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Paradigm challenge: Hermes II Mercury vs Assassin
« on: 03 September 2020, 10:51:49 »
 One of the most fascinating paradigm challenges in Battletech occurs on 40 ton chassis. The Assassin, and Hermes II Mercury both devote the same tonnage to their engines, and weaponry, but the Hermes II Mercury focuses on armor, whilst the Assassin focusses on mobility. The Assassin is possibly the best recon mech in the game, and the Hermes II Mercury is one of the deadliest backstabbers. Both mechs take risks that can easily backfire on them in combat. They can both be strikingly dangerous when used correctly against a prepared foe, nonetheless those who do not prepare. Having used both well, I can tell you that I love them both. I am going to pose a question, which paradigm best supports your typical playstyle, and why?

 I do know that certain environments, such as double blind, will cause different mechs to be favored for different reasons.

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Re: Paradigm challenge: Hermes II Mercury vs Assassin
« Reply #1 on: 04 September 2020, 09:46:23 »
I'm a big fan of the HER-2M "Mercury" as an opportunist and backstabber, and would prefer it over the alternative, but the Assassin is very effective at harassment and taking out poorly guarded support units.  I have no gripes about using either on a large enough map, but the HER has enough armor to dash into the thick of things and weather the incoming fire if the right opportunity presents itself, while the ASN doesn't have that level of survivability.  The ASN, on the other hand, is more capable of getting in and back out of situations, thanks to its jump capability; you just have to be more selective of your opportunities, because one mistake or an opponent's single lucky die roll at bad odds could be fatal.
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Re: Paradigm challenge: Hermes II Mercury vs Assassin
« Reply #2 on: 09 September 2020, 11:25:46 »
Your literally comparing 2 out of 3 of my favorite 40-ton L1 models.

I would take either of them over anything else in that era for the tonnage.   (Except maybe a Vulcan-5T)

As far as which I prefer, its going to be all about mission objectives & opponents.

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Re: Paradigm challenge: Hermes II Mercury vs Assassin
« Reply #3 on: 12 September 2020, 23:57:36 »
One of the most fascinating paradigm challenges in Battletech occurs on 40 ton chassis. The Assassin, and Hermes II Mercury both devote the same tonnage to their engines, and weaponry, but the Hermes II Mercury focuses on armor, whilst the Assassin focuses on mobility. The Assassin is possibly the best recon mech in the game, and the Hermes II Mercury is one of the deadliest backstabbers. reasons.

This is a close one, and it really depends on mission, role needed in lance, etc. But for general purpose "which role do I gravitate towards?" it would be the Hermes II. Reason why: you state that the Hermes focuses on armor (and I would argue weaponry) for backstabbing while the Assassin focuses on mobility. It boils down to the simple fact that the Hermes can act as a decent scout / recon element (especially the Mercury) , but the Assassin is going to have a really hard time playing the backstabber role. Further I can't throw it into a medium "line lance" and have it perform or soak up any firepower. So the Hermes II is significantly more versatile, due to its ability to shine in numerous roles, and perform anti-infantry to a T, something the Assassin also flubs.

As the leader of a pure scout lance or as a scout element for a heavier lance, the Assassin really comes through and against light mechs, or even heavier ones, the speed to keep hitting things with unanswered LRM-5 fire can really start to play a role. Overall both are excellent mechs, but Hermes II is vastly superior for a general role, in my opinion. And I dig the flamer.
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Re: Paradigm challenge: Hermes II Mercury vs Assassin
« Reply #4 on: 13 September 2020, 01:22:36 »
Yeah, the 40 ton guys are really interesting.

Assassin fits my play style the best. I don't have the best luck in BattleTech, but mobility seems to work the best for me. The heavy engine guys that can move and perform physicals always find a place in my force building. I'll spend extra on a better piloting skill.

Going outside of the "paradigm" the entire weight class has some oddballs that just seem to work. In my opinion, the 40-50 ton designs are the bread and butter of the Inner Sphere. Give any of these to the regulars, save the good stuff for the rest.
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