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Col Toda

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Battle Armor Carriers Stock VS Custom
« on: 07 October 2020, 02:52:45 »
Battle Armor started to come out in mass in 3058 . Great stock carriers with 8+ tons of infantry transport did not really come out until 3075 with the Hiro WIGE and many examples in the 3085 TRO . This lead to many expensive custom jobs for the function between 3058 -3072  and cheaper ones 3072 -3085 .

I have been flip flopping  with the decision of keeping great custom jobs in which the spare parts costs 5X as much or stock  in which performance is not as good and the movement  profile and fitting into my existing Tactical doctrine is poor .

What have been your experience ? The more conventional  opposition force lends to not needing optimized performance in battle armor transport for me but that is the gross minority of OP Force players are anything but conventional. 

Now it goes down to do I have the cargo space for extra spare parts or do I have to rely on the Support from the Client of the contract ? If I do not have the space , I use stock of the models they can best supply . If I do have the space  I use custom jobs .

Am I the only one who had this  issue ?

Did everyone just start using the Maxim , and other transports from 3085 TRO ? For me In 3058 , I used a super expensive custom hover built using a Condor Chassis 8 tons of Battle Armor , XL engine  , ferro fibrous armor,  2 med X-Pulse in turret that moved 10/15 . Since It was a custom job built in a Solaris VII garage I had no problem having rarely fired experimental X-Pulse lasers for them .  Worked great but hover not universally useful. At 3072 I went with an 11/17 Karnov w fuel cell or light fusion engine  laser Reflective armor 8 tons infantry compartment and a Chaff pod that tended to be used while unloading the battle armor.  Worked good but otherwise just a transport not AFV of the  way more expensive custom hover. 



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Re: Battle Armor Carriers Stock VS Custom
« Reply #1 on: 07 October 2020, 05:26:06 »
I always expect to see stock-ish heavy APCs with their weapons removed as cheap-ass battle taxis for a pair of BA squads. There should be no problems with paying for custom parts. But yes, as a person who insists on building his combined-arms forces in miniature form, BA transport is definitely a challenge.

But my favourite - admittedly, top-of-the-line - is the Manteuffel, D mod IIRC. 8 ton bay, plus another squad on the outside (it's an omni). The MHI Amphib is a cheaper 8-ton job.

Then there's always the flatbed truck ...
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Re: Battle Armor Carriers Stock VS Custom
« Reply #2 on: 07 October 2020, 15:14:14 »
I keep trying to reinvent the Zoomer, honestly, having gone on a Fuzzi-Wassi kick … :blank:
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Re: Battle Armor Carriers Stock VS Custom
« Reply #3 on: 08 October 2020, 18:44:44 »
I think you need to check the MUL.

The Maxim Infantry variant (12 tons BA) has a date of introduction of 3060, and is in TRO:3058 Upgrades.  As is the Karnov BA Variant (8 tons, MUL date of introduction 3063) and Bandit Omnivehicle H configuration, also 8 tons.

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Re: Battle Armor Carriers Stock VS Custom
« Reply #4 on: 27 October 2020, 05:22:58 »
I came up with a heavy apc which upgraded the ICE engine to a fusion to free up the weight (more expensive) but realistic enough - I envisaged it possibly having an open bay in the back

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Re: Battle Armor Carriers Stock VS Custom
« Reply #5 on: 22 November 2020, 19:38:41 »
Your also forgetting the, well it's been out since what, 3000? And earlier.

I'm talking about the Saladin, C ( argo )! That's the same one the Falcons did, strip out the AC20 and ammo...

Yeah... so it has a later recordsheet, so what. It's still viable in a 2999 setting!

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Re: Battle Armor Carriers Stock VS Custom
« Reply #6 on: 22 November 2020, 19:40:45 »
Pegasus (Cargo) carries 10 tons IIRC. You could modify that to carry a BA squad easily.

I reworked the Turhan myself, it has an 8 ton bay.

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Re: Battle Armor Carriers Stock VS Custom
« Reply #7 on: 22 November 2020, 19:45:51 »
My Saladin C carries, IIRC, like 17 tons each... with more armor same speed.

Should be able to tote 4 Squads easly or 5 PBI Foot.

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Re: Battle Armor Carriers Stock VS Custom
« Reply #8 on: 22 November 2020, 23:13:34 »
The stock Heavy Wheeled APC, upgraded to a FCE, can carry 8 tons of cargo with no other mods.

This also means that it can carry 2 SRM6's with two tons of ammo, I shudder to think what Weirdo could do with something like that.

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Re: Battle Armor Carriers Stock VS Custom
« Reply #9 on: 23 November 2020, 01:05:13 »
Remove the MGs and it can carry 8 tons. Even simpler.

I've always been amazed that there haven't been more up-armed HAPCs. 8 tons is enough to have fun with.
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