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Re: The Federated Sun's Reborn Part TWO
« Reply #30 on: 30 May 2020, 22:29:50 »
Oh the WoB is going to lose a lot more than a few assets. They are going to be facing Clan boarding Elementals and nuclear first strike ordered Warships. Opening volley goes to the FedSuns/Nova Cat force and then the ASF will be likely equipped with anti-ship missiles to crack open their dropships.

true, but remember they are fanatics. Their response is going to be something loonie along the lines of "the great resonance of Blake that flows through the HPG bandwidth was not pleased that we did not WOB hard enough!" and do something even crazier.

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« Reply #31 on: 30 May 2020, 22:36:03 »
true, but remember they are fanatics. Their response is going to be something loonie along the lines of "the great resonance of Blake that flows through the HPG bandwidth was not pleased that we did not WOB hard enough!" and do something even crazier.
They can try and they will go ahead and lose more resources to stupid plans. They are losing and getting weaker with every fight.

I wonder what the NC will do with a captured, one time SLDF Navy Warship?
Not much. They may take it wqith them sell it to the FedSuns for better deals or sell it to ComStar for more money to buy support on their new colonies.
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Re: The Federated Sun's Reborn Part TWO
« Reply #32 on: 30 May 2020, 22:42:29 »
They can try and they will go ahead and lose more resources to stupid plans. They are losing and getting weaker with every fight.
Not much. They may take it wqith them sell it to the FedSuns for better deals or sell it to ComStar for more money to buy support on their new colonies.

or sell it to the GS.  they like old Star League stuff. 

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Re: The Federated Sun's Reborn Part TWO
« Reply #33 on: 30 May 2020, 22:49:23 »
I wonder what the NC will do with a captured, one time SLDF Navy Warship?

dunno, it's CAPTURED instead of outright STOLEN.  I'm not sure Clanners would know WHAT to do with SLDF gear their ancestors didn't steal.
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« Reply #34 on: 30 May 2020, 23:08:43 »
..the Great Verde Turkey Shoot..
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« Reply #35 on: 31 May 2020, 12:54:51 »
3070 - October Interlude - The Battle of Verde - The actors take the stage

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Mayetta PDZ
Draconis March
Federated Suns


Precentor Chang slowly stood as the after effects of the jump wore off and leaned forward hungrily barking a single command. "Report."

The adept in charge of the long range scanners looked up with a hint of worry on his face. "It's hours out of date Precentor... But it appears... There is a large task force in system!"

"WHAT?!" Chang snarled and stormed over to the adepts duty station but the sensor readings were self evident even from the pirate jump point that his task force has arrived at. At least three large cruiser sized ships were in orbit over the planet along with no less than seven corvettes. How had the AFFS known they were coming?! It was impossible... Unless... A traitor! Someone had betrayed his task force to the Davion's! Either a ComGuard ROM agent or one of the damn incompetent Kurita's had let something slip about Operation Scouring! Still whoever it was couldn't have been fully cleared as they hadn't given the Davion's the full strength of the task force. Or they'd have sent more ships. Or perhaps they simply hadn't had the ships to send... Either way he had to decide, whether to commit to action or seek to avoid it. With enemies of the Blessed Blake in front of him it was no choice at all...

"Communications! Have the fleet form up around us. All dropships to launch. Fighters to be made ready for a long range strike on the shipyards. Let the bastard Davion's feel Blake's Blessed Wrath descend upon their heretical shipyard complex and learn that there is no enemy that Blake's Sword cannot strike down! All ships to load special ordinance! The heretics will burn in holy fire!" He snarled the order as he returned to his command seat. The orders went out and all around the WoBS Ray of Enlightenment her lesser sisters formed up. Along with his Black Lion class flagship he had the Aegis class WoBS Herald of Wisdom and WoBS Herald of Justice to match the three enemy cruisers. A hard fight, but his lesser ships would give him the edge. Along with the three cruisers his task force contained two Dante class frigates - the WoBS Nice and WoBS Paris, two Suffren class destroyers - the WoBS Liverpool and WoBS Birmingham along with four Zechetinu II corvettes - the WoBS Tolai, WoBS Snowshoe, WoBS Natal Red Rock and WoBS San Jose Brush. While his cruiser line was matched by the enemy he had a massive superiority over their lighter ships, perhaps not in ship numbers but in size and weight! Combined with the nuclear ordinance he was prepared to throw with the first volley it would be enough to break the enemy and allow him to complete his orders to destroy Verde's vital industries and infrastructure...

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Aboard the FSS Remagen Rear Admiral Walker Clay sat on his flag bridge as the first confirmed reports began coming in. An unknown but suspected Draconis Combine or WOB task force had jumped into the system. They could be here for one of two targets - either Verde's shipyards or for the Nova Cat convoy. He strongly suspected that it was the shipyards, as it was unlikely they could have known the Cat's were coming to Verde. Still it was possible. Deep down Clay had always had his doubts about whether or not he had what it took for flag rank. He knew his failings - a tendency to react aggressively and a problem with listening to alternate viewpoints that tended to combine and had earned him a reputation as a "bull in a china shop" flag officer prone to shoot first and ask questions later. Still right now that might not be a bad thing he reflected. Turning to his flag captain he nodded. "Order all ships of the Division to prepare to engage the enemy at point blank range. Clear for action. The system defence dropships and fighter regiment can hang back and cover the shipyard against any long range strikes. The two fleet aerospace regiments and the dropship flotilla can come with us. We'll take the Division down their throats and tear their guts before they can get close enough to do any real damage..."

"And the Cats?" his flag captain asked as the enemy were confirmed to be Toasters...

"Connect me to the CNCS Principle..." Clay hung on for a minute as all around him the ship's of his four Fox I corvettes prepared for the fight of their service lives while their dropships detached and began to form up. Finally on the communication screen of the flagship Star Admiral David Leroux appeared. Despite himself Clay couldn't help but feel that the genetically engineered warrior was looking down his nose at him but he buried it deep. "Star Admiral. As you are no doubt aware an enemy task force has jumped into the system. I intend to close with them and drive them off from the vital shipyards. However I cannot rule out that they are here for you and your Clan's convoy. As such I will do my best to allow you time to gather your people and get clear of the system. My orders from Vice Admiral Black were very clear, I am to do all in my power to protect the vital cargo your ships are carrying and you have my word that I and my ships will obey those orders!"

Left unsaid by the Davion admiral was that his ships were extremely unlikely to survive engaging the superior WOB task force bearing down upon them...

"That will not be necessary Admiral Walker..." The Clan Star Admiral smiled sourly but with respect glinting in his eyes. "My orders too are clear. I am of course to protect the ships and cargo of my convoy, but I am also to take every opportunity to show the people of the Federated Sun's that Clan Nova Cats are honourable allies. Abandoning you in this fight would hardly comply with my orders. I will detach the Void to carry it's priceless cargo free of the system with your permission, but I will join your attack upon the surat's with my remaining ships Admiral Clay!"

Recognising the honour of the Clan warrior calling him by his second name, Clay nodded and couldn't help but feel his own lips breaking into a fierce smile. "Of course Star Admiral... Given your heavy ships addition to the combat power available for the defence I would be happy to cede command to yourself if you desire it...?"

"That will also not be necessary Admiral Clay. Although my cruisers bring considerable firepower to our joint task force the largest number of ships and attached fighters remain AFFS and it is after all a Federated Sun's system that is under attack. I will subordinate myself to your commands, but if I may offer a suggestion?" At the Davion admirals nod Leroux continued. "My cruisers have shorter ranged but powerful guns. We can close with the enemy while your larger number of fighters and dropships give us cover and your Fox corvettes provide longer ranger support and prevent any enemy vessels breaking past us both..."

"Agreed. If any of your dropships with combat capability can offload their civilians they can join the system defence forces that will be the final line, if that is agreeable Star Admiral?" Clay nodded to his flag captain to begin giving the necessary orders as he and the Star Admiral continued to coordinate the defence of Verde even as their ships began to form up and head out to meet the enemy. Already each Fox corvette had detached a Vengeance class dropship carrier and two A3-Overlord's each along with additional assault dropships. Orders to every Davion ship were also sent out via carefully encrypted code - load nuclear ordinance. The WOB was doubtless going to be firing nukes so the AFFS would meet their nuclear fire with it's own from the first volley! The CNCS Void was even as the other ships prepared breaking orbit and heading for the nearest pirate point under a heavy escort of dropships from the Clan forces - escorting dropships that would not jump out with her but would return to guard the planet once the Void had gotten clear.

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Re: The Federated Sun's Reborn Part TWO
« Reply #36 on: 31 May 2020, 13:05:42 »
Next chapter - Lots of instant sunshine to everybody.

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« Reply #37 on: 31 May 2020, 13:39:00 »
opening moves.  can not wait for more

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« Reply #38 on: 31 May 2020, 14:40:40 »
Well looks like things are about to get hectic. The WoB is charging in thinking their nukes are going to be the ultimate decider. Too bad everyone else also uses them against the WoB. They may have powerful ships but the defenders have the advantage of having the home field advantage and will be hitting them hard from the very start. They are also facing veterans on the Clan ships and plenty of skilled FedSuns sailors.
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« Reply #39 on: 31 May 2020, 14:57:39 »
Well looks like things are about to get hectic. The WoB is charging in thinking their nukes are going to be the ultimate decider. Too bad everyone else also uses them against the WoB. They may have powerful ships but the defenders have the advantage of having the home field advantage and will be hitting them hard from the very start. They are also facing veterans on the Clan ships and plenty of skilled FedSuns sailors.

uncontrollable giggling..."Skilled" Fedsuns Sailors doesn't belong in the same sentence-the Federated suns wins Naval engagements by ramming, check the canon.  These guys will drive a ship into another ship in a heartbeat, even when they can win using actual....weapons.
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Re: The Federated Sun's Reborn Part TWO
« Reply #40 on: 31 May 2020, 15:04:51 »
I'm surprised nobody has picked up on the admiral in charge...

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« Reply #41 on: 31 May 2020, 17:52:00 »
I'm surprised nobody has picked up on the admiral in charge...

I recognize the name, some FS/FC admiral from the Civil War, but that's a period of Battletech that I otherwise largely despise.

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« Reply #42 on: 31 May 2020, 18:01:01 »
I recognize the name, some FS/FC admiral from the Civil War, but that's a period of Battletech that I otherwise largely despise.

same here

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« Reply #43 on: 31 May 2020, 18:06:10 »
He was in charge of the two Fox corvettes during the attack on Terra that ended the Jihad. He went off mission and resulted in a Diamond Shark warship being destroyed - along with his own Fox and the other heavily damaged. He was court martialed and executed for that and for killing his XO who tried to relieve him off command.

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« Reply #44 on: 31 May 2020, 18:22:37 »
He was in charge of the two Fox corvettes during the attack on Terra that ended the Jihad. He went off mission and resulted in a Diamond Shark warship being destroyed - along with his own Fox and the other heavily damaged. He was court martialed and executed for that and for killing his XO who tried to relieve him off command.

ug hope he is not that dumb in this AU.   

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« Reply #45 on: 31 May 2020, 18:31:12 »
The line that I always remembered from it was "You should have had the good graces to die with your ship Walker" from one of the judges. I sort of figured that this would let me show that the changes aren't just on a large scale, they are within the men and women of the AFFS now. This isn't an admiral smashed by years of civil war, Jihad, having watched his nation driven to the edge. He's still a professional. More he's a professional that knows his nation is growing stronger not on the verge of destruction.

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« Reply #46 on: 31 May 2020, 20:23:14 »
Curious tactics from the allies here. Those Fox's (and they are Fox Is) are going to have to stick to the bigger Clan ships like glue to screen them, they are horribly open to long range nuclear strikes. The AFFS fighters are going to have to be aggressive though, to almost suicidal levels to keep the fighters away from the Clan ships and perhaps to screen for incoming missile volleys. Counter-fire is going to be incredibly hard given the much more effective screening designs the WOB are coming with. And the sheer speed the WOB ships have in some cases...

This is going to be a bloody frigen battle. And who wins is probably going to come down to who makes the first wrong move...

Personally I'm hoping for a Pirate Point Iron Duke Renegade interrupt :)
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« Reply #47 on: 01 June 2020, 20:48:08 »
Don't think the Iron Duke is done yet. And it probably is still a bit too far to get there on time before they are fully engaged. If it is ready it could come in with the relief force. If the FedSuns or the clans can capture the flagship of the WoB in a lighting strike fast enough to stop a self destruct then they will get all the Intel they need and any damages done will be worth it for that.
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Re: The Federated Sun's Reborn Part TWO
« Reply #48 on: 01 June 2020, 20:55:51 »
3070 - June - Navy expansions - the Iron Duke was commissioned into service. She's had four months for workups, although its entirely possible as the lead ship of her class there are teething problems (and lessons being learned applied to the following 'from the ground up' constructions for that matter) and she's still doing a lot of testing and training.
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« Reply #49 on: 01 June 2020, 23:08:45 »
Just cause the Iron Duke was commissioned doesn't mean it is done yet. The crews need far more training and throwing them into a fight where they are not ready is the easiest way to wreck the only battleship in the Navy.
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Re: The Federated Sun's Reborn Part TWO
« Reply #50 on: 03 June 2020, 01:30:08 »
uncontrollable giggling..."Skilled" Fedsuns Sailors doesn't belong in the same sentence-the Federated suns wins Naval engagements by ramming, check the canon.  These guys will drive a ship into another ship in a heartbeat, even when they can win using actual....weapons.

If I get a time machine, I am going to addition to other secret plans go back in time to buy FASA before 2000, and then I will prevent Flashpoint from ending with the ramming of the Robert Davion. Maybe I should revise the plan to a few years earlier? Nah, that would interfere with the rest of the plans.

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« Reply #51 on: 03 June 2020, 01:30:56 »
The line that I always remembered from it was "You should have had the good graces to die with your ship Walker" from one of the judges. I sort of figured that this would let me show that the changes aren't just on a large scale, they are within the men and women of the AFFS now. This isn't an admiral smashed by years of civil war, Jihad, having watched his nation driven to the edge. He's still a professional. More he's a professional that knows his nation is growing stronger not on the verge of destruction.

Hopefully, he keeps his sword this time.

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« Reply #52 on: 03 June 2020, 03:36:15 »
If I get a time machine, I am going to addition to other secret plans go back in time to buy FASA before 2000, and then I will prevent Flashpoint from ending with the ramming of the Robert Davion. Maybe I should revise the plan to a few years earlier? Nah, that would interfere with the rest of the plans.

Hey, don't blame the ships crews, blame the damn designers who keep putting a 'RAMMING SPEED!' setting on the ships throttle!
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« Reply #53 on: 03 June 2020, 09:48:46 »
3070 - October Interlude - The Battle of Verde - Sacrifice

Verde
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Draconis March
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From somewhere nearby Rear Admiral Clay could hear someone sobbing in agony, he thought it was one of the tactical officers - probably Lieutenant O'Higgins who's duty station had exploded a few minutes ago. Given the fading sound of the sobbing it was apparent that either unconsciousness or death would soon be claiming the redheaded native of Jesup. Not that the rest of them were far behind he had to admit as he tried to ignore the pain of his broken left arm which hung useless at his side as he clung to his command chair. All around him he could feel the FSS Remagen dying. The ship had taken no less than two heavy broadsides from one of the Blakist cruisers and had taken a missile strike from a nuclear tipped Barracuda missile launched by one of those damn fast corvettes. Her armour was shattered, her spine snapped and almost every weapon was out of commission, but the few guns she still had were firing under local control at any targets of opportunity. He glared in pained fury at one of the few screens still reporting from the remaining sensors which showed that the rest of the fleet wasn't much better off.

The enemy flagship was slowly drifting in-system with no control. Reports were that at least some Clan Nova Cat Elemental's had managed to breach the hull, but no reliable reports had been sent indicating whether they were having any success at seizing control of the drifting hulk or had all been wiped out. Meanwhile the two remaining Nova Cat Aegis cruisers - the CNCS Principle and CNCS Remembrance were hammering one of the enemy Aegis cruisers in a lopsided short ranged brawl. The remaining enemy cruiser which had just smashed it's second volley into the FSS Remagen was now breaking off from the air bleeding hulk of the Fox class corvette to rush to the aid of it's sister ship.

The lighter ship battle had been equally bloody. The FSS Logandale had exploded during the brief battle that had smashed the enemy flagship, while the FSS Mirach was in even worse trouble than the division's flagship and was floating dead in space after no less than three nuclear strikes. The FSS Weldon was the only FedSun's ship still in the fight and she was engaged alongside the CNCS Far Vision in holding off the single remaining enemy destroyer and two corvettes from linking back up with the enemy cruisers. A fight that they were almost certainly going to lose unless one of the Clan Aegis managed to reinforce them - which they couldn't do while still facing off against an equal number of cruisers.

Between the shattered hulks and still fighting warships aerospace fighters and assault dropships weaved and fought their own battles and dogfights. While the last FedSun's pocket warship had been destroyed during the the early fighting, ships armed with hammers but armoured in eggshells hadn't lasted in this type of fight, their massed nuclear missile strikes had destroyed their opposite numbers and managed to aid in the destruction of the WoBS Nice alongside combined allied fighter strikes. Still the handful of remaining assault dropships remained threats to the surviving warships - particularly given that all of them had suffered heavy damage, as did the remaining AFFS naval fighter wings who had almost managed to obtain supremacy over their Toaster counterparts. A supremacy that could tip the balance in favour of the combined FedSun's/Clan ships but wouldn't matter if the WOB were able to smash the remaining allied warships before it could be fully brought to bare.

Snarling and tasting blood from his broken nose in his mouth he used his one good hand to hit the communication channel to the ship's bridge. "Captain... Can you hear me?!"

"Yes Admiral... We still have a direct communication to your flag bridge... But we've lost comm's with the rest of the ships of the fleet."

"As long as you can hear me... We can't let that Toaster cruiser engage the Cat's. We need to buy them time to finish off the other cruiser!" Clay panted wondering when the painkillers his flag Lieutenant had administered to his system would kick in, and hoping that they already hadn't and this was the best they could do.

"I agree Admiral Clay, but my ship's got almost nothing left to throw at them!" The pain of the damage on his ship coloured the rage in Captain Keller's voice.

"You still have engines don't you?! RAM the bastard! Or at least make them manoeuvre to avoid us! We need to stop them Captain!" Clay almost roared.

There was a long pause from the other end of the line and Clay worried that the Captain was going to refuse his order. Probably his last order. Just as he was about to repeat himself Captain Keller spoke. "You're right sir. I'll order all non-critical crew to the lifeboats and take her in. Get to the lifeboats Admiral..."

"The hell I will! I'll have the good grace to die with my ship Captain. Now get the orders out!" Before the Captain could argue he cut communication channel and then barked at his remaining staff officers. "You heard what order I just gave. Everyone get out. If you can't walk... crawl damn you! Or get someone to carry you!"

"Admiral..." His flag stepped forward from where he had been splinting the leg of a communication astech.

"No. Lieutenant Lee you have your orders. Get to the lifeboats or my last act as an officer in the Federated Sun's Navy will be to order you shot for disobeying an order in the face of the enemy! Get moving! All of you." Glowering at them all he watched as the painfully few of his staff who were still alive in the shattered flag bridge helped each other leave the room, each one who was still able saluting him as they passed. With his arm broken and the other one keeping him upright all he could do was nod at them as the ship's engines began to fire up and direct the ship on it's new course. Even on the flag bridge he could hear the ships already damaged internal structure start to snap and tear as the engines roared to full power as the ship's nose aimed itself at the WoBS Herald of Justice... If the ship hadn't already been damaged beyond repair the strain of the engines blasting her forward would have been the final straw, but then again she only had to hold together for a few more minutes.

On the single functional screen he could see the Blakist ship starting to roll and turn, but the Aegis cruisers had always been slow. Judging by the fire streaming out from the few remaining weapons in the forward arc's of the FSS Remagen the gun crews had clearly remained at their posts, those magnificent bastards. Bloodied lips drew back in what might have been a smile as a single nuclear missile launched from his ship smashed into the WoBS Herald of Justice's already damaged engine pods slowing it's maneuver still further. Rear Admiral Walker Clay began to laugh as he leaned forward in his chair, the pain of his shattered arm forgotten as he roared alone on his flag bridge. "Too slow! Too slow you toaster-worshipping bastards! I've got you... I've got you!"

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Extract from "The Federated Sun's Navy, 3050-3075: A Rebirth."

During the action within the Verde system on the 26th and 27th of October 3070 the actions of four individuals stand out. The decision by Precentor Chang to detach the WoBS Paris along with almost half of his various dropship escorts for an end run against the planet of Verde and it's shipyards (which led to catastrophic civilian losses within the Verde system) was clearly militarily the wrong decision. Had the frigate and the large number of dropships remained with his main force and been available to support his other ships in the engagement with the Federated Suns and Nova Cat allied task force it is extremely likely that it might have tipped the balance in his favour as for a number of hours the battle remained on a knife edge. The second individual who's actions largely shaped the battle's outcome was Rear Admiral Walker Clay, who's heroic order to Captain Keller to ram the crippled FSS Remagen into the WoBS Herald of Justice was ultimately the deciding moment of the battle. With the destruction of the almost undamaged cruiser the balance of power shifted irreversably towards the allied task force. Had the WoBS Herald of Justice been able to come to the relief of her sister ship the WoBS Herald of Wisdom the two ships might have been able to defeat the two Nova Cat Cruisers who subsequently destroyed the WoBS Herald of Wisdom and then moved to aid the single remaining allied light ship the FSS Weldon in destroying the WoBS Birmingham and WoBS Snowshoe. Star Admiral David Leroux's leadership following the death of Rear Admiral Clay in the destruction of the WOB task force and subsequent relief efforts within the Verde system not only secured the victory for which Walker Clay and his flagship had died to obtain, but also no doubt saved the lives of thousands of both Nova Cat civilians and Federated Sun's citizens on Verde. The final individual who's actions stand out from the pages of history is of course Duke Nelson who's commitment of his own world's veteran militia aerospace wing and all available dropships (including civilian dropships such as his own pleasure yacht) was enough to drive off the WoBS Paris before it could launch a full bombardment of his world. While the loss of life in the three cities which were destroyed either by nuclear missiles (from pocket warships accompanying the WoBS Paris) or falling debris from the shipyard complex which had been shattered by the WoBS Paris's laser fire was horrific, almost all agree that had he not bolstered the final defensive line in this manner the losses might have been even worse.
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Re: The Federated Sun's Reborn Part TWO
« Reply #54 on: 03 June 2020, 10:11:01 »
Great way to go out in a blaze of glory! I salute you, Rear Admiral Walker Clay! o7

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Re: The Federated Sun's Reborn Part TWO
« Reply #55 on: 03 June 2020, 11:31:27 »
Good chance Clan NC will add Admiral Clay to their remembrance.
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Re: The Federated Sun's Reborn Part TWO
« Reply #56 on: 03 June 2020, 12:00:53 »
More or less what I expected to happen here. Clay still did the same thing as canon but this time for different reasons and with him staying with his ship. The shipyards weren't likely to make it out of this fight so no surprise there. Luckily the damage to the planet was minimized.
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Re: The Federated Sun's Reborn Part TWO
« Reply #57 on: 03 June 2020, 12:21:31 »
If I get a time machine, I am going to addition to other secret plans go back in time to buy FASA before 2000, and then I will prevent Flashpoint from ending with the ramming of the Robert Davion. Maybe I should revise the plan to a few years earlier? Nah, that would interfere with the rest of the plans.

You'll need to do a lot more than just that.  if you go back through the listings, and look it up, Feddie Captains have a disturbing HABIT of ramming as their primary tactic.  You know, like war-galleys at the battle of salamis.

you know, instead of using actual weapons or actual tactics.  (if you are in range to ram, you've already screwed up and deserve the punishment you're getting, since a simple change in thrust profile will change your velocity and force the other guy to change course to match.)

if you're fighting close enough to play bumper-cars, you're already making serious mistakes.  This isn't a nice, confined river-delta and these aren't coal fired paddlewheelers here, fighting on a confined two-dimensional surface.

basically, innahlodah should never be in command of a spaceship.
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Re: The Federated Sun's Reborn Part TWO
« Reply #58 on: 03 June 2020, 13:01:58 »
More or less what I expected to happen here. Clay still did the same thing as canon but this time for different reasons and with him staying with his ship. The shipyards weren't likely to make it out of this fight so no surprise there. Luckily the damage to the planet was minimized.

Well he didn't go off mission. In fact he kept on mission. And as you say, he stayed with his ship and went down fighting. Difference between a hero and a villain. I have in mind that he might end up with a New Syrtis named after him on the FS side.

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Re: The Federated Sun's Reborn Part TWO
« Reply #59 on: 03 June 2020, 13:39:51 »
You'll need to do a lot more than just that.  if you go back through the listings, and look it up, Feddie Captains have a disturbing HABIT of ramming as their primary tactic.  You know, like war-galleys at the battle of salamis.

you know, instead of using actual weapons or actual tactics.  (if you are in range to ram, you've already screwed up and deserve the punishment you're getting, since a simple change in thrust profile will change your velocity and force the other guy to change course to match.)

if you're fighting close enough to play bumper-cars, you're already making serious mistakes.  This isn't a nice, confined river-delta and these aren't coal fired paddlewheelers here, fighting on a confined two-dimensional surface.

basically, innahlodah should never be in command of a spaceship.


If you are close enough to Ram and have working weapons with ammo.


You are close enough to do aimed shots at their engines, or other priority targets and hurt them enough to make you damage meaningful.
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