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Vehicle of the Week: LTV-4 Hover Tank
« on: 30 April 2012, 16:19:10 »
Vehicle of the Week: LTV-4 Hover Tank

Another one of those dreaded 'historical' articles, today we're going to take a look at the LTV-4 Hover Tank, a vehicle that deserves in BattleTech to be remembered alongside names like Dreadnought, Mark I, and Mackie. Not because it represented a departure from existing design paradigms the way they did but because of what its armor accomplished: Bringing battlefield-standard armor plate, that combination of compactness, light weight, durability, and just a pinch of handwavium that keeps BattleMechs and combat vehicles protected from hostile fire.  Designed by Lucas Technologies, the LTV-4 was a followup to their earlier LTV-2, a large laser-armed unit that sold modestly but was unable to capture the interest of the Hegemony Armed Forces.  While working on expanding its operations, Lucas Technologies acquired a few smaller firms, including one that had developed a new manufacturing process for EM and heat shielding for consumer electronics... a process that Harrison Lucas, CEO and President of Lucas Technologies, recognized as the key to a new generation of lighter armor that was every bit as tough as the Mackie's.  Beyond just the revolutionary armor, the LTV-4 also introduced a few other improved manufacturing techniques for various subsystems according to XTRO: Primitives Volume 2, and it catapulted Harrison Lucas into being one of the richest men in the Hegemony in just two years and led to a merger of Lucas Technologies with General Mechanics, a precursor firm to one of the manufacturing juggernauts of the modern Federated Suns.  The LTV-4 itself became so common that it was just called the “Hover Tank”... and that's the rest of the story of one of the oldest units in BattleTech, dating back to old FASA sheets but, until now, never picked up by the modern game.

That's a pity, since the LTV-4 actually a decent unit if a bit on the slow side for a hover.  At 50 tons, this is the largest possivle hover combat vehicle, and a 115-rated ICE gives it a 7/11 speed that, while not really great, is still enough to give you a fair bit of zip at over 110 kph, especially in an era where the LB-X is a glimmer in the eye of an engineer that won't be born for decades.  5.5 tons isn't a lot of armor by modern standards but at the time, what Lucas Technologies was able to achieve with it would have been eye-opening, arranging it 24/16/16/16.  Not really all that bad given the threat regime the Hover Tank was designed in.  What really weighs the design down is the turret-mounted PPC, requiring a power amplifier and ten tons of heat sinks, along with an SRM 4 also mounted in the turret fed by a single ton of ammunition.

The general idea is to behave sort of like a zippy Gladiator, holding the range open and using your PPC fire to weaken the enemy's armor, then charging in to exploit any holes that have been opened.  I suggest using these tanks in at least pairs, exploiting massed fire until you're ready to commit to a close-in attack pass.  And if you've got the room or the drivers, use your flanking speed get your targeting modifier as high as you can.  Your armor may be revolutionary but it's not that thick.

Although my usual suggestions for countering faster units aren't around for the Hover Tank's most notable eras, if they're available, LB-Xs and pulse lasers are going to be a serious menace.  So are SRMs once it closes to engage with them.  AC/2s, which have the range to let you potentially counter the PPC's relatively long range for the era and control the engagement, may be a good way to disable an LTV-4 at a distance before closing in for a kill or at least peppering them as they harass you.  A few vehicles to consider for the role are the AC/2 carrier or its primitive forebear, the Augustus A3, or (in the Succession Wars) the Pike.  JagerMechs are also decent choices.

References: This version of the Hover Tank has yet to enter the MUL and no miniature is available at this time from Iron Wind Metals.
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Re: Vehicle of the Week: LTV-4 Hover Tank
« Reply #1 on: 30 April 2012, 16:39:58 »
I think I would actually use Strike Falcons to stop a force of LVTs. Step 1 would be to deploy my infantry in good area denial locations. The crit-seeking nature of all infantry means that hovercraft don't want to go near any of them. Since hovers do not like most of the cover infantry usually use, I'd have to deploy them in the open, hoping they can dig in before they take too much damage. With the infantry blocking off certain routes and hopefully limiting the LVTs' maneuver options, the VTOLs can use their speed to catch the hovers, getting under the PPC's minimum range and using SRMs to maximum effect. The return SRM fire means this will indeed be a bloody fight, but I think the VTOLs have a pretty decent chance of stopping a hovercraft strike on my support units or rear areas.
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Re: Vehicle of the Week: LTV-4 Hover Tank
« Reply #2 on: 30 April 2012, 16:50:31 »
It's not just return SRM fire.  Strike Falcons are slow enough that the LTVs can keep the range open better than they could against, say, a Cavalry.  And with their light armor, those PPCs are going to hurt.  I think you're right that it could work and you're just as right that it's going to be bloody.

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Re: Vehicle of the Week: LTV-4 Hover Tank
« Reply #3 on: 30 April 2012, 16:58:44 »
Yeah, Cavalries would murder these things outright.

As for keeping the range open, ideally my strategy would be to trap the hovers between the infantry and the VTOLs. Easy to screw up, I'll admit, but if you've got hostile infantry on one flank, withdrawing in that direction is certainly going to be a bad idea, and the VTOLs can use that to their advantage. Even better would be if the infantry can be edployed early enough to hide themselves and set up an ambush. VTOLs engage and harass the hovers, who withdraw to keep the range open. VTOLs steer the hovers towards the infantry, who will hopefully be able to disable multiple LVTs when they spring the trap.
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Re: Vehicle of the Week: LTV-4 Hover Tank
« Reply #4 on: 30 April 2012, 17:16:49 »
Thanks so much for the article, Moonsword!

The LTV-4 actually has an even older heritage to which the ancient RS: Volume 5 was just the epilogue. The game history goes back to the GDL Scenario book, which gives hugely basic stats for it as the "HVT" and then suggests the player reconstruct it via CityTech, whose 1st ed. must've been a brand-new release at the time.

GDL, p. 25: 6 mvm/turn, 1 PPC, 1 SRM/25 [sic] shots, immobile after one hit (barring MGs, but including physicals), destroyed after the second. Special rule: +3 to hit all vees if they are moving.

But this indeed goes back to the first-ever BT novel, Decision at Thunder Rift. In fact, the scenario is called just that, too!

I don't have a proper copy of that lying around, though I remember the glossary actually called the acronym "HVT" Hover Transport rather than Hover Tank. It did specifiy 2 HVTs on Grayson's side in the final battle for Thunder Rift, which is what you get in the scenario, too.

It's safe to assume that without the HVT/LTV-4 and other milita support, the GDL would have never survived to form as a proper unit in the first place!
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Re: Vehicle of the Week: LTV-4 Hover Tank
« Reply #5 on: 30 April 2012, 20:03:02 »
I always wanted to see better write ups for the various support vehicles in the Gray Death Legion series early books. Hmm...maybe they should be built as support vehicles instead of combat vehicles, you could get a better feel for what was described, and that planets tech base would probably support that level of capability better really.

Although for as often as the GDL pushed their anti-Battlemech infantry as a major facet of their operations, their use of vehicles was somewhat limited. Funny considering their founder took out like three mechs in a hover truck with a Ma Duce!

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Re: Vehicle of the Week: LTV-4 Hover Tank
« Reply #6 on: 30 April 2012, 21:39:14 »
I have to say that I love the idea of this thing.  In its time, could anything match that speed and unlimited firepower?  Except for terrain issues, it looks like it can eat any 'Mech smaller than a Panther...almost as fast as a Locust, far better weapons and armor...

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Re: Vehicle of the Week: LTV-4 Hover Tank
« Reply #7 on: 30 April 2012, 21:40:38 »
Great article Moonsword, I always like this little tank.  I hope it sticks around for while longer, cheap, effective...new generation of it LTV would be cool...
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Re: Vehicle of the Week: LTV-4 Hover Tank
« Reply #8 on: 03 May 2012, 12:00:44 »
A cool article for a cool tank.

I enjopyed the entry in Primitives (II), and I also enjoyed this article. A decent hovertank, and perfectly suitable for militia units even in modern times. 
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« Reply #9 on: 03 May 2012, 12:48:34 »
I would call it a hover Myrmidon.

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« Reply #10 on: 03 May 2012, 13:03:28 »
Nah, a hover Myrmidon would have a SFE. More a hover Bulldog.  ;)
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« Reply #11 on: 03 May 2012, 16:11:43 »
I don't care about the SFE half as much as I do the fact that a hover Myrmidon would have somewhat more armor.  Hover Bulldog is just about right.

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Re: Vehicle of the Week: LTV-4 Hover Tank
« Reply #12 on: 04 May 2012, 13:11:33 »
The LTV-4 actually has an even older heritage to which the ancient RS: Volume 5 was just the epilogue. The game history goes back to the GDL Scenario book, which gives hugely basic stats for it as the "HVT" and then suggests the player reconstruct it via CityTech, whose 1st ed. must've been a brand-new release at the time.
Decision at Thunder Rift, GLOSSARY:
HVT: Hovercraft Transports are a military hovercraft used to carry personnel or cargo.
HVWC: The Hovercraft Weapons Carrier is a military hovercraft, smaller than a transport, mounting a missile battery, PPC, or other heavy weapon.

I've read novel at least twice, and only weapons mentioned for HVWC are missiles and autocannons. Novel also has wheeled weapons carriers armed with light PPC... Excuse me! LIGHT PPC!!?
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Re: Vehicle of the Week: LTV-4 Hover Tank
« Reply #13 on: 04 May 2012, 13:38:16 »
That probably just means it had a Support PPC mounted on the back.

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« Reply #14 on: 05 May 2012, 13:59:56 »
Decision at Thunder Rift, GLOSSARY:
HVT: Hovercraft Transports are a military hovercraft used to carry personnel or cargo.

Yup, the novel and the scenario disagree on the meaning of the acronym "HVT" :D
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Re: Vehicle of the Week: LTV-4 Hover Tank
« Reply #15 on: 05 May 2012, 19:33:30 »
That probably just means it had a Support PPC mounted on the back.
Correct, that is, as I understand it, the agreed upon explanation for what is happening.
Matti, this was written BEFORE the BG introduced the LPPC as we now it today, so a support or man-pack PPC could be quite easily called a LPPC, both in-universe and IRL, some early TRO's (I think it was TRO's) have 'Mechs with "Heavy Lasers" which a clearly LL's,