to have them bring back the Swordsman in this time frame?

Could have the Sanromea-Davion clan on El Dorado move forward a few decades and finance a mech factory for the Battlemaster rather than the Warlord.


Also - I forgot when, but Davion forces find the plans for the Enfield and Devastator I believe sometime before the 4th Succession War.

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Re: Federated Suns 3014
« Reply #2 on: 12 October 2021, 23:44:24 »
Enfield and Devastator are discovered in the 3023 raid on Hoff.

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Re: Federated Suns 3014
« Reply #3 on: 13 October 2021, 06:17:39 »
The Emperor would be the 5A, AC 5's instead of AC 10's, 16 heat sinks.  I am not committed to it though.

New Avalon:  Corean Enterprises:  130 Valkyrie, 30 Centurion.  You are correct, typo.

Robinson:  Robinson Standard Battleworx:  10 Black Knight, 30 Swordsman.

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Re: Federated Suns 3014
« Reply #4 on: 13 October 2021, 08:26:21 »
With all the double aero wings and large number of regiments I estimate the FS needs about 4500 ASF to fill it’s needs.  That means about 360 ASF/year.

Axton:  Wangker Aerospace:  40 Tomahawk, 40 Eagle, 40 Corsair, 30 Thunderbird.
New Avalon:  Lycomb-Davion Introtech:  40 Lightning, 40 Hellcat, 30 Stuka.
Panpour:  Jalastar Aerospace:  40 Sabre, 60 Sparrowhawk.

Jump ship production:

Delavan:  Federated-Boeing Interstellar:  9 Invader, 5 Star Lord.
Kathil:  Kathil Shipworks:  9 Invader.
Panpour:  Jalastar Aerospace:  3 Monolith.

Drop ship production:

Delavan:  Dynamico Limited:  6 Avenger, 4 Buccaneer.
Galax:  Federated-Boeing Interstellar:  4 Gazelle, 6 Leopard, 6 Leopard CV, 4 Overlord, 2 Mammoth, 2 Mule, 4 Union, 4 Seeker.
Kathil:  Kathil Shipworks:  2 Mammoth, 2 Mule, 4 Seeker.
Layover:  Kallon Industries:  2 Vengeance.
Layover:  Salvatore Incorporated:  4 Seeker.
New Syrtis:  New Syrtis Shipyard:  4 Gazelle, 2 Mammoth, 4 Monarch.

Now that is a nice selection of drop ships. 

On the civilian side you have the Buccaneer, Monarch, the Mule twice and the Mammoth three times.

On the military side you have the Avenger, Gazelle, Leopard, Union, Overlord and the Seeker three times.

I can see why the move to RCT’s.  12 Seekers a year means a lot of Striker and Goblin tanks can be delivered.

You also have the Leopard CV and Vengeance for aerospace support.

No assault dropships though.

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Re: Federated Suns 3014
« Reply #5 on: 13 October 2021, 09:02:15 »
On to vehicles.

With 3 regiments per RCT and 2 regiments per March Militia that is a lot of tanks.  Something on the order of 20,000.  No wonder they dominated the Capellans in the 4th succession war.  If they hadn’t been short of jump and drop ships they could have launched a two front war and won with the LC’s support.

20,000 needed is about 1600/year.

Addicks:  Johnston Industries:  120 Goblin.
Belladonna:  Cal-Boeing of Dorwinion:  20 Cavalry, as needed Ferret, 20 Ripper, as needed Marten, as needed Boomerang.
Broken Wheel:  Quickscell Company:  120 Pegasus.
Johnsondale:  Valiant Systems:  120 Striker, 120 Pegasus.
Kathil:  General Motors:  APC’s, 120 Darter.
Kirklin:  Kallon Industries:  40 Partisan.
Layover:  Quickscell Company:  Heavy APC-T, APC-T, 40 LRM carrier, 40 carrier,20 AC 2 carrier, 20 Laser carrier, 40 Hetzer, 120 Vedette.
New Syrtis:  Johnston Industries:  120 Goblin.
New Valencia:  General Motors: 30 Demolisher.
Panpour:  Jalastar Aerospace:  40 Condor hover-Davion version, 120 Goblin, 40 Manticore, 40 Myrmidon.
Ruchbah:  Michaelson Heavy Industries: 20 Cavalry
Salem:  General Motors:  30 Behemoth, as needed Engineering Vehicle, as needed Ordnance transport, as needed Coolant truck, 120 Darter, APC-T, APC-W, Heavy APC-W.
Torrence:  Veridian Dynamics:  120 Tiger tank.

1640 total.

With 5 infantry regiments per RCT I believe 2 should be heavy APC mechanized regiments.  The March militia’s have 3 infantry regiments, 1 should be heavy APC mechanized.  That means about 176 mechanized regiments needing at least 30 heavy APC’s each for just over 5000.  That requires about 600 heavy APC’s per year to supply them.

This is an insane amount of hardware.

10,000 battlemechs
4500 ASF
20,000 tanks
5000 heavy APC’s

Plus, they can afford almost 40 regiments of mercenaries, more than the entire Kapteyn alliance employs.

This may be revisited after I do the Lyran’s numbers.  If they are even close then I can’t see how they didn’t just destroy their enemies without breaking a sweat.

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Re: Federated Suns 3014
« Reply #6 on: 13 October 2021, 09:34:00 »
How about the Cargomaster/King dropships from Federated Boeing? Just swap out the ER lasers for standards.

Also glad you brought the Tiger back.

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Re: Federated Suns 3014
« Reply #7 on: 13 October 2021, 09:42:51 »
With 3 Mammoth and 2 Mule lines do they really need the Cargomaster/king?

Not really looking forward to the Lyran's.  This has been a real eye opener.

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Re: Federated Suns 3014
« Reply #8 on: 13 October 2021, 10:55:17 »
Yes. Yes they do.  :D ;D

If I recall one of them was designed for the military. Heck just make one and call it the standard for the FedSun navy and cut the Mule for civilian use completely.

On your other thought, the other nations were beefed up in the same manner more or less right?


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Re: Federated Suns 3014
« Reply #9 on: 13 October 2021, 14:14:16 »
No Assault Dropship????
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Re: Federated Suns 3014
« Reply #10 on: 13 October 2021, 17:35:01 »
Enfield and Devastator are discovered in the 3023 raid on Hoff.
The Enfield is something of an enigma as far as Canon is concerned. If you go by the original 1986 edition of TRO:3025 from FASA Enforcer entry, "The Enforcer is based on ideas gleaned from detailed plans of an unbuilt Mech design that Davion forces discovered in an engineering library on Archernar. Though those plans called for two medium lasers on the left arm, Davion engineers discovered that the Mech was structurally strong enough to handle a heavy laser instead. This proved a better weapon because the heavy laser's range matches that of a Class 10 autocannon. The Enforcer was commissioned by House Davion in 2777."
Whereas the original FASA edition of TRO:3058 states the year of discovery of the Enfield's blueprints as 2870 in the RUINS of an engineering library on the planet Archernar by Davion troops. When you compare the entries of the Enforcer and Enfield in the Catalyst Game Labs editions of TRO:3039 Upgrade and TRO:3058 Upgrade respectively you'll see they are similarly apocryphal.

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Re: Federated Suns 3014
« Reply #11 on: 14 October 2021, 02:45:27 »
Yes. Yes they do.  :D ;D

If I recall one of them was designed for the military. Heck just make one and call it the standard for the FedSun navy and cut the Mule for civilian use completely.
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Re: Federated Suns 3014
« Reply #12 on: 14 October 2021, 03:42:57 »
That is a LOT of hardware indeed!  :o

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Re: Federated Suns 3014
« Reply #13 on: 14 October 2021, 05:52:26 »
No Assault Dropship????
Dynamico Limited:  6 Avenger

You are correct.  Somehow my brain read Fury, not Avenger.

Galax:  Federated-Boeing Interstellar:  Drop Mule line of 2/year.  Add the CargoKing at 1/year and CargoMaster at 1/year.  Cargo King is an easy revision, drop the artemis and ER lasers and replace with regular lasers and 30 shots of LRM ammo per launcher.  That lets you up the armor to 468 points.  The CargoMaster replaces weaponry, gives the LRM's 30 rounds of LRM ammo per launcher and ups the armor to 468.
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