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A Small Laser for Shooting Infanry
« on: 26 August 2020, 01:39:36 »
Was this ever codified anywhere?  ???

Seems to me it was strongly implied a couple of times, before we even had any of the video games to blame for such lapse, but this?

Might this shed some new light to a few relay old designs?
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Re: A Small Laser for Shooting Infanry
« Reply #1 on: 26 August 2020, 02:10:30 »
If I recall what I've heard correctly, the earliest form of infantry units only required a single hit by any mech scale weapon to eliminate. So small lasers actually were a viable anti-infantry weapon once upon a time. Particularly since I think infantry infernos also caused more heat. You could still take out a unit while on fire without being in too much trouble.

This is probably why the early fluff in TRO 3025 suggests the Warhammer's small lasers are for anti-personnel work alongside the machine guns. Having a chance to still pop four units while being soaked in inferno gel would be handy.
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Re: A Small Laser for Shooting Infanry
« Reply #2 on: 26 August 2020, 02:19:01 »
battledroids infantry did indeed die from a single hit - so every weapon was a viable AI weapon  ;D

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Re: A Small Laser for Shooting Infanry
« Reply #3 on: 29 August 2020, 23:48:02 »
The Locust IIC's entry from the original TRO 3055 says that its octet of ER Small Lasers "gives it excellent anti-infantry capability."
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Re: A Small Laser for Shooting Infanry
« Reply #4 on: 29 August 2020, 23:56:28 »
The Locust IIC's entry from the original TRO 3055 says that its octet of ER Small Lasers "gives it excellent anti-infantry capability."

At that point in the rules every point of damage corresponded to a dead trooper, so I'd say they were technically correct at the time. You could easily take out a whole platoon at close range.

But I feel like in that case it's more "excellent general murder capabilities" rather than specifically anti-infantry capabilities.

Ah, the good ole days when rules were simpler and nobody was really sure what you were supposed to do with small pulse lasers....
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Re: A Small Laser for Shooting Infanry
« Reply #5 on: 30 August 2020, 01:12:13 »
The point was that it was an example of where they were definitely referred to as anti-infantry weapons.
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Re: A Small Laser for Shooting Infanry
« Reply #6 on: 30 August 2020, 02:01:35 »
I kind of wish they let the small laser be a decent anti infantry weapon.  Maybe have it be half as effective as what the small pulse laser can do so not as good but for its weight worth while and gives a reason for the statement of it being anti infantry weapon.

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Re: A Small Laser for Shooting Infanry
« Reply #7 on: 30 August 2020, 02:36:38 »
Just letting it do 3 points of damage vs Infantry would have done it.
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Re: A Small Laser for Shooting Infanry
« Reply #8 on: 04 October 2020, 20:51:09 »
Just letting it do 3 points of damage vs Infantry would have done it.

It still does, doesn't it? ... albeit only w/o heavier than standard combat armor and in open terrain, right?
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Re: A Small Laser for Shooting Infanry
« Reply #9 on: 04 October 2020, 21:33:09 »
It still does, doesn't it? ... albeit only w/o heavier than standard combat armor and in open terrain, right?

Two points in open terrain
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Re: A Small Laser for Shooting Infanry
« Reply #10 on: 05 October 2020, 05:33:30 »
that's silly, poor SL
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Re: A Small Laser for Shooting Infanry
« Reply #11 on: 05 October 2020, 23:55:00 »
I feel when they did the rules change on how PBI dmg works, they should have given small lasers (and maybe versions of the base) a -1 or -2 hit bonus against infantry and battle armor targets.  Just to keep the fluff in line.

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Re: A Small Laser for Shooting Infanry
« Reply #12 on: 06 October 2020, 08:32:27 »
On top of the rolled damage for the ones with the AI flag?  I think doing the latter for the standard small laser may be justified, but creates some (more) problems making the MG redundant - especially on BA.
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Re: A Small Laser for Shooting Infanry
« Reply #13 on: 10 October 2020, 00:24:51 »
There would be no reason why machine guns and other guns fluffed to be anti infantry could also not received the to hit bonus against PBI and BA.  This would have no effect on the meat of the universe which is Meks on Meks, or armor.  PBI is meant in the universe to be chewed up by anti-infantry weapons.  And I don't have an issue with these guns being slightly more accurate at shooting similar man sized targets, just cause they are pretending to be Iron Man. 

Now if your gripe is that pulse lasers blow intro tech ballistics of a similar role out of the water you are a little late to the AC5 hate train.