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Iron Womb Development reported in real life
« on: 05 October 2022, 08:53:58 »
Hi all,
I always like to share sci-fi tech development becoming real, cutting edge science. On 25 August, research published in one of the most prestigious journals, Nature, reports creating an artificial womb and growing mouse embryos.
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Re: Iron Womb Development reported in real life
« Reply #1 on: 05 October 2022, 09:19:13 »
Hi all,
I always like to share sci-fi tech development becoming real, cutting edge science. On 25 August, research published in one of the most prestigious journals, Nature, reports creating an artificial womb and growing mouse embryos.
S.gage
i think you may be late by few years there are sheep bag wombs that had been used in experiments in ireland or scotland article was about 7 years back or so
basically it was a plastic bag with semi natural placenta with a circulation system
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Re: Iron Womb Development reported in real life
« Reply #2 on: 05 October 2022, 09:53:52 »
i think you may be late by few years there are sheep bag wombs that had been used in experiments in ireland or scotland article was about 7 years back or so
basically it was a plastic bag with semi natural placenta with a circulation system

I’ll have to look that up. Nature does not publish without novelty, perhaps because it is murine or because the scientists essentially used stem cells and induced stem cells to make a more “natural” placenta?
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Re: Iron Womb Development reported in real life
« Reply #3 on: 05 October 2022, 09:56:20 »
Trueborn Elemental Mice when?   ;D
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Re: Iron Womb Development reported in real life
« Reply #4 on: 05 October 2022, 10:06:27 »
i think you may be late by few years there are sheep bag wombs that had been used in experiments in ireland or scotland article was about 7 years back or so
basically it was a plastic bag with semi natural placenta with a circulation system

I found it. The difference is the “biobag” also reported in a Nature Publishing Group journal is for premature babies to extend gestation. This new one is capable of developing the embryo at early stages, through gastrulation and neurulation
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Re: Iron Womb Development reported in real life
« Reply #5 on: 05 October 2022, 20:33:15 »
Cool, but shouldn't this be in Off Topic? ???

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Re: Iron Womb Development reported in real life
« Reply #6 on: 05 October 2022, 20:54:31 »
I found it. The difference is the “biobag” also reported in a Nature Publishing Group journal is for premature babies to extend gestation. This new one is capable of developing the embryo at early stages, through gastrulation and neurulation

Yeah that's the difference. It only raise the premature baby sheep but it didn't raise an embryo.

Also it is more suited for off topic, of course. It is a good news, though. Even now the mortality during childbirth is a threat, after all. I don't think that many will accept this right now but still it's better than nothing. Even if it didn't used for the full artificial womb it can be used for save and raise premature baby, thus save more people.

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Re: Iron Womb Development reported in real life
« Reply #7 on: 05 October 2022, 21:05:01 »
Cool, but shouldn't this be in Off Topic? ???

It should. This is as big of a leap as Google AI = Casper Drones vs more annoying chat bots.  xp
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Re: Iron Womb Development reported in real life
« Reply #8 on: 05 October 2022, 22:00:00 »
Trueborn Elemental Mice when?   ;D

Isn't that just a purebred rat?

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Re: Iron Womb Development reported in real life
« Reply #10 on: 06 October 2022, 00:38:38 »
Trueborn Elemental Mice when?   ;D

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Re: Iron Womb Development reported in real life
« Reply #11 on: 06 October 2022, 06:29:52 »
Isn't that just a purebred rat?

Good point - nature already found a need for rats and we got them  ;D  I figured they'd be better at powering servers than hamsters as they're bigger and stronger.

Shortly after cold fusion.

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Re: Iron Womb Development reported in real life
« Reply #12 on: 13 October 2022, 19:55:14 »
It should. This is as big of a leap as Google AI = Casper Drones vs more annoying chat bots.  xp

To be fair, I meant this was a step toward Iron Womb tech and I could have phased that better.
However, I stand by this being big news. To put it in context, we have nearly 70 years of improvements in neonatal support technologies for premature infants. Early zygote and blastocyst implantation have also been reported for a while, but only early stages. This is the first time we have reported a system allowing zygote implantation with subsequent development through gastrulation and neurulation. And as we are all aware, it's likely the signaling and environment outside the zygote may be conserved (at least, lots of homologous signaling molecules, etc) between all mammals.
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Re: Iron Womb Development reported in real life
« Reply #13 on: 14 October 2022, 13:27:20 »
There is also this short article from the BBC from 2019 https://www.bbc.com/news/av/health-50056405

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« Reply #14 on: 14 October 2022, 13:39:32 »
And also, from wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_womb
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On 22 July 1954 Emanuel M. Greenberg filed a patent on the design for an artificial womb.[15] The patent included two images of the design for an artificial womb. The design itself included a tank to place the fetus filled with amniotic fluid, a machine connecting to the umbilical cord, blood pumps, an artificial kidney, and a water heater. He was granted the patent on 15 November 1955.

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Re: Iron Womb Development reported in real life
« Reply #15 on: 14 October 2022, 15:12:00 »
Trueborn Elemental Mice when?   ;D

I believe your looking for miniaturized giant space hamsters!
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