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Any word on Clan boxset?
« on: 06 November 2011, 08:24:25 »
Any rumors going round about the Clan box set?
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Re: Any word on Clan boxset?
« Reply #1 on: 06 November 2011, 08:38:56 »
Some, but nothing confirmed.
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Re: Any word on Clan boxset?
« Reply #2 on: 06 November 2011, 09:13:42 »
Based on what Randall told us about the Intro Box getting put out again and those struggles I am going to guess it will be a little while longer for the clan box.

But I will wait to buy two of them.


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Re: Any word on Clan boxset?
« Reply #3 on: 06 November 2011, 10:35:53 »
BattleChat, 19.II.2011

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<Wolf_Lancer_4>: any news about the Clan Box Set?  will we perhaps see its release this year?

<Habeas2>: Wolf_Lancer_4 - Not this year


BattleChat, 24.IV. 2011, Part I.

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DEZOAT:  The Clan box set. How many minis will be in it.

Habeas2: DEZOAT - Presently, the plan is for 25 minis.


BattleChat, 24.IV.2011 - Part II.

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<ScottSR>: iirc, this morning did you say that there would be 25 mech minis in the clan box set? or was it 21, or someother number?

<Habeas2>: ScottSR - The plan is for there to be 25 figures, in keeping with the Base-5 Clan organizational scheme.

<Vigilante>: Will the Clan Box Set minis be of the same quality as the current box set minis or more like the high quality ones?

<Habeas2>: Vigilante - That really depends on a number of factors I cannot get into right now.


BattleChat, 29.IV.2011

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megatrons2nd: Is the rumored clan box real?

Habeas2: Megatrons2nd - "Real" in what way? DOes it exist now? No. Will it? Yeah.

megatrons2nd: the will it part.  Is it planned for a close release with wars of reaving?

Habeas2: Megatrons2nd - No. They are not planned for close release.

megatrons2nd: darn


BattleChat, 26.VI.2011

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<One-EyedJack>: Is the Clan box set still being worked on or was it scrapped in favor of the 25 th set?

<Habeas2>: One-EyedJack - It is still being worked on.


I remember that the nice picture of charging Mad Cats in orange tiger-stripe camo was originally destined for the Clan Box Set. I don't know where I read it, maybe on the pre-crash forum.

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Re: Any word on Clan boxset?
« Reply #4 on: 06 November 2011, 10:50:56 »
I remember that the nice picture of charging Mad Cats in orange tiger-stripe camo was originally destined for the Clan Box Set. I don't know where I read it, maybe on the pre-crash forum.

Wasn't it in "Battletech: 25 Years of Art and Fiction"?

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Re: Any word on Clan boxset?
« Reply #5 on: 06 November 2011, 10:55:01 »
Wasn't it in "The Art of Battletech"?

Yeah, you are right: "Forthcoming Clan Expansion Set"

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Re: Any word on Clan boxset?
« Reply #6 on: 06 November 2011, 16:01:53 »
It's going to have 25 figures now?  Last I'd heard, it was going to include 20- the original 3050 omnis minus the Dasher plus 5 Elemental points.  Does anyone know (and can post without violating an NDA) what the others are?
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Re: Any word on Clan boxset?
« Reply #7 on: 06 November 2011, 16:03:10 »
Likely the original 20 plus the 5 elementals.
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Re: Any word on Clan boxset?
« Reply #8 on: 06 November 2011, 16:24:22 »
Likely the original 20 plus the 5 elementals.

But there were only 16 originals.

I suppose the TR3055 Omnis could be included... or a grab-bag of second-line machines...

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Re: Any word on Clan boxset?
« Reply #9 on: 06 November 2011, 16:32:19 »
But there were only 16 originals.

I suppose the TR3055 Omnis could be included... or a grab-bag of second-line machines...

Protomechs maybe?


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« Reply #10 on: 06 November 2011, 17:10:33 »
But there were only 16 originals.

I suppose the TR3055 Omnis could be included... or a grab-bag of second-line machines...

I had similar idea. But considering that even second-line 'Mechs from TRO 3055 are on the Unseen list too, it may be better to play it safe.

1. Koshi
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8. Vulture
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10. Thor
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12. Man O' War
13. Masakari
14. Gladiator
15. Daishi

If we want to show new players advantages of Clan engineering, those additional 'Mechs should be OmniMechs too, possibly more or less common in the Inner Sphere.
Maybe some of them could be selected from this group? What do you think?
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Protomechs maybe?

Personally I don't think so. Clan Box is Expansion, probably destined for new players who bought Intro Box previously. ProtoMechs would need additional rules, different tactics. They are more common in later eras too.

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Re: Any word on Clan boxset?
« Reply #11 on: 06 November 2011, 17:45:42 »
It was a shot in the dark.

The 3055/58 omni's are much more likely, and I like that idea better.



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Re: Any word on Clan boxset?
« Reply #12 on: 06 November 2011, 18:20:41 »
But there were only 16 originals.

I suppose the TR3055 Omnis could be included... or a grab-bag of second-line machines...

Doubles! :D
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Re: Any word on Clan boxset?
« Reply #13 on: 06 November 2011, 20:36:30 »
I'll be happy with the Original 3050 Omnis
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Re: Any word on Clan boxset?
« Reply #14 on: 06 November 2011, 21:26:02 »
Do we know if they are all going to be the high quality plastic like the Thor & Loki?

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Re: Any word on Clan boxset?
« Reply #15 on: 06 November 2011, 23:10:19 »
Do we know if they are all going to be the high quality plastic like the Thor & Loki?

I don't think they know that yet.

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Re: Any word on Clan boxset?
« Reply #16 on: 06 November 2011, 23:22:56 »
I hope something come of it, maybe for Gencon next year, to win another Gencon award or two!
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Re: Any word on Clan boxset?
« Reply #17 on: 06 November 2011, 23:25:37 »
Do we know if they are all going to be the high quality plastic like the Thor & Loki?
That was the plan, though that may be the reason for all the delays.
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Re: Any word on Clan boxset?
« Reply #18 on: 07 November 2011, 00:14:01 »
That was the plan, though that may be the reason for all the delays.

I've been on the fence about whether I'd get the set or not, but if they manage to put all of them at that quality level, I'm definitely getting at least one box.
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Re: Any word on Clan boxset?
« Reply #19 on: 07 November 2011, 00:35:28 »
That was the plan, though that may be the reason for all the delays.

When was that ever said?
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Re: Any word on Clan boxset?
« Reply #20 on: 07 November 2011, 00:39:16 »
Welp my fellow Battletech junkies I know that when this is released I will get it.

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Re: Any word on Clan boxset?
« Reply #21 on: 07 November 2011, 00:41:18 »
Do we know if they are all going to be the high quality plastic like the Thor & Loki?

Battleshop has 2 high-quality Lokis for 18 USD. Considering that the Clan Box should contain at least 20 'Mechs, multiply it by ten. Add one or two maps and some printed booklet and you get to 200 USD. That definitely too much.

So if the Clan Box set is really finished, it must contain some cheaper miniatures (made from more parts perhaps); you guessed it - something similar to Intro Box Set ... Of course it will be even more expensive because of new molds, printer files and such things. For Intro Box Set it was possible to re-use existing materials - for Clan Box Set, not so much.

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Re: Any word on Clan boxset?
« Reply #22 on: 07 November 2011, 00:44:35 »
I had similar idea. But considering that even second-line 'Mechs from TRO 3055 are on the Unseen list too, it may be better to play it safe.

The Omnimechs from 3055 aren't unseen, and the second lines are now reseen.

I would think that the Shadow Cat, Vapor Eagle & Black Python would be good candidates...
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Re: Any word on Clan boxset?
« Reply #23 on: 07 November 2011, 00:57:37 »
Battleshop has 2 high-quality Lokis for 18 USD. Considering that the Clan Box should contain at least 20 'Mechs, multiply it by ten. Add one or two maps and some printed booklet and you get to 200 USD. That definitely too much.

So if the Clan Box set is really finished, it must contain some cheaper miniatures (made from more parts perhaps); you guessed it - something similar to Intro Box Set ... Of course it will be even more expensive because of new molds, printer files and such things. For Intro Box Set it was possible to re-use existing materials - for Clan Box Set, not so much.

Well if they do it right, its going to be full of multiples, one mold for both the summoner and the hellbringer legs, the same with the timber wolf and the mad dogs. Several Arms and weapon pods are also interchangeable. This should bring down costs considerably if they tool several mechs on a sprue to each mold.

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Re: Any word on Clan boxset?
« Reply #24 on: 07 November 2011, 00:58:53 »
The Omnimechs from 3055 aren't unseen, and the second lines are now reseen.

There was an update about 2 months ago- everything that had ever been Unseen at any point was back to being unseen now.
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Re: Any word on Clan boxset?
« Reply #25 on: 07 November 2011, 01:41:50 »
Well if they do it right, its going to be full of multiples, one mold for both the summoner and the hellbringer legs, the same with the timber wolf and the mad dogs. Several Arms and weapon pods are also interchangeable. This should bring down costs considerably if they tool several mechs on a sprue to each mold.

I count with it, but on the other hand, you want to make those 'Mechs in higher quality, so it means better molds - higher costs.

The Omnimechs from 3055 aren't unseen, and the second lines are now reseen.

I would think that the Shadow Cat, Vapor Eagle & Black Python would be good candidates...

I went by the list from the Rule section above. If I would made Clan Box Set, I wouldn't allowed not a slightest risk of court case. The only way to be totally sure is to choose 'Mechs for what CGL owns and always have owned all art (without any doubt). Can you imagine the disaster if the court decrees "preliminary decision" when the Clan Box is from 2/3 already finished in works in multiple factories...

Good point with that Shadow Cat.

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« Reply #26 on: 07 November 2011, 01:56:05 »
There was an update about 2 months ago- everything that had ever been Unseen at any point was back to being unseen now.

Yes, I'm well aware.  ;)

The 3055's that became unseen again didn't include the 3055 Omnimechs (Pouncer, Linebacker, Phantom etc) that weren't ever part of the unseen, (AFAIK) and so are available.

The Unseen 3055s are back to unseen, but we now have REseen art & minis for all of them, so that's what they could use.

I went by the list from the Rule section above. If I would made Clan Box Set, I wouldn't allowed not a slightest risk of court case. The only way to be totally sure is to choose 'Mechs for what CGL owns and always have owned all art (without any doubt).

I meant that the reseen 3055s (Vapor Eagle, Black python, Glass Spider) would be good candidates to be in the box set.  :-\

The Reseen art is all CGL, so no risk there. I really do like those original 3055 versions, but they're unavailable, so c'est la vie.  :(
No reason not to include those 3055 mechs with the reseen versions in the box set.  :-\
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Re: Any word on Clan boxset?
« Reply #27 on: 07 November 2011, 07:13:55 »
Anybody want to speculate on what era the Clan box will be set? I'm assuming 3050 is a fair bet, but the map in the Intro Set is 3067, so it just made me wonder....
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Re: Any word on Clan boxset?
« Reply #28 on: 07 November 2011, 07:48:18 »
Whenever it comes out it will very likely be good.
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Re: Any word on Clan boxset?
« Reply #29 on: 07 November 2011, 08:47:24 »
Anybody want to speculate on what era the Clan box will be set? I'm assuming 3050 is a fair bet, but the map in the Intro Set is 3067, so it just made me wonder....

Almost definitely 3050, I'd say.  At least with all of the 3050 Omnis.

 

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