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Re: New and Upcoming Releases II
« Reply #930 on: 24 April 2015, 01:19:23 »
I don't know how to handle being in a world where HBHK has finally been published. This truly is the golden age of humanity.
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases II
« Reply #931 on: 24 April 2015, 01:40:44 »
BTTP: Irian seems to have a problem... Bought it at the battleshop a couple of hours ago, but the download stopped before completing. I thought the problem was on my side, but now the links are dead.

http://bg.battletech.com/test/epubs/dark-age-turning-points-irian/
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases II
« Reply #932 on: 24 April 2015, 01:45:18 »
Can people not prefix TP:Irian with BT? It makes it read like there's some sort of era I've missed

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Re: New and Upcoming Releases II
« Reply #933 on: 24 April 2015, 13:58:34 »
I purchased both!  Gotta love the full planetary maps of these Turning Points items!  Helps to give the universe even more depth.

But, the prize is the Handbook Draconis Combine.  I have been waiting for this one for awhile and it was worth the wait!  Thanks!

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Re: New and Upcoming Releases II
« Reply #934 on: 24 April 2015, 17:35:43 »
How come their not putting in Dark Age in the name on the Battle Corp site? The pdf still has a Dark Age Turning Points on it.  It's labeled Battletech Turning Point.   I kinda like having the era the product is happening in the name..
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases II
« Reply #935 on: 24 April 2015, 20:31:58 »
The lines will be Turning Points and Operational Turning Points from now on. The eras are indicated by the Era Icons, and the planet names for the titles could eventually cause confusion, even if we expanded the lines to Star League Turning Points, Succession War Turning Points, and so on.

It won't change anything, just a step towards inclusiveness.  O0
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases II
« Reply #936 on: 24 April 2015, 21:19:55 »
Especially when some contain scenarios from several eras?
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases II
« Reply #937 on: 24 April 2015, 23:17:42 »
just a small thing, but Irian's product page still doesn't have the links for Battlecorps or DriveThruRPG

http://bg.battletech.com/test/epubs/dark-age-turning-points-irian/

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Re: New and Upcoming Releases II
« Reply #938 on: 24 April 2015, 23:52:08 »
It was nice to see the fight on Irian was as messed up as I expected everyone really did throw the kitchen sink at it

The Marauder II I wasn't overly impressed with would have loved to see one that was really different like HAGs or a Long Tom something completely nuts maybe bombast lasers or Improved Heavies

The industrial mech support units and assignment tables were all very cool as was the map who knew it was so watery overall I'm not complaining a bit
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases II
« Reply #939 on: 25 April 2015, 00:26:39 »
The lines will be Turning Points and Operational Turning Points from now on. The eras are indicated by the Era Icons, and the planet names for the titles could eventually cause confusion, even if we expanded the lines to Star League Turning Points, Succession War Turning Points, and so on.

It won't change anything, just a step towards inclusiveness.  O0

Won't that cause confusion anyways?
With era name on it, least someone buying it will know when it's happening instantly.   
Hesperus II had multiple era conflicts on world for example,  From Age of War to Dark Age.
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases II
« Reply #940 on: 25 April 2015, 10:57:24 »
No, it shouldn't.

The titles didn't conform to our era designations. By now, both Jihad and Dark Age are historical. And the title 'historical' itself doesn't give enough information while detracting from the concept of eras, as if it's of lesser importance or focus. Coupled with the planet name, it doesn't give enough of a distinct title and could potentially run into issues.

Your example is perfect. If we did two products, one for the 8th Battle of Hesperus II and the 13th Battle of Hesperus II, would they be called...Historical Turning Points: Hesperus II and Historical Turning Points: Hesperus II 2? More confusing. And expanding the titles to use the actual era designations would not help either, as you'd be simply replacing "Historical" with "Succession Wars."

No other print or PDF line has those designators, no reason for Turning Points to do so. Trust that this wasn't a whim.
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases II
« Reply #941 on: 25 April 2015, 11:03:04 »
Your example is perfect. If we did two products, one for the 8th Battle of Hesperus II and the 13th Battle of Hesperus II, would they be called...Historical Turning Points: Hesperus II and Historical Turning Points: Hesperus II 2? More confusing. And expanding the titles to use the actual era designations would not help either, as you'd be simply replacing "Historical" with "Succession Wars."


Then someone goes and does the 10th Battle, would that be Historical Turning Points: Hesperus II 1.5 or Historical Turning Points: Hesperus II 3? That'd be a doozy!
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases II
« Reply #942 on: 25 April 2015, 12:13:38 »
Well Hesperus is kinda unique. I know a couple of them have already been done, but maybe we need a compendium of all the battles for Hesperus II together.
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases II
« Reply #943 on: 25 April 2015, 16:40:23 »
There were some issues with the Irian map, and the PDF has been updated.
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases II
« Reply #944 on: 25 April 2015, 16:47:17 »
On the topic of Irian; I like the MAD-6S but I'm curious about the reason for the rear facing AMS and its availability.

I also wonder how that rear facing AMS affects the unit's Alpha Strike stats.
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases II
« Reply #945 on: 25 April 2015, 20:22:12 »
No, it shouldn't.

The titles didn't conform to our era designations. By now, both Jihad and Dark Age are historical. And the title 'historical' itself doesn't give enough information while detracting from the concept of eras, as if it's of lesser importance or focus. Coupled with the planet name, it doesn't give enough of a distinct title and could potentially run into issues.

Your example is perfect. If we did two products, one for the 8th Battle of Hesperus II and the 13th Battle of Hesperus II, would they be called...Historical Turning Points: Hesperus II and Historical Turning Points: Hesperus II 2? More confusing. And expanding the titles to use the actual era designations would not help either, as you'd be simply replacing "Historical" with "Succession Wars."

No other print or PDF line has those designators, no reason for Turning Points to do so. Trust that this wasn't a whim.
How can the Dark Age be historical when it is the current point of the timeline (Not that we have seen anything to advance the timeline/tell the current story in a couple years now....)   :'(
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases II
« Reply #946 on: 25 April 2015, 21:45:46 »
How can the Dark Age be historical when it is the current point of the timeline (Not that we have seen anything to advance the timeline/tell the current story in a couple years now....)   :'(
How much time did we spend in the Jihad era? IMO, a BT book is a good BT book.
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases II
« Reply #947 on: 25 April 2015, 21:50:09 »
How can the Dark Age be historical when it is the current point of the timeline (Not that we have seen anything to advance the timeline/tell the current story in a couple years now....)   :'(

The plan would be to make the DA historical.

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« Reply #948 on: 25 April 2015, 22:08:20 »
How can the Dark Age be historical when it is the current point of the timeline (Not that we have seen anything to advance the timeline/tell the current story in a couple years now....)   :'(

The just released Irian is historical and Dark Age.  It's not a current event. 
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases II
« Reply #949 on: 25 April 2015, 23:44:20 »
The just released Irian is historical and Dark Age.  It's not a current event.

What is current  ;););)
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases II
« Reply #950 on: 25 April 2015, 23:56:38 »
I would say 3145?
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases II
« Reply #951 on: 26 April 2015, 18:32:05 »
The just released Irian is historical and Dark Age.  It's not a current event.
So the Dark Age is over by the current point in the timeline?  I was under the impression that we were still in the Dark Age.  If not, what it the current time period called?
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases II
« Reply #952 on: 26 April 2015, 18:37:02 »
I didn't say the era was over.  I said the particular battle in TP Irian is history.   
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases II
« Reply #953 on: 26 April 2015, 18:57:27 »
I am forced to agree with those who would prefer that the era covered by the Turning Points book be part of the title. Drop "Historical," yes, but replace it with "Fourth Succession War," "Dark Age," etc. Save the basic "Turning Points" for those products that cover multiple eras, which would preferably have titles more imaginative than just the planet name ("Turning Points: The Battles of Hesperus" for example).
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases II
« Reply #954 on: 27 April 2015, 07:56:58 »
I agree with ColBosch.  I prefer that Era name being included in the product's name as well. It just helps keep things straight and more organized at a glance when your looking through your computer.  Only other solution would be to have years or Decades "Turning Points 3130s: Irian". 

Generic names for products is bad when you have a lot of them and good chance you'll have similarly named ones.  The streamline name, takes away the uniqueness of individual product away.
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases II
« Reply #955 on: 27 April 2015, 08:11:44 »
I agree with ColBosch.  I prefer that Era name being included in the product's name as well. It just helps keep things straight and more organized at a glance when your looking through your computer.  Only other solution would be to have years or Decades "Turning Points 3130s: Irian". 

Generic names for products is bad when you have a lot of them and good chance you'll have similarly named ones.  The streamline name, takes away the uniqueness of individual product away.

Just look at the era symbol on the back cover (or the product info page). That's what they're for.

It's more streamlined for product, business, and other reasons to move away from the "era" (and I use the term loosely, because that's not what it really is) in the title. And honestly, for the Turning Points, there were only 'three' eras used - Historical, Dark Age, and Jihad. Those were put in use at a time when we were putting out products across THREE active streams. That's no longer the case, so there's little sense to keep doing that. EVERYTHING from this point out prior to 3145 is "historical" so there's no point in continuing a practice that is now outmoded. No need to keep muddying the waters. The era symbols are enough.

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« Reply #956 on: 27 April 2015, 08:30:27 »
You're saying we're never going to get 'Future Turning Points'...?

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« Reply #957 on: 27 April 2015, 08:35:05 »
I think he's referring to checking out the PDFs in a directory.  If you have all your Turning Points in one directory, having them say DTP, HTP, etc, makes it easier to keep track of.  If you're me and original title purity is important for collection purposes, renaming them is out.  Best recommendation is a different subdirectory for each Turning Point era.

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« Reply #958 on: 27 April 2015, 08:38:55 »
Everything before 3145 is historical.  We're not making books for 3 different streams.

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Re: New and Upcoming Releases II
« Reply #959 on: 27 April 2015, 08:39:36 »
I think he's referring to checking out the PDFs in a directory.  If you have all your Turning Points in one directory, having them say DTP, HTP, etc, makes it easier to keep track of.  If you're me and original title purity is important for collection purposes, renaming them is out.  Best recommendation is a different subdirectory for each Turning Point era.
Personally I am happy that they are just use 'TP' for them, using DTP and HTP just messes up a general directory.
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