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Vehicle Lance Composition Numbers
« on: 25 July 2021, 16:47:06 »
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So I've been poking into what sort of Combat Vehicles I want to pick up, and I was wondering, what sort of setup do folks use for their vehicle lances?  I'm of the impression that vehicles are always at least paired, but do folks like to use vehicle lances of all one model of tank/VTOL or is mixing more common?  When collecting do you just get one or two of a vehicle or do you get an entire lance worth?  Does it depend based on the vehicle or vehicle type as well?
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Re: Vehicle Lance Composition Numbers
« Reply #1 on: 25 July 2021, 16:57:56 »
For me its a balance of flavor and how big I want the game to be. A lot of IWM vehicles come in packs of two, so that tends to make things a little easier, but I don't generally bother with things like Clan vehicle points that are two vehicles with 10 vehicles to a Star, for example. I do like to mix and match though so I'll generally have 2 pairs of different units and, if I'm playing Clan, a single support or "command" vehicle. In the end, its up to you and what you think is cool and how close to the lore you want to play it.

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Re: Vehicle Lance Composition Numbers
« Reply #2 on: 25 July 2021, 19:03:35 »
I tend to purchase and deploy tanks at the platoon (lance) level -- four of a kind.  Now I'm not above mixing variants within a platoon, but I do like to keep the platoon itself chassis-pure.

For example, my favorite big boy is the Ontos.  In SW-era gameplay, I'll run three of the standard medium laser-vomit tanks with overwatch provided by an LRM variant.
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Re: Vehicle Lance Composition Numbers
« Reply #3 on: 25 July 2021, 19:19:57 »
Oh, slick, I hadn't thought of variants of the same vehicle within a lance like that. Most of them habe enough variations to form a decently flexible unit that way.
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Re: Vehicle Lance Composition Numbers
« Reply #4 on: 25 July 2021, 20:30:40 »
Depends on the size of the game. I’m if only doing a few I’ll have much more variety

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Re: Vehicle Lance Composition Numbers
« Reply #5 on: 26 July 2021, 00:49:33 »
Platoons don't have to be pure, but, it isn't a bad thing if they are.

The mini's often come in 2's so its pretty convenient to pick up 2 "similar" vehicles & run 2 pairs that support each other.

My own mini's collection lead me to often pair Maxims/Drillsons together.
Ditto pairs of LRM Carriers, Ontos, &/or Alacorns for my heavy fire support platoons.
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Re: Vehicle Lance Composition Numbers
« Reply #6 on: 26 July 2021, 02:01:48 »
FWIW the Battle Lance from AS/CO requires that vees be deployed in matched pairs and I feel like that's the most common type. I tend to keep vees together two to a hex anyway so this supports my playstyle

I tend to go homogenous platoons beyond the company level because of laziness more than anything else

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« Reply #7 on: 26 July 2021, 02:23:28 »
I usually do full platoons of one base chassis, but will mix variants.  So for example, three Von Luckner VLNK-100s, and one 65N. Another good use is three standard Sturmfeurs plus one SRM variant as bodyguard.

For Alpha Strike, vehicles have to come in pairs, which I interpret as applyin gto the chassis, not the variant.
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« Reply #8 on: 26 July 2021, 18:52:25 »
My Glenmora Planetary Militia (linked in my sig block) bases most of their force on Goblins of various types mixed into lances (some customs, I admit).

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« Reply #9 on: 26 July 2021, 23:19:13 »
The examples are definitely helpful, thanks!

I feel like with Vehicles, notably more than with mechs, keeping the same speed profile is very important, so same chasis within a Platoon using mixed variants is sensible.  I think for company organizations I'll do mostly homologous platoons, but in games I'll probably stick to pairs just for more variety 
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Re: Vehicle Lance Composition Numbers
« Reply #10 on: 27 July 2021, 00:43:56 »
Hole-Punching/Critting Pairs
Saladin and Harasser (or Pegasus SRM, Drillson SRM, etc.)
Hetzer and Hetzer SRM
Shreck and Pike
Demolisher and SRM Carrier

Fire Support and Bodyguard
Ontos LRM x3 (or Partisan LRM x3) and Ontos x1 (or Rommel x1 or Von Luckner x1)
Hetzer LRM x3 and Hetzer x1

Also think of spotters (Ferret, Savannah Master, Skulker, etc.) for calling in massed indirect LRM or artillery fire
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Re: Vehicle Lance Composition Numbers
« Reply #11 on: 27 July 2021, 01:25:23 »
Tend to be in pairs, or at least matching movement rates for the entire lance.

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Re: Vehicle Lance Composition Numbers
« Reply #12 on: 27 July 2021, 01:33:42 »
I usually prefer a maneuver element. Two lances of 4/6 tracked tanks plus a hover lance of 8/12, for example. Though generally you don't want a lance moving slower than the other two.

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« Reply #13 on: 27 July 2021, 02:55:08 »
Okay, I'm weird, and build combined-arms battalions in mini form. I like to match the infantry company to the 'Mech company, either support or complementary.

Support - got a company of heavy/assault 'Mechs for MacIntyre House Guards. Their vees are LRM carriers, Behemoths, and Pegasi for token scouting.
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Re: Vehicle Lance Composition Numbers
« Reply #14 on: 27 July 2021, 16:46:42 »
Okay, I'm weird, and build combined-arms battalions in mini form. I like to match the infantry company to the 'Mech company, either support or complementary.

Your combined-arms battalions are pretty damn awesome.
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« Reply #15 on: 27 July 2021, 19:42:11 »
Combined arms FTW!  :thumbsup:

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Re: Vehicle Lance Composition Numbers
« Reply #16 on: 29 July 2021, 22:08:01 »
I tend to purchase and deploy tanks at the platoon (lance) level -- four of a kind.  Now I'm not above mixing variants within a platoon, but I do like to keep the platoon itself chassis-pure.

For example, my favorite big boy is the Ontos.  In SW-era gameplay, I'll run three of the standard medium laser-vomit tanks with overwatch provided by an LRM variant.

I tend to do the opposite myself. ( In the newer variants, 3 MML and a single LGR. )

But I have been known to run triple Partisan LRM and a single Demolisher in support. ( And even, two Goblin, an LRM Goblin and two Bulldog for my 25th Marik Militia. )

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Re: Vehicle Lance Composition Numbers
« Reply #17 on: 30 July 2021, 16:10:34 »
This has definitely made me excited for combined arms, yeah.  I think I'll go with primarily paired vehicles as I build up and can fill out to full lances of particular ones that warrant it more (particularly trooper tanks and some VTOLs). 
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« Reply #18 on: 01 August 2021, 17:21:36 »
I tend to do the opposite myself. ( In the newer variants, 3 MML and a single LGR. )

But I have been known to run triple Partisan LRM and a single Demolisher in support. ( And even, two Goblin, an LRM Goblin and two Bulldog for my 25th Marik Militia. )

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Well it depends on the platoons role.  If I want a sniper platoon, I'll take three LGR Ontos and one 3055 model to provide close protection for example.
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