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do mech cooling "suits" exist?
« on: 02 May 2021, 22:48:40 »
does this thing even exist? a mech cooling suit
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Re: do mech cooling "suits" exist?
« Reply #1 on: 02 May 2021, 23:29:50 »
Closest would be heat resistant armor that appeared in republic times. Just a bonus vs external weapon heat sources

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« Reply #2 on: 03 May 2021, 09:08:37 »
does this thing even exist? a mech cooling suit

In the anime Fang of the Sun Dougram, which is where that picture and the Unseen BattleMaster design originate? Yes. In BattleTech? No.

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Re: do mech cooling "suits" exist?
« Reply #3 on: 03 May 2021, 10:31:10 »
Personally I'd get a kick out of someone finding a way to slip 'Mech hang gliders into canon.


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« Reply #4 on: 03 May 2021, 10:36:36 »
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Re: do mech cooling "suits" exist?
« Reply #5 on: 03 May 2021, 12:50:16 »
does this thing even exist? a mech cooling suit
As far as I am aware, that is a camouflage suit in the Dougram universe (advertised as "Snow Camouflage with Cold Shield."). It could exist in BT. They use tarps and nets after all.

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« Reply #6 on: 03 May 2021, 13:46:18 »
https://www.sarna.net/wiki/135-K_Coolant_Truck

Just spray them down with coolant. The idea of a suit is total madness. It would get punctured immediately by weapons fire, if the force of the mech moving itself didn't destroy it.

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« Reply #7 on: 03 May 2021, 14:10:06 »
Plus it's really insulating it rather than let the heat radiate outward.

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Re: do mech cooling "suits" exist?
« Reply #8 on: 03 May 2021, 14:36:49 »
Water filled "suit" could work as an extra cooler for a while. Like a jiggly Michelin man blowing steam every time it opens fire ;D.

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« Reply #9 on: 03 May 2021, 15:20:42 »
Water filled "suit" could work as an extra cooler for a while. Like a jiggly Michelin man blowing steam every time it opens fire ;D.

I'm pretty sure Greenburg's Godzillas have a StayPuft Marshmallow Man mock up in their repertoire.
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Re: do mech cooling "suits" exist?
« Reply #10 on: 03 May 2021, 18:23:09 »
Just spray them down with coolant. The idea of a suit is total madness. It would get punctured immediately by weapons fire, if the force of the mech moving itself didn't destroy it.

Yeah I can't see it being useful for anything besides masking your heat signature to get one surprise shot off in an ambush. And BattleTech has much greater diversity in the physiology of its mecha than Dougram did, so the number of different shapes/sizes of "suit" you'd need makes the whole thing seem sort of impractical. Not to mention I think canonically there's a description of a mercenary unit (maybe the Black Omen/Outlaws) ambushing a Clan force by half-submerging their 'Mechs in a frozen lake and wrapping them with giant pieces of burlap(!), which makes specialized 'Mech cooling suits seem unnecessary.

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« Reply #11 on: 03 May 2021, 21:37:28 »
I'm pretty sure Greenburg's Godzillas have a StayPuft Marshmallow Man mock up in their repertoire.

Ah, but they only need to store the hat; the rest is just painting a Gunslinger white!

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« Reply #12 on: 03 May 2021, 21:39:30 »
My favorite bit of obscure trivia is that the Michelin Man has a name (besides just the Michelin Man), but I only know this from reading William Gibson's Pattern Recognition.

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« Reply #13 on: 03 May 2021, 23:43:51 »
Personally I'd get a kick out of someone finding a way to slip 'Mech hang gliders into canon.


A Fan design involving a conventional fighter or support vehicle, no engine, no fuel, little armor, no weapons, just a basic engine, Control Systems/Avionics, some VSTOL capability, and enough cargo capacity to carry the Mech?  Need rules for gliding though, to determine how far the glider can travel with its engines 'off'
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« Reply #14 on: 04 May 2021, 00:50:34 »
I can so see several of those being towed behind an aerodyne DropShip, a la WWII assault gliders.  Rather than getting towed at takeoff, they get reeled out in flight.
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Re: do mech cooling "suits" exist?
« Reply #15 on: 04 May 2021, 08:31:31 »
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« Reply #16 on: 04 May 2021, 08:36:00 »
So are we actually talking about cooling the Mech or hiding the Mech from thermal imagining here though? The two are pretty much polar opposites. Cooling the Mech requires getting rid of the heat (which should make it very visible on the IR spectrum) while hiding the Mech would require keeping the heat internal (Null Signature System and Stealth Armor kinda do this already).

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« Reply #17 on: 04 May 2021, 09:06:21 »
Am I the only person who thinks the image in the original post looks a little like an Apollo or Space Shuttle astronaut in a spacesuit? :)
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« Reply #18 on: 04 May 2021, 12:22:14 »
Am I the only person who thinks the image in the original post looks a little like an Apollo or Space Shuttle astronaut in a spacesuit? :)

It would make cosplaying as a Battlemaster super easy  ;D

I really thought it was someone wearing a costume.  Mafia boss Beemer wearing its weekend tracksuit :D
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« Reply #19 on: 04 May 2021, 15:14:30 »
I really thought it was someone wearing a costume.  Mafia boss Beemer wearing its weekend tracksuit :D
If it were an Adidas tracksuit it could be the Blyattlemaster.

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« Reply #20 on: 04 May 2021, 15:20:04 »
If it were an Adidas tracksuit it could be the Blyattlemaster.

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« Reply #21 on: 04 May 2021, 23:14:43 »
A Time of War have a cooling vest as mech pilot equipment.  For the mech itself there is a cooling pod and radical heat sink tech that can be used to cool off the mech itself vs the pilot.  Seen expanded cockpits with light battle armor worn by the pilot ie Bounty Hunter presumably with life support mission equipment.  But  a whole non battle armor suit no . That I have seen .

I am an older player with less patience than most and like to run cold running mechs for speed of play . However more comfortable the pilot is : heat stress still reduces mech speed  and  targeting systems negatively.  Just less pilot hits due to heat to the pilot .

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« Reply #22 on: 07 May 2021, 14:04:51 »
does this thing even exist? a mech cooling suit

As a cooling suit? No. A Mech sized Sneak Suit...I could see that happening.



Personally I'd get a kick out of someone finding a way to slip 'Mech hang gliders into canon.


Low tech reusable Mech drop pack for in atmosphere use?

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« Reply #23 on: 10 May 2021, 20:08:49 »
A mech-sized sneak suit is known as Stealth Armor.
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« Reply #24 on: 10 May 2021, 21:09:58 »
A mech-sized sneak suit is known as Stealth Armor.

Not quite the same thing. A sneak suit would be detachable or discardable. Stealth Armor is integral.

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« Reply #25 on: 11 May 2021, 08:50:10 »
Not quite the same thing. A sneak suit would be detachable or discardable. Stealth Armor is integral.
Stealth Armor can be detached the same way as any kind of armor: Sufficient enemy fire.
Granted, this means that if your Stealth Armor is being detached it has already failed you.

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« Reply #26 on: 11 May 2021, 15:13:52 »
Stealth Armor can be detached the same way as any kind of armor: Sufficient enemy fire.
Granted, this means that if your Stealth Armor is being detached it has already failed you.

Fun fact, Stealth Armor still works if it's all destroyed!
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« Reply #27 on: 11 May 2021, 18:06:05 »
Fun fact, Stealth Armor still works if it's all destroyed!

It works better when it's destroyed.  With all those holes in your combat vehicle, the enemy will see right through you and not notice you at all  ;D
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« Reply #28 on: 12 May 2021, 14:49:31 »
Fun fact, Stealth Armor still works if it's all destroyed!

Does that turn it into a Null Signature system?   ^-^
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« Reply #29 on: 12 May 2021, 17:23:41 »
Only when active sensors and engine have been destroyed as well  ;D

 

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