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Like for thousands of others, the intro box is one of the primary entrepôts into the BattleTech Universe. You’ve acquired a modest force of eight ‘Mechs (or ten if you went ham and also picked up the beginner box) and played a few games. So what now? How do you decide how to expand your experience in the face of thirty years of options? As it turns out, there are some natural inroads if you know where to look.

Though BattleTech is a game with an articulated and varied thematic periodization, the purpose of this guide is not to conform your interests to any specific era, but to provide scaffolded purchasing options based on what you already have. As you immerse yourself in the fiction of the BattleTech Universe, you will be able to make your own decisions about which era or eras you are most drawn to. Some enjoy employing the tech on the most bleeding edge while others have remained firmly ensconced in the same source material available in 1987. The key is to have fun.

This guide is primarily designed to help you take the first steps as someone unfamiliar with the myriad of options. I assume you, as a new player, are here for the giant, stompy robot action so the majority of my suggestions are geared toward 'Mech vs 'Mech combat. That said, I will provide some outlets for combined arms options. I have intentionally omitted discussion of Alpha Strike, the abstracted, faster-playing BattleTech ruleset and have also so shied away from A Time of War, the RPG system. I will leave promotion of the RPG system to someone who can do it justice with a more convincing sales pitch than I could provide.

Products listed in this document are available at store.catalystgamelabs.com or drivethrurpg.com.

If you are a returning player looking to get caught up on the changes to the game since you’ve been gone, I recommend the excellent primer prepared by mbear found here.

If you have any further questions, comments, insults, etc., feel free to reply to this thread.

CONTENTS
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1. Further Reading
2. Navigating the Timeline
3. The Game Universe
4. Understanding The Product Line
5. Purchasing Guide
6. Resources and Freebies
7. Closing Thoughts

Further Reading
To avoid completely overwhelming with a multipost wall of text, I am in the process of creating more in-depth guides for a number of topics, should they interest you. I recommend reading this initial guide first and then coming back to look at more specific items – I have simply placed them here for faster access.

The Product Catalog (1984-Present)
Core Rulebook Revisions and Version Identification Guide
Getting the Most Out of the MUL
If You Want ___, Check Out ___ Era Guide

More coming soon


NAVIGATING THE TIMELINE
The BattleTech Universe is vast and contains no less than twelve officially articulated eras. The complexity does not inherently increase in a linear fashion from one era to another, however. The Star League was more technologically advanced than the Succession Wars. Primitive gear came back into use during the Jihad alongside bleeding-edge prototypes. The key is to find what you find most enjoyable. Remember that the timeline was not developed in a linear fashion. The Universe was born in media res, grounded in the year 3025, with sourcebooks produced detailing various events through about 3030. 1989’s Twenty Year Update catapulted the timeline forward two decades, with the intervening years only receiving significant treatment after 2003. The Star League Era, originally portrayed as a lost Utopia received significant attention in 2012. I mention this to help explain why certain periods are much more “filled out” with Catalyst products than others. Many of the older sourcebooks books are available via PDF.

For a breakdown of modern (ie post-FASA) sourcebooks by era, check out my thread here. My FASA sourcebook index can be found here.

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Age of War (2005-2570)
Star League (2571-2780)
The Succession Wars
     Early Succession Wars (2781-2900)
     Late Succession Wars - LostTech (2901-3019) <-- Beginner Box and GoAC Box fiction are set in this period
     Late Succession Wars - Renaissance (3020-3049)
Clan Invasion (3050-3061) <-- Clan Invasion Box fiction
FedCom Civil War (3062-3067)
Word of Blake Jihad (3068-3085)
The Dark Age
     Early Republic (3086-3100)
     Late Republic (3101-3130)
     Dark Ages (3131-3150) <-- MechWarrior Dark Age Miniatures Game
ilClan (3151+) <-- The current era

THE GAME UNIVERSE
With the success of the first manned jumpship in 2107, humanity gained the ability to leap from one star system to the next. Over the next four centuries, leap they would to every star they could reach. From this rapid and massive colonization effort sprung the embryos of the current interstellar empires. As these new protostates grew, they eventually grasped for the same resources and, predictably, descended into a brutal period known as the Age of War. During this series of bloody conflicts, the BattleMech emerged with the Terran Hegemony introducing the Mackie in 2439, changing warfare forever. All of humankind would eventually be brought under the banner of the Star League either by treaty or force by 2600.

The unified interstellar empire of man imploded upon itself in 2766 after the usurper Stephan Amaris murdered the ruling family of the Star League, seized control of the Terran Hegemony, and left the Successor Lords of the five client states to bicker amongst themselves for supremacy. In their mutual grab for power, they collectively rebuked the savior from the Amaris tyranny, General Alexandr Kerensky. Stilted, Kerensky chose self-exile and fled the Inner Sphere with the bulk of the Star League’s massive army rather than allow them to be cannibalized in what he believed would ultimately be a futile war. The subsequent First (2786-2821) and Second (2830-2864) Succession Wars unleashed savage destruction that killed untold billions and caused advanced technology to almost completely disappear by the mid-thirtieth century.

The Third Succession War (2866-3025), marked a period of low-intensity warfare, rife with border raids and reprisals but few major operations. In 3028, two of the five interstellar empires, the Federated Suns and Lyran Commonwealth formed an alliance and attempted to swallow another in the Capellan Confederation in numerically-consistent Fourth Succession War (3028-3030). About the same time, the legendary mercenary unit, the Gray Death Legion, uncovered a facility containing schematics for extinct Star League technologies on the planet Helm.

Through the 3030s and 3040s, each Successor State worked independently to bring lost technologies back into production and successfully made several breakthroughs thanks to the Helm Core’s data, with a complete recovery of Star League weapons and equipment by the late 3040s. While such weapon systems had been recovered in anticipation of doing further battle with each other, the Successor States’ ambitions of reuniting the Star League was thwarted in early 3050 with the sudden return of General Kerensky’s children, now reformed as the Clans – a hyper-militaristic society armed to the teeth with more advanced technologies than had ever been seen in the Inner Sphere. The warriors from beyond the periphery had come on a crusade to bring the now-sundered empire of man to heel under their own vision of the Star League.

In the moment of maximum crisis as planet after planet fell to the clan onslaught, ComStar, the mysterious and purportedly neutral steward of the network of Hyperpulse Generators that made interstellar communication possible, unveiled their secret army that had been hidden the shadows for centuries. Anastasius Focht, Precentor Marshal of ComStar’s hidden army, challenged the invading clans to a proxy battle for Terra on the planet of Tukayyid. Miraculously, the untested ComGuard army defeated the combined forces of the Clans and bought the Inner Sphere a fifteen-year reprieve.

But peace would not last that decade in a half. The Inner Sphere banded together once again under the auspices of the Star League and struck back against the Clans. Operations Bulldog and Serpent would see the destruction of Clan Smoke Jaguar – the former assaulting the Clan on their conquered Kuritan worlds, the latter taking the fight directly to the Clans’ homeworlds far beyond the Inner Sphere. But while the reborn SLDF’s combined armies marched to victory, not all was calm throughout the Inner Sphere. The Clans continued their onslaught above the truce line and often turned against each other with Clans Falcon and Wolf nearly bleeding each other to death. Houses Marik and Liao launched an assault on an unsuspecting Federated Commonwealth after the discovery of a horrible secret and caused the collapse of imperial order. The fanatical Word of Blake, inheritors of the techno-religious traditions of ComStar took Terra from the holy order. Worse, while Victor Steiner-Davion fought the Clans in their own space, his sister, Katrina, plotted to seize the throne of the Federated Commonwealth. On his return, the largest of the stellar empires marched quickly toward Civil War.

As you noticed earlier, there is substantially more history to the BattleTech Universe – nearly another century! But for simplicity’s sake I’m going to stop before the start of another major era (also I'm up against the post size limit). The material available for the above-outlined history will provide you with more than enough material to get to started.

If you would like a more in-depth history of the Inner Sphere to the year 3067, check out the Universe Guide. It’s a free PDF that had been included in the various iterations of the box set since around 2002.

UNDERSTANDING THE PRODUCT LINE
CORE RULES
Beginning in 2006 with Total Warfare, Catalyst began releasing the current generation of full rules. Each adds added layers of complexity to your games. Since their inception, these books have gone through varying levels of correction and revision. Below are the most current versions. See the guide linked above (coming soon) that identifies both the changes in contents and appearance.



BattleMech Manual:
Core Rules Option #1
* Rules for 'Mechs only
* Includes a number (but not all) of advanced weapons, equipment, and optional rules from Tactical Operations
* Quirks to customize your 'Mech's performance
* Abstract battlefield support system that makes adding artillery and airstrikes easier than ever.
* More clearly written and organized, taking lessons from the past fifteen years.

Total Warfare:
Core Rules Option #2
* In addition to 'Mechs, rules for most vehicle types including vehicles, aerospace, and infantry
* Total Warfare + Tactical Operations gives you the full spread of equipment and advanced rules (does not include quirks or the abstract support system)

TechManual
* Construction rules for BattleMechs, IndustrialMechs, Protomechs, combat vehicles, support vehicles, infantry, battle armor, and aerospace units.
* Formulas for BattleValue 2.0 if you’re the kind of lunatic that does that sort of thing by hand.

Tactical Operations: Advanced Rules
* Expanded rules for movement, combat, weather, and buildings
* Artillery, minefields, fire, and smoke
* Double-Blind rules
* Other miscellaneous rules

Tactical Operations: Advanced Units & Equipment
* The goto for rules and construction data on all advanced and experimental equipment that becomes more and more prevelant in the Jihad and beyond
* Advanced rules for gameplay and construction of support units like airships, large navel vessels, trains, and mobile structures

Strategic Operations: Advanced Aerospace
[NOTE: This is a revised volume. It no longer contains the BattleForce Rules]
* Rules for aerospace assets operating in space including warships, jumpships, dropships, and fighters
* Construction rules for those units and additionally for other spaceborne craft such as space stations and satellites
* Other miscellaneous rules that involve space operations like orbital insertions and boarding actions

Campaign Operations
* Rules for creating and running a force
* Full rules for formation building as seen in the Clan Box
* Rules for Special Pilot Abilities as featured on pilot cards
* Salvage, customization, and repair rules [moved from StratOps]
* Solar system creation rules
* Rules for running both map- and narrative-based campaigns
* Full Chaos Campaign Ruleset

Interstellar Operations
* A full account of technological advancement throughout the BattleTech timeline
* Rules for units and equipment found in specific eras of BattleTech history such as Land Air Mechs (LAMs), prototype equipment, and technological stepping stones
* Rules for Strategic BattleForce and the Abstract Combat System to run large engagements encompassing dozens or hundreds of units
* Rules for the Inner Sphere at War - a total war simulation involving the conquest of entire nations

OTHER PRODUCT SERIES
The following products will help fill out the broad and varied BattleTech Universe. I have limited my discussion to products actively produced by Catalyst (or at least has received relatively recent support)

Brush Wars
The vast majority of conflicts in the BattleTech universe go largely uncovered beyond a mention or short passage in a sourcebook. The Brush Wars series plans to explore some of those important, but otherwise loosely filled out events.

Spotlight On


Unit histories of some of the smaller, but more colorful outfits in BattleTech history. Each volume provides the unit's history, capabilities, and order of battle over time.

Technical Readouts (TROs)

These represent the bread and butter of BattleTech books going back to the 1980s - a Janes-esque guide series for the BattleTech universe. Over a dozen saw print in various versions under multiple publishers. Since 2017, CGL has released a trio of era-focused, 'Mech-only volumes: Succession Wars, Clan Invasion, and Jihad. Each provides a selection of units from the original volumes. While TROs are not mandatory purchases, they act as a critical glue to the BattleTech Universe, giving some background and substance in an attempt to elevate BattleMechs beyond mere playing pieces. The original TROs are still available in PDF form if you desire a more complete experience - including other unit types.

Recognition Guide: ilClan

Intended as a showcase for the new Kickstarter art, the 22 volume RecGuide series reintroduces a plethora of classic 'Mechs and adds new variants utilizing cutting-edge technology for the battlefields of the 32nd century. 'Mechs outside of the Kickstarter will also receive coverage, including one brand new unit in each guide. Record sheets for all featured units and variants included.

Touring the Stars

PDF-exclusive product highlights an eclectic mix of human-inhabited worlds across BT's history - both active and abandoned. Included in each writeup is a planetary history, ecology, seed ideas for a roleplaying group, and a planetary map for use with large-scale campaigns.

Turning Points

Catalyst released the Chaos Campaign framework a dozen years ago (!!) as a flexible, streamlined, abstracted campaign system for tracking unit missions and resources. The Turning Points series of PDF campaigns allows for players to create random forces or insert their own units in a wide variety of conflicts throughout the BattleTech timeline. I have recommended several below for use with your games.

Maps
CGL has announced they will be producing the first new paper maps in over a decade. Map Pack: Grasslands is now available.

PURCHASING GUIDE
GAME ESSENTIALS
MapPacks

Each contains six double-sided maps for twelve unique options to expand your battlefield size and variety. Larger playing areas significantly impact how the game is played (for the better). 

Two additional Map Packs are being produced as part of the Kickstarter - Tukayyid and Alien Worlds. Both are planned to reach retail, though participating in the Kickstarter will buy you faster access.

EXPANDING YOUR SUCCESSION WARS EXPERIRENCE
The Beginner Box and Game of Armored Combat box sets are placed near the end of the Third Succession War around the year 3025 – the original game setting. This period is marked predominantly by low-scale, small-unit actions as depicted in the average game of BattleTech. In order to seat your own experience within the rich universe, I have provided a number of options that require predominantly only the rules within the GoAC box.

Chaos Campaign: Succession Wars

This free product set in the same era as the GoAC box set initiates players to the Chaos Campaign system used in a number of BattleTech products and provides a framework for basic, generic campaigns as well as suggestions for more interesting mission types and advance rules like minefields.

What you need: GoAC box, Record Sheets: Succession Wars, and (optional) Map Pack: Grasslands

House Arano: The Aurigan Coalition

Based on the source material from HBS's BattleTech video game, House Arano picks up where the game leaves off with the Restoration completed. Found within is a comprehensive description of Aurigan culture, society, and military strength along with profiles of major personalities. The book also contains a number of scenarios that are directly compatible with nothing but the GoAC box. Also included are descriptions and record sheets several new vehicles used in the 31st century periphery. Use of these combat units requires rules found in Total Warfare. Note: This product is currently only available on drivethrurpg.com as both a PDF and Print on Demand softcover.

Technical Readout: Succession Wars

A compilation volume of designs from the Age of War in the 2500s through the Fourth Succession War, ending in 3030. These Mechs utilize a variety of technologies, including advanced equipment common during the Star League before the savage destruction of the early Succession Wars. Again, TROs aren’t required, but they give life and meaning to your combat units.

Record Sheets: Succession Wars

Provides 293 record sheets for the 93 ‘Mechs within TRO: Succession Wars. A large number of them will not require any further rules than what you have with the box set. Others will require the BattleMech Manual or Total Warfare

Succession Wars-Based Turning Points

Using the rules from Chaos Campaign: Succession Wars, player can recreate specific historical battles from the Succession Wars era.

What You Need: GoAC box, appropriate record sheets.
 
If you plan to use vehicles, infantry or other combat units, Total Warfare is required.  Note that these volumes will recommend specific out-of-print maps and unit random acquisition tables (RATs) from other books to broaden your unit choices, or rules from Tactical Operations to simulate local planetary weather and terrain. Orbisonia and Tyrfing reference advanced variants that require rules in Total Warfare or the BattleMech Manual. They can be safely ignored without affecting the experience. Don't fret, all of this is optional and the Chaos Campaign rules will function normally without them.
 
Historical: Brush Wars

NOTE: This volume will be released in the near future under the title Brush Wars: Vol 1 as a print on demand title.
Brush Wars, among one of the best sourcebooks to depict events during the Late Succession Wars era, covers three “minor” but important conflicts: Anton Marik’s Revolt, The Andurien Succession Crisis, and the Ronin War.

Historical: War of 3039

Nearly a decade after pushing the Capellan Confederation to the brink of annihilation, Hanse Davion’s Federated Commonwealth struck its other primary foe: the Draconis Combine. Another unqualified victory for the Davion-Steiner partnership would mean all but total domination of the Inner Sphere. But the mysterious ComStar saw its own interests threatened – without relative parity between the five major states, their position would become precarious. It was then that the Inner Sphere discovered that ComStar was not only the keeper of HPG technology, but a vast reserve of Star League BattleMechs. Many of these found their way into Combine regiments. While only seeing the most minor coverage in the 20 Year Update, the War of 3039 stands as one of  the pivotal events preceding the Clan Invasion.

Era Report: 2750

While the Box Set places you in the early thirty-first century, TRO: Succession Wars reaches back to far before that time during the height of the Star League’s empire. But the golden age of humanity was little more than a gilded prison. This guide gives an overview of the various member states of the League with their massive armies and foreshadows deeper issues that would lead to total collapse and apocalypse.  Also included is a Chaos Campaign framework for designing your own scenarios with era-specific rules.

ON TO THE CLAN INVASION
During the decade of relative détente after the War of 3039, the great powers of the Inner Sphere settled back into the pre-Fourth Succession War doldrums of border raids and reprisals. But a storm was gathering on the coreward horizon. The products highlighted below will help you dip your toe into one of the most consequential periods in BattleTech History.

Clan Invasion Box Set

The fastest way to get you into the 3050s. Included are rules for advanced equipment, a star of OmniMechs, record sheets for upgrades to Inner Sphere 'Mechs from the GoAC box, and Clan Elemental battle armor. The box also provides rules for clan dueling, force building, and how to use the Master Units List (MUL).

Technical Readout: Clan Invasion

Kerensky's descendants returned to the Inner Sphere in 3050 to reunite the Star League of the Great Father by force. This volume provides a sampling of the forces used by both the Clans and the evolving resistance put up by the Great Houses between 3050 and 3062. 

Record Sheets: Clan Invasion

Provides an additional 476 record sheets for the 93 mechs in TRO: Clan Invasion. Almost all require BattleMech Manual, Total Warfare, or the Clan Invasion Box Rules for use in your games.

Era Reports: 3052, 3062

Each era report fleshes out the political and military situation alluded to in the various TROs. Also included are frameworks for designing unique campaigns in the relevant era via the Chaos Campaign referenced above.
ER:3052 and ER: 3062 could just as easily be named “Early Clan Invasion” and “Late Clan Invasion.” ER: 3052 focuses on the myriad of factions on both sides of the Inner Sphere-Clan conflict in the wake of ComStar’s improbable victory at the Battle of Tukayyid. 3062 checks in with the same stakeholders a decade later – all bracing themselves for the seemingly inevitable FedCom Civil War. Each volume gives a brief synopsis of how events have unfolded up to the date on the cover, an overview of the various factions, their leaders, and famous combat commands.

The Battle of Tukayyid

Originally planned as a PDF-only supplement along the lines of Chaos Campaign: Succession Wars, The Battle of Tukayyid has been expanded into a hardcover 200 page sourcebook and campaign book tracing the epic confrontation between the ComGuards and the seven invading Clans. Available Nov 27.

Clan Invasion-Era Turning Points

Like the Succession Wars, the Clan Invasion offers a variety of Turning Points campaign scenarios.

A Brief History Lesson
In my extraordinarily short summary above, I mentioned that after the Amaris Civil War of the 2760s and 70s, Alexandr Kerensky chose self-imposed exile from the Inner Sphere rather than allow his army to be cannibalized and chewed up by the House Lords. The descendants of those exiles returned with a vengeance in 3049 as the Clans. How did the SLDF-in-exile transform into the militant tsunami bent on total conquest?




These three volumes briefly cover the arrival the SLDF in their new home, the brutal civil war and formation of a nascent Clan society, and the rise of hyper-advanced technology surpassing anything produced by the Star League.

Other TROs and Record Sheet Books


As previously mentioned, TRO: Succession Wars and TRO: Clan Invasion are compilation products made up of entries from several other TROs that have their own attendant record sheet volume (or volumes). Each contain additional variants for the units in TRO: Succession Wars or Clan Invasion, as well as a number of units not contained in those volumes. How do you know which to buy? Fear not, as I have compiled a list of what is found in each, including how many repeats are present. See the Google Sheet at

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LOrwtB9SPp1twxqpcTf3iOn2jkRdPGka2DVii-jauoE/edit#gid=989503846

EXPANDING YOUR FORCES
CGL ran a very successful kickstarter to fund a Clan Invasion expansion box set - as part of the stretch goals for this KS are individual Lance (Inner Sphere) and Star (Clan) packs stuffed with classic Clan and IS designs reimagined in the new style found in the GoAC box. The four Wave 1 packs are slated for retail release in February and March.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/450703636/battletech-clan-invasion/description

Iron Wind Metals


Iron Wind Metals produces the vast majority of BattleMechs in pewter. Most require between some and substantial assembly. You’ll need a hobby knife, a metal file, superglue, a pin vice, and a little patience. I started as an absolute beginner around 2009 and have since assembled over a thousand minis with my big clumsy hands so it’s certainly within your grasp. I have started working on a database of miniature difficulty ratings for the models sold by IWM that can be found on this Google Sheet.

Iron Wind Metals Box Set Cross-Promotion Bundle Deals
Until the end of 2020, IWM has inserted a flyer into the Beginner Box with coupon codes for three starter packs of mechs. These models are re-issues of the former beginner sets (which are also metal versions of the 24 mechs contained in the Introductory Box Sets), and some of the less intensive Clan omnis. These models that contain a small number of pieces, which means minimal gluing. The discount means you'll be paying less than $10 per mini, which is a hefty savings and a good way to kickstart your army with ubiquitous designs usable in most eras of play.

Find the bundles here. The prices listed to not reflect the coupon.

Out of Print Box Sets and Alpha Strike Lance Packs
While both of these remain options, they are becoming exceedingly expensive and use sculpts far inferior to those of the Kickstarter.

The Free Option
Finally, if you’re desperate for playing pieces and don’t want to make any serious investments, I have devised several sets of paper standups. They are not ideal, but the price is right.
http://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=53689.0

RESOURCES AND FREEBIES
Chaos Campaign: I have mentioned the Chaos Campaign several times. You can get the barebones version for free here.

www.MasterUnitList.info: An official total resource for virtually every canon BattleTech including faction availability by era.

www.Sarna.net: The BattleTech Wiki filled with thousands of articles big and small on countless aspects of the BattleTech Universe.

www.MegaMek.org: An unofficial computerized version of BattleTech you can play against other people all over the world or against a bot. It implements the vast majority of game rules, including advanced options and a plethora of unofficial rules. Make sure your Java installation is up to date.

MegaMekLab: An editor that allows you to design your own custom units and print record sheets for virtually all known BattleTech units. Find the newest versions of the MegaMek suite of programs here

www.SolarisSkunkWerks.com: Popular 'Mech and vehicle design software recently taken up by a new dev team. As a user for several years before moving on to MML, I can attest to its quality.

Fletch's Sheets - Online sheets with a twist - they allow for a certain level of interactive recordkeeping as you play. Interface is smooth and easy to use.

www.Mordel.net: Need full stats for a ‘Mech? Want a PDF of the record sheet? I don’t use it personally, but it’s a super high-quality effort that deserves a look.

Building, Fire, and Smoke Counters: Cutout counters for adding depth to your games. Link

Xotl’s Random Force Tables: Among the finest, best researched fan-created tables produced, these random tables will help build faction-flavored forces for the first half of the 31st century. Link

CLOSING THOUGHTS
I hope this helps. Suggestions for improving this document are always welcome. There is a lot to explore in this crazy universe. The pool is really deep if you want to dive that far. The key is to take on only what you're comfortable with and have fun.



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Thanks Sartris for taking the time to write this up. As a new player this is extremely helpful.

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Register at http://www.catalystdemos.com/Players/Search.asp
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Excellent introduction document!  O0
I have a few editorial suggestions that I will PM you later when I have more time. It's minor stuff really.
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What no Jihad? Well.. it IS the red headed stepchild no one wants to admit to  }:)

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I assume that FBI crawlerbot have sifted every byte of data on my computer for my 10 years of typing "Jihad" into message boards.  I'll bet there's even a Post-it note on a manilla file somewhere admonishing new hires to ignore the BattleTech crowd while dowsing for home-grown threats.
"Lord Kurita is merciful.  You will be spared the humiliation of a trial.  Instead, you are invited to dine with your sainted ancestors.  You don't follow?  Let me rephrase.  I am about to run you through with my sword.  Now you get the picture?  Good."

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What no Jihad? Well.. it IS the red headed stepchild no one wants to admit to  }:)

His goal was to expand from the Intro Box Set, set in the Succession Wars.  The Jihad does not come directly from the Succession Wars. 
Not only do I admit to the Jihad, I also like redheaded children and stepchildren.  I am one and wouldn't mind being the other.

Nevermind :).  After Sartis's post I see what was meant.
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Master Unit List - List of all canon units, faction availabilities, Alpha Strike unit cards, Battle Values
Combat Manual Lite series - Steiner, Liao, Marik, Calderon, Invading Clans, Comstar. Also Record Sheets for the CM: Kurita and CM: Mercs unique pilots.

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His goal was to expand from the Intro Box Set, set in the Succession Wars.  The Jihad does not come directly from the Succession Wars. 
Not only do I admit to the Jihad, I also like redheaded children and stepchildren.  I am one and wouldn't mind being the other.

Indeed so. I mostly stopped at 3052-53 because of the large-scale influx of units in TRO 3055/58/60. I'm a big fan of the Jihad era, especially the later publications like Jihad Secrets, Final Reckoning, and The Wars of Reaving

Edit: Ha. I see what phoenixstorm was getting at. I had inadvertently left the Jihad out of the eras list at the beginning of the document. Whoops!

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I assume that FBI crawlerbot have sifted every byte of data on my computer for my 10 years of typing "Jihad" into message boards.  I'll bet there's even a Post-it note on a manilla file somewhere admonishing new hires to ignore the BattleTech crowd while dowsing for home-grown threats.

LOL I had never thought about that.
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LOL I had never thought about that.
i really needed that chuckle....
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I assume that FBI crawlerbot have sifted every byte of data on my computer for my 10 years of typing "Jihad" into message boards.  I'll bet there's even a Post-it note on a manilla file somewhere admonishing new hires to ignore the BattleTech crowd while dowsing for home-grown threats.

I admit, working for a federal agency a few years ago and accidentally leaving "Dawn of the Jihad" on my desk one day resulted in a very pointed look from my boss.
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If it's not too late to offer suggestions for the opening post, I might add that it may be worth adding in more data on the Star League-era Historical volumes than is currently listed.

Historical Reunification War and the two Historical: Liberation of Terra books are key to exploring the rise and fall of the Star League respectively, and I'd personally sooner recommend those three ahead of, say, Era Report: 2750.

Also, I was under the impression that FM:SLDF was set in 2765 (to match the various PDF-only Field Reports), rather than 2750.



On a side note, I wonder if it might also be worth mentioning the upcoming First Succession War book, or even the Empires Aflame PDF. The former will hopefully pick up where Historical: Liberation of Terra II left off, and show what the Exiles in Historical: Operation KLONDIKE were leaving behind. While the latter opens a window on an alternate timeline in which the course of events following the collapse of the Star League flowed in a very different direction...
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If it's not too late to offer suggestions for the opening post, I might add that it may be worth adding in more data on the Star League-era Historical volumes than is currently listed.

it's not too late, no. i had originally thought about including LoT I & II but decided against it because i was trying to give new player a basic intro to the Star League era, which ER 2750 provides. Also, truth be told, I hadn't read either of the Liberation of Terra volumes when I originally made this post

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Also, I was under the impression that FM:SLDF was set in 2765 (to match the various PDF-only Field Reports), rather than 2750.

Still part of the star league era, and an overview of Man's greatest assembled army.


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On a side note, I wonder if it might also be worth mentioning the upcoming First Succession War book, or even the Empires Aflame PDF. The former will hopefully pick up where Historical: Liberation of Terra II left off, and show what the Exiles in Historical: Operation KLONDIKE were leaving behind. While the latter opens a window on an alternate timeline in which the course of events following the collapse of the Star League flowed in a very different direction...

I'll let people find their way down their own counter-factual rabbit holes.

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i've done a total teardown of the original post and restructured it to account for the forthcoming Game of Armored Combat Box and the new BMM/TRO: Succession Wars paradigm. Any suggestions or fixes are welcome.

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Nice introduction to BT overall.

Do check for "GAoC" though, you put that instead of "GoAC" at some points, like the Turning Points section. Confused me greatly ;D

While you've shied away from from post-Clan Invasion content, i'd make notes of the eras in general sense at least (eg Jihad: you get to fight with or against cybernetic pseudo-super villains), as they do offer different things from pre-Clan Invasion eras, and also note that they work fine with just BMM ruleset for most part.
Also i'd make note of the Dark Age specifically, highlighting its nature as the era were the story is on-going, and how it is adaptation of MWDA, should there be fans of that who'd like to relieve the time in different way.

For Europeans, i'd add note of that fantasywelt.de sells IWM minis here (lower shipping costs), and Ral Partha Europe is another option.
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I am wondering where the link to your youtube instructional video is . . . did I miss it?
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Sorry, sort of joking . . . you have done a wonderful job, I just wonder about getting someone to do your write up as a promo video.
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the very last thing BattleTech's brand image needs is my ugly mushmouth pushing their product on youtube  :))

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Sorry to be a Party Pooper, but the AS Lance Packs have apparently been OOP for a few years now, and the remaining stocks are about depleted.  I just heard that myself a couple of weeks ago.   :-\


STILL an Excellent way to build up a Force though, if you can lay hands on them!   :thumbsup:
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Sorry to be a Party Pooper, but the AS Lance Packs have apparently been OOP for a few years now, and the remaining stocks are about depleted.  I just heard that myself a couple of weeks ago.

I just checked eBay, and all the Alpha Strike Lance Packs are still available, most for as little as $8. A couple are at retail+shipping. They may be OOP, but there are plenty for sale.
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I just checked eBay, and all the Alpha Strike Lance Packs are still available, most for as little as $8. A couple are at retail+shipping. They may be OOP, but there are plenty for sale.

That’s why I kept them on the list, yeah

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99% of BattleTech products get one “print”.  Ie. everything is “out of print” as soon as it’s printed. The core rule books are the major exception (and intro box set).
That’s far different from “out of stock”, which varies depends on who’s stocking and what they’ve ordered.
For the core rule books, discussions of when/how to reprint start when their main warehouse for their primary distributor runs out. That’s the more “colloquial” definition of “out of print”. A game store asks for a book, the distributor doesn’t have any to send them. Has nothing to do with when it was actually printed.
At least, that’s my limited understanding of BattleTecj printings.
Master Unit List - List of all canon units, faction availabilities, Alpha Strike unit cards, Battle Values
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TROs apparently also get multiple printings, or used to, anyway.
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This is awesome.  Now, if only anyone I knew was at all interested in playing tabletop Battletech over just playing video games.  I got one of the out of print boxed sets and I've only really used it once.

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Well, you can always practice by MegaMek and play people all over the world- lol if they tell you where they are from!  It also exposes you to a lot of play styles and ideas.
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Nice work, compiling all this info, inc the pics for the books/boxed sets!  Cudos! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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